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Based on form probably Alli.
Team Whispers: Who should Spurs sign in January?
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Based on form probably Alli.
jonathanhotspur
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Out of interest, do you see us managing to keep all of our key attacking players next summer?
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There were players we could have added and still can, but it's about cost and viability (and value) as ever.
But here's the problem, none of them are less productive than Zaha, so do you advocate we spend 50m on a player who is already less productive and a long way from being sure to improve enough to be a viable regular first replacement for Eriksen, Son, Alli or Kane ?
As I have said from the get go, I understand looking at Zaha and thinking, be nice to have one of them in our armoury, but 50m to have one on your bench, maybe getting the odd game, and maybe becoming a regular, possibly really isn't very viable is it.
That was the point of scouting and buying a player like Nkoudou wasn't it ? we spend 12m and if he turns out not to be the next hot thing - or even next Zaha - you haven't spunked your war chest, like we did with Sissoko, another player with a very similar profile/risk. An erratic player, with pace, who'd seemingly had success at a shit club.
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By that statement you seem to be comparing Zaha to Nkoudou and Njie. Which if the case you are way, way, off the mark.
Zaha is a prem proven performer, his clubs best player and pretty much keeping them in this league, comparisons to Nkoudou are ludicrous.
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The only one I could see one of the uber clubs being remotely interested in right now is Eriksen.
jonathanhotspur
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So do you see Alli and Kane staying put?
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Yeah, but he's also a long way from being good enough or productive enough to be that for us, as we already have a bunch of players, including the likes of Son, who can't get a game every week for us and are all more productive than Zaha
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I think Kane will be here at least one more season, and even if he wasn't, I wouldn't see Zaha as viable alternative, and I can't see which uber club would be remotely interested in spending the type of money Levy would demand for Alli right now, can you ?
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Not sure. Not sure Alli wants to be here anymore. In fact, I am genuinely concerned that we have a number of players who are eyeing the exit door.
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The circumstances are totally different, Son plays for us and we are better than Palace and his primary job/skill is to score goals which he does well. Zaha is different, he is an all rounder, strong, quick, can press well, outstanding dribbler with improving delivery.
The guy is an absolute nightmare to defend against, teams put 2-3 men on him. Someone like him would give us a different type of skill set and option. Even if Son/Dele managed to keep him out the extra competition would also mean Son or Dele would have to be on top form to stay in the side.
I Think point is if you want to compete in CL PL you don’t really have a first xi. Imo you need at least 7 top draw attacking players that are interchangeable without losing quality. Currently we have 5 Kane eriksen son dele Lamela. We need at least one more top draw like a zaha and reliable Kane back up.
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you're comparing Zaha's productivity for a club like Palace with players at ours. it's hardly a fair comparison. but whether it's Zaha or someone else, I don't think we can afford to keep taking punts on unknowns in an area most would deem as important. that experiment has failed at least twice over now. £50m isn't much more than we spent on Sissoko and N'Koudou combined, and Sissoko has gotten A LOT of game time. that's not even taking into account the number of times Eriksen and/or Alli have been almost crying out to be dropped with their form, and there not being any suitable replacements for them. City, United, Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal all have a number different high-quality options going forward. I know we can't afford a whole bench full of them, but for damn sure we could EASILY accommodate one in this current misfiring setup.
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Maybe. Rose, TA, Dier ? Eriksen would be the only one I'd be really worried about though.
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All of you guys arguing for Zaha, I get some of your arguments, as I said from the get go, I can understand if it was a simple case of "wouldn't it be nice to have a Zaha in our squad as an option" I can understand the answer being "yes". But I personally think it is much, much more complicated than that and I really think we have much bigger priorities if we are going to start chucking down 50m for a player.
Much, much more than we need another erratic attacking player, we need one or maybe two CM's. I still think we need more intelligence in our attack than we do Zaha's pacey jiggery fuckery and we do not lack goals from our current attacking options, we do lack people that create quality chances and this is Zaha's weakest area, again, all our current AM's create more than he does. And it's a massive 50m leap of faith to assume that just because he comes to play for us he's going to radically improve that, Sissoko didn't.
And I think Zaha is the type of player that needs to start most weeks to be anywhere near his best, and that best is still very erratic and inconsistent. If he isn't going to play every week, will we even get the "best" Zaha?
Which is where the Nkoudou comments come in. He was bought with the potential to develop into that pacey, dribbly role, so why hasn't/doesn't Poch just work on giving him more time, bringing him into games we are shelling leads and see if he can give us the same kind of counter threat Zaha would, and we spend 50m on a decent Cm or two.
Much, much more than we need another erratic attacking player, we need one or maybe two CM's. I still think we need more intelligence in our attack than we do Zaha's pacey jiggery fuckery and we do not lack goals from our current attacking options, we do lack people that create quality chances and this is Zaha's weakest area, again, all our current AM's create more than he does. And it's a massive 50m leap of faith to assume that just because he comes to play for us he's going to radically improve that, Sissoko didn't.
And I think Zaha is the type of player that needs to start most weeks to be anywhere near his best, and that best is still very erratic and inconsistent. If he isn't going to play every week, will we even get the "best" Zaha?
Which is where the Nkoudou comments come in. He was bought with the potential to develop into that pacey, dribbly role, so why hasn't/doesn't Poch just work on giving him more time, bringing him into games we are shelling leads and see if he can give us the same kind of counter threat Zaha would, and we spend 50m on a decent Cm or two.
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Really, the player we should have bought last summer was Naby Keita, he would have been the perfect signing for us and it pisses me off royally that he’s off to Liverpool. I do think we really need a attacking midfielder that can dribble, creat and score. Essentially Salah, Hazard etc as well. But your right about CM. I can only assume the talk of Ross Barkley being converted into a CM might be true... which I would not be wild about. We really need a quality B2B and there are not many about.
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The Palace owner believed Zaha was off last summer. The transfer cost was not an issue. However after offering Zaha £40k p/w the negotiations were over. Soon after he signed a new contract with Palace.
So unless we’re going back with a much better offer then there’s no chance he will be signing.
Also Palace do not expect Zaha to leave in Jan unless it’s a crazy offer. So again is this an offer we’re likely to make? Doubtful.
So unless we’re going back with a much better offer then there’s no chance he will be signing.
Also Palace do not expect Zaha to leave in Jan unless it’s a crazy offer. So again is this an offer we’re likely to make? Doubtful.
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I really don’t see our league form effecting our transfer business at all. Only transfer is maybe Sess if Rose goes.
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And for all you pace junkies, if we can bring in Sessegnon, he’ll provide that and is much more composed that Zaha was it a he same age, not quite as tricky in the dribble, but a real livewire.
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And keeping them all injury free and rested.
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On the basis of recent form, I'd put Lamela and Zaha in ahead of Eriksen and Alli, both are not deserving of a place presently.
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