Serge Aurier

[glospur]

Or maybe fucking .

If he'd have gone to Manchester 'let's-all-suck-their-cocks-off' United, this would all hastily be brushed aside.

Bet your life on it.

But that doesn't mean we should just brush it aside. I'd like to think that we have more integrity than that lot.

 

[BoringOldFan]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...rier-a-fine-footballer-a-troubling-background

do we think:
a) Spurs will publicly address the past?
b) Spurs should publicly address the past?
c) it's that big a deal?

I am sure the club will have looked into it and made a decision on whether he can be given any help, but this has been the issue all week with various fan groups and blogs highlighting it. Players have done far worse and been given more chances..

The article says:

At a time when football believes itself to be entering into a period of heightened awareness, the perception of a seemingly unrepentant player being allowed to continue their career without major repercussions is particularly damaging.

and

Perhaps Tottenham have had Aurier’s remorse demonstrated to them. Maybe. But that’s still something which must be communicated properly, because - as yet - the toxicity of the Blanc episode hasn’t been contained. At least in public, there has been no real show of contrition, comprehension or regret.

So.. will the club say anything?

I think you should add d) What about the fans? I was just reading the first couple of pages of this thread and I doubt there would be more animosity from some than if we'd signed *.....insert controversial hate figure here....*

 

[thinktank]

But that doesn't mean we should just brush it aside. I'd like to think that we have more integrity than that lot.

Talking about the media.

Poch will address it once, with his usual eloquence and class, and will then refer any further/future questions on it to that initial address.

 

[Danners9]

I think you should add d) What about the fans? I was just reading the first couple of pages of this thread and I doubt there would be more animosity from some than if we'd signed *.....insert controversial hate figure here....*

I've already seen that some fans are upset about it, others not so bothered, and others focusing on the football only (similar to how some would say 'ah but he was a superb musician...' when finding out about something horrific from the past). I've read the blogs where they say his comments/attitude shouldn't be tolerated and the ensuing Twitter arguments.. so now it looks like it will happen, what should the club do about it. He will continue to divide opinion, so he/the club might need to find a way to get them back on side.

 

[eddiev14]

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...rier-a-fine-footballer-a-troubling-background

do we think:
a) Spurs will publicly address the past?
b) Spurs should publicly address the past?
c) it's that big a deal?

I am sure the club will have looked into it and made a decision on whether he can be given any help, but this has been the issue all week with various fan groups and blogs highlighting it. Players have done far worse and been given more chances..

The article says:

At a time when football believes itself to be entering into a period of heightened awareness, the perception of a seemingly unrepentant player being allowed to continue their career without major repercussions is particularly damaging.

and

Perhaps Tottenham have had Aurier’s remorse demonstrated to them. Maybe. But that’s still something which must be communicated properly, because - as yet - the toxicity of the Blanc episode hasn’t been contained. At least in public, there has been no real show of contrition, comprehension or regret.

So.. will the club say anything?

I enjoy some of this bloke's articles but, honestly, some of the hand-wringing over Aurier has been way, way over the top. Initially from the Americans at SB Nation, followed by a few others jumping on the bandwagon.

A kid - probably not a very well educated kid - did something dumb.

He issued an apology. Yet because he didn't specifically say precisely he was sorry for, these people want our club to dig it up again and publically drag him through some PR exercise?

It's a nonsense.

I would agree that there is a sensible discussion to be had here about academies doing more to educate kids who are - often due to socio-economic reasons - not very bright and in a bit of a macho bubble from a young age. But that's an issue for football as a whole, not just this one player.

I could offer a very cynical observation as to why a few of these bloggers have decided to latch on to this particular story and press it the way they have, but I honestly think everyone just needs to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he's learned from past mistakes.

Of course, if he repeats the same mistakes at Spurs then it's something we will need to deal with head-on.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I enjoy some of this bloke's articles but, honestly, some of the hand-wringing over Aurier has been way, way over the top. Initially from the Americans at SB Nation, followed by a few others jumping on the bandwagon.

A kid - probably not a very well educated kid - did something dumb.

He issued an apology. Yet because he didn't specifically say precisely he was sorry for, these people want our club to dig it up again and publically drag him through some PR exercise?

It's a nonsense.

I would agree that there is a sensible discussion to be had here about academies doing more to educate kids who are - often due to socio-economic reasons - not very bright and in a bit of a macho bubble from a young age. But that's an issue for football as a whole, not just this one player.

I could offer a very cynical observation as to why a few of these bloggers have decided to latch on to this particular story and press it the way they have, but I honestly think everyone just needs to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he's learned from past mistakes.

Of course, if he repeats the same mistakes at Spurs then it's something we will need to deal with head-on.

Superb post

 

[KenTHFC]

Hotspur Related‏ @HotspurRelated 5m5 minutes ago
#thfc have completed a £23M deal to sign PSG defender Serge Aurier, subject to obtaining a work permit. [Sky Sports]

wonder if this is them repeating the rumours as fact or whether they know something. OR whether an announcement from Spurs is imminent - perhaps this evening.

Ross (just the one guy running the account) just reports stories, whilst he hears bits and pieces he doesn't tweet that

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

Talking about the media.

Poch will address it once, with his usual eloquence and class, and will then refer any further/future questions on it to that initial address.

