Serge Aurier
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Danners9
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Eh? I don't mean me at all. I have spoken completely objectively and not given my own opinion at all.
It says 'some.. others.. and others'. There are three separate positions there. No high horse at all. You're reading this wrong, I'm afraid.
diamond lights
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Can we all move on from Aurier's past indiscretions.
He's a young man that said some stupid things. He appears to be an enthusiastic, larger than life character and made mistakes.
He didn't kill anyone, support the Nazis or endanger anyone's life. He made some silly comments at age 23. I am nearly 50 and have heard far worse in many casual conversations.
If he signs Poch will be asked and he will say young men make mistakes, they apologise and learn lessons and move on.
Just let it go - he'll be a fantastic addition on the pitch. I think he could become a big favourite with his style of play.
He's a young man that said some stupid things. He appears to be an enthusiastic, larger than life character and made mistakes.
He didn't kill anyone, support the Nazis or endanger anyone's life. He made some silly comments at age 23. I am nearly 50 and have heard far worse in many casual conversations.
If he signs Poch will be asked and he will say young men make mistakes, they apologise and learn lessons and move on.
Just let it go - he'll be a fantastic addition on the pitch. I think he could become a big favourite with his style of play.
CRINGE.
hughy
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Glenn Hoddle mk 2.
spacessships
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It's hard to "move on" when Spurs fans react to his potential transfer like this and this and this and this and now even stalking a writer (who is not an American).
Is it overreacting if an LGBT fan doesn't feel safe to go to a Spurs game now? Or even speak their mind? And why are people jumping to defend Aurier before our own fans, he's not even kicked a ball for us yet?
The obvious thinking is "if it doesn't effect me, then no one else should care about it."
But after we've been linked with other RBs around the same price or even cheaper than Aurier, I don't see why it's such a crime to want one of them instead of a player who called his manager a "f*ggot" said he sucks Zlatan and "takes his whole balls" on social media three days before a R16 UCL match against Chelsea and then fakes an apology so poorly that Al-Kalaifi punched a door and multiple teammates wanted him off the squad. If it's okay to call Rose a snake after he says he wants to leave, I find it incredibly hypocritical to tell people they shouldn't have a problem with Aurier.
The fans are the reason the club continues to run, we may not be on the pitch or in the boardroom but without us there is no new stadium or £40m+ signing. Personally I'm proud we have fans writing articles and asking questions about how other fans may be impacted by the club's actions and wanting to keep us in check ethically. It's exactly what sets us apart from clubs like Chelski.
Bring on the negs and Come On You Spurs
spacessships
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I keep seeing this reasoning and rolling my eyes.
There is a big difference between a "casual conversation" as Joe-nobody (sorry but that's me too) and a social media broadcast as a public figure.
It's why the media has scheduled interviews after games and not cameras in the locker rooms. The managers and players need a place to speak freely without outside judgement. That information is not, and should not be made public. If they want to air their grievances publicly, there are better ways to do it.
Jody
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Good post. I personally was a bit quick to make light of his misdemeanors but that was probably down to my ignorance of what he's actually said and done. Personally don't feel I'm in a position to comment now but I do trust in Poch as someone of good character so him coming could mean one less homophobe shooting his mouth of in the future? Better he's here than the Chavs etc?
pennywise
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Does this actually make you cringe? Would someone with a past of racist offences apologising and trying to repair the damage be an offence to you as well?
If you and other Spurs-fans 'cringe' over the idea of someone like Aurier showing a bit of solidarity with a group of supporters who already struggle in the stands, then I think that's a much bigger problem than the believes and actions of individual players in the squad. Not any better than the Chavs.
gilzeantheking
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All I personally care about is whether he is a decent footballer or not. He apologised for what he said. That is enough for me.
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I agree what he said was wrong and stupid but it's done and people need to move on.
I'll say again he apologised for what he said. He didn't kill or rape anyone.
We all make mistakes and deserve 2nd chances.
The more people talk about it the more of an issue it becomes.
worcestersauce
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I really do think you do our LGBT fans a disservice if you think someone expressing his disatisfaction at what he perceives as favouitism in an ignorant offensive way is going to leave them feeling unsafe to go to a Spurs game. What do you think they are a bunch of shrinking violets? Not sure any that I know would be scared off by this.
dalektikal
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I've always been of the school of thought that it's best to separate the artist from the artform.
There are somethings that are beyond the pale & I would have thought if he'd done something like that Levy & Poch wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. They've obviously decided his transgressions are misdemeanours & they have almost certainly spoken to him to see if he understands the issues he's caused & whether he's learnt from them & they obviously think he has.
I'm prepared to go with their decision & I'm only really concerned about what he can do on the pitch for us.
I'm prepared to go with their decision & I'm only really concerned about what he can do on the pitch for us.
JB_Spurs
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If wanting a player to build bridges with a group of our fans who understandably aren't ecstatic at the thought of him signing given his past makes you cringe then I despair.
eddiev14
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You make some fine points but, whatever is said and done, there will always be nasty pieces of work everywhere in life, mate. If I saw anyone say something like that at the ground, I would step in and tell that person where to go and I would like to think many fellow Spurs fans would.
My suspicion is that most of those cowards wouldn't dare say something like that from anywhere other than from behind a keyboard though.
Bottom line, we aren't going to stop online idiots, like those posted, thinking and posting idiotic things like what you have pasted, and neither is the club. Their issues are more deep-rooted than just some player signing for our club. Twitter frankly should have disabled their accounts IMO.
In any case, I don't think this is a discussion about Serge Aurier anymore. My view about him is as posted.
I'm not going to pass further comment on the people who have written the articles, or the tone some have taken because my opinions would start another debate I'm not interested in having.
Hotspurious
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Wait....what LGBT fan would feel unsafe to go to a Spurs match because some player made a crude homophobic remark in France? How exactly does that endanger a Spurs fan in the stands? I agree that his character issues deserve careful vetting by anyone thinking of signing him but some of the hyperbole is over the top. I think it may be worth taking a chance on the kid though I am concerned about his character issues and I think it's disingenuous to assume that anyone who thinks as much doesn't care about what he said and did because it doesn't affect them. That is simply not true for me and I assume I am not alone. Poch and Levy have more to lose than I do if this turns out to be a mistake so I will rely on their best judgment.
Kirito
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Forcing it on the player is what makes it cringeworthy. If he decides to make it happen then it's a good thing.
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