So now we have Kane, Ali, Son, Eriksen, Lamela, Moura, Llorente and Sissoko for the front 4 positions. Let Sissoko and Lloreernte go, We will need another forward player who can primarily play as a striker but also play as a winger. Martial for me will be suited us better than malcom.
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dontcallme
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Sissoko has often been playing deeper and used to cover the wing backs.
If we sell we will need a replacement.
when fit
spursfan77
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I'll believe it when I see it. I really doubt this summer will be any different than usual. 4/5 in and 4/5 out.
spursfan77
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There was reports the other week that Man Utd have taken our club secretary again. I wonder what the position is here in terms of knowledge of contracts etc. It was rumoured when they took Alexander that there were worries that he might spill the beans regarding those. I suspect there would be a non disclosure agreement signed?
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Above was in yesterday's Sun
Sun says today...Watford won't be signing Ben Wilmots.
I know these rags print garbage at the best of times, but please, same rag in 24 hrs.
#hokeykokeythickasfeck
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WiganSpur
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We should sell Sissoko and drop Dier back to CB to replace Toby.
That leaves Winks, Wanyama and Dembele. One top class mid will do but if Dembele goes we'll probably need another in too.
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Dier has been great in his DM role this season and everyone was frustrated (although I don't believe it was justified) when he was at CB. Why do you want to move him? The midfielder we need to bring in should be one to rotate with Dembele and Winks as it seems like neither of them can be fit at the same time.
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Because I think Dier is a great CB and an average CM, especially in a two.
He is relatively sloppy in possession and lacks the necessary agility and dynamism to play any other role than possibly an anchor man in a 4-3-3 role. He's easily pressed and easily turned too.
Dier's strengths are his ability to cover balls played through the back line, his tackling and his aerial ability. Those are much more CB qualities.
When you place him in a midfield role some of those strengths become redundant and it also brings to light the things he's not so good at. As a midfielder you have to be responsible for showing for the ball and nipping it around effectively at tempo, as well as being able to negotiate pressure well either through a quick sharp turn or pass. All that is just not Dier's game for me. He is too static.
If Dier is to be played in midfield it should be in a primarily defensive 3 man setup where he has dynamic and technical midfield players in front of him.
A fit Wanyama (when given a run of games) is a much better option and more natural midfielder in our current set up.
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I just have a hard time saying that when, largely due to the dominance of our midfield we have rolled through Chelsea, Man U, dominated Juve, Arsenal using Dembele and Dier in a midfield two and completely shutting down opposing offenses.
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I agree with you that Dier in midfield is nonsensically under-rated on here. Although the commonality between those teams you mentioned is that none of them are effectively pressing this season. Where Dier does fall down is against quality teams that press really well, he can go into his shell, or make mistakes.
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From my perspective the reason Dier gets the DM nod, more than just fitness, is also vertical passing. Don't confuse this for saying he's great at passing, but he will pass vertically more than Wanyama or Dembele (sometimes to our detriment and right to an opposing player...). On paper a Wanyama-Dembele pivot should be fire, and it was last year when we had a back 3 and two wingbacks. Wanyama and Dembele could then move the ball effectively and then offload it to our higher wingbacks or push it back to Dier, Toby, or Jan to send it vertically through the space that was opened. What a Wanyama-Dembele pivot has led to a lot this year with a back 4 is Eriksen coming deeper and deeper to pick up the ball and fill this missing aspect of their game. Dembele's rare throughball last weekend put Dele clear through on goal and he was able to lay it off for the assist. He just does it sooooo rarely. Dier doesn't do it to amazing lengths more, but he will give it a go.
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I don't think the Wanyama/Dembele double pivot is the be all and end all either to be honest mostly because of Dembele's unique qualities.
Dembele is good at being a calming influence and beating players with ease but he sometimes lacks incisiveness with his passing. He's not a holding player but he's not a traditional playmaker either.
When Wanyama and Dembele play then that's the reason why we sometimes suffer from sideways passing. Wanyama is more of an insurance man who can win the ball and keep it simple and tidy and when Dembele is lacking the forward pass it can make it difficult for us to shift the ball about effectively.
Dier probably does pass more vertically, but often it's just in times of panic because he isn't agile enough to drop a shoulder or complete a quick turn to alleviate pressure. It's often not very accurate too apart from the very occasional decent long punt or switch pass to the flanks. It's no good passing forward if you continually piss the ball away while doing so.
We need a mid that will compete physically like Wanyama and Dembele do but will also pass progressively and accurately.
WiganSpur
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Ademola Lookman is my slightly more realistic shout.
Fat Sam sent him out on loan so might not be totally in his plans. Reckon they'd consider £30m or so.
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Am I right in thinking Moutinho will shortly be out of contract?
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Are you actually advocating spending 30m on Ademola Lookman?
WiganSpur
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Doubt they would sell him for less. £30m is no longer huge for a gifted 20 year old striker in today's market.
He's a really talented player who just needs game time and the right coach. He can play wide or upfront too and will be happy for understudy and regular cup minutes.
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