One of the things I'm hoping for is that Aurier and Poch can set a tone for all of us fans to follow.. there are gay fans and gay footballers who must feel like shite given the sort of things chanted .. the right stance from Spurs & other clubs is needed

 

[Danners9]

I enjoy some of this bloke's articles but, honestly, some of the hand-wringing over Aurier has been way, way over the top. Initially from the Americans at SB Nation, followed by a few others jumping on the bandwagon
....
He issued an apology. Yet because he didn't specifically say precisely he was sorry for, these people want our club to dig it up again and publically drag him through some PR exercise?
...
I could offer a very cynical observation as to why a few of these bloggers have decided to latch on to this particular story and press it the way they have, but I honestly think everyone just needs to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he's learned from past mistakes.

Of course, if he repeats the same mistakes at Spurs then it's something we will need to deal with head-on.

It reminds me of when West Ham signed Lee Bowyer following the affray he was involved in. There were protests, accusations of racism, and the fanbase was distinctly non-plussed. Media has moved on since then and I would agree there is a huge possibility that some have done it for fame/clicks. I am sure the club has done its homework, but at the same time there will be a greater focus on his background now and the club might be wise to address it. Once. Then move on.

 

[Danners9]

Ross (just the one guy running the account) just reports stories, whilst he hears bits and pieces he doesn't tweet that

I know, it says it's from Sky Sports. The second paragraph is by me.

 

[thinktank]

Let the club deal with the PR on this.

Let poch enrich this guy's character and build him into a fine young man.

Let's all focus on his attributes and give him a clean slate.

Let's just do that shall we.

 

[dagraham]

Let the club deal with the PR on this.

Let poch enrich this guy's character and build him into a fine young man.

Let's all focus on his attributes and give him a clean slate.

Let's just do that shall we.

Ah, but there's always the possibility that he doesn't sign for us...... in which case he remains a first class **** .

 

[RJR1949]

Not done...yet
Not for RO

.....how much anguish can be created by just three letters....

 

[Spurrific]

I've said much worse stuff than he did and if I get the chance to slug one of SC's resident po-po, @bomberH or @jimtheyid - trus' me I'll take it.

 

[muppetman]

I think there's quite a bit of double standard stuff going on with our fan base and this guy. The comments he made about his manager and teammates are a mistake and yet Danny Rose needs to fuck off out of our club for what he said and when he said it?

I think for me I will wait and see what happens but if he comes out with any more shite whilst wearing our shirt then nobody can say they weren't warned.

It wouldn't hurt for the club to go on a bit of a charm offensive with him and the foundation work gives plenty of opportunity to do so.

From a footballing point of view looks to be as close a Walker swap as it would be possible to get so here's hoping it all works out.

 

[DJS]

Not done...yet
Not for RO

Okay I'm probably being dim but what does RO mean?

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Cheers jj and hercs!

Seems like were fishing here, bait has caught the hook, now its just slowly but surely reeling it in .. we all hope and wait in anticipation now DLs scrawny arms winding in his reel!!!

 

[RichieS]

It does look a great signing. To me he looks as commited in the tackle as Rose which is great. I can imagine them 2 put against each other in training.

The only annoying thing about bank holiday weekend is waiting a little longer for this to get done. Waiting that extra time for the work permit. I wonder if we might announce on Tuesday as subject to work permit.


But Chelsea parked the bus

They did indeed. The difference between them and most of the rest of the PL is that not only do they possess the quality to keep all of Eriksen, Dele and Kane quiet centrally, they are also able to shut the wings down at the same time. Trippier has already shown that he loves playing against the bus-parking fodder from lower down the league.

 

[Bulletspur]

I've already seen that some fans are upset about it, others not so bothered, and others focusing on the football only (similar to how some would say 'ah but he was a superb musician...' when finding out about something horrific from the past). I've read the blogs where they say his comments/attitude shouldn't be tolerated and the ensuing Twitter arguments.. so now it looks like it will happen, what should the club do about it. He will continue to divide opinion, so he/the club might need to find a way to get them back on side.

When you say some fans you mean you! Other footballers like John Terry who are just as culpable in there behaviour and utterance are given a second chance without any fuss. Need to step off your high horse a bit.

I enjoy some of this bloke's articles but, honestly, some of the hand-wringing over Aurier has been way, way over the top. Initially from the Americans at SB Nation, followed by a few others jumping on the bandwagon.

A kid - probably not a very well educated kid - did something dumb.

He issued an apology. Yet because he didn't specifically say precisely he was sorry for, these people want our club to dig it up again and publically drag him through some PR exercise?

It's a nonsense.

I would agree that there is a sensible discussion to be had here about academies doing more to educate kids who are - often due to socio-economic reasons - not very bright and in a bit of a macho bubble from a young age. But that's an issue for football as a whole, not just this one player.

I could offer a very cynical observation as to why a few of these bloggers have decided to latch on to this particular story and press it the way they have, but I honestly think everyone just needs to move on and give him the benefit of the doubt that he's learned from past mistakes.

Of course, if he repeats the same mistakes at Spurs then it's something we will need to deal with head-on.

Well said!!

 

[pennywise]

He better show up for a session with LGBT Spurs. It can't be that difficult to arrange.