Really disappointed with the reactions of people on here. So much bitterness coming from people who can't accept Juve beating Spurs in the last round, and allowing it to cloud their opinions. That was such a soft penalty, there was a hand on the back but it wasn't excessive and Benatia got the ball. Vasquez hit the deck the second he could hear Benatia come up behind him and the ref should never have called it. A big talking point at work and amongst my friends and I'm struggling to find anyone that thinks it was a stonewall pen. Quite a few 50/50's but not the levels of exaggeration on here. Apologies if this pisses people off but quite a few posters showing how fickle and bitter fans can be. If Real had knocked us out in the last round you just know it would be a complete reversal of opinion. It's also one of those where had it have been Spurs in Juve's position with those decisions people would be apoplectic and calling for Oliver's head.
Buffon was understandably frustrated, albeit probably too animated, but that's pretty standard for Italians to be so animated. A straight red for protesting for a man who has never been anything but a consumate professional and a gentleman of the game is incredibly harsh. If he said something untorwards then fair enough, but a straight red is over the top and Oliver lost his nerve.
It's frustrating for me as I've also been a Juve fan all my life and totally expect people on here to be one sided when it's Juve vs Spurs, but to see people carry forward the bitterness is disappointing. I genuinely wanted Spurs to go through, I've always been 60/40 towards Spurs in terms of my allegianeces and I really felt we needed and deserved it more. I really feel Spurs would've gave more against Real than Juve so that's a shame, but I guess that's football. Gutted to see both teams out but very proud of them both.
Buffon speaking about Roma and referees after a 2014 3-2 win:Buffon says the referee "cannot destroy dreams like that, you cannot ruin the dreams of a team". Perhaps their dreams being ruined had less to do with the referee and more to do with losing 3-0 at home.
I was annoyed that it was given, but it was a penalty. Benatia had already made two rash tackles prior to that. The person at fault was Allegri, who a) didn't press for the win and b) decided to hang on for extra-time when it was clear that his team were tiring.I wanted Juve to win but that was a pen all day. The only person to be blamed, if anyone should at all, is Benatia. Buffon let himself down with his reaction and deserved to see red. I wish more referees would stand up to aggressive players in their face.
That's just total bollocks. You don't sign for Juve for being average. He was a beast for Roma and if Wenger had half a brain, he would have kept him at Arsenal. Gooner bias aside, Szczęsny is a fantastic goalkeeper. I don't like him personally, but you can't deny him talent. He was brought in as Buffon's successor.
Really disappointed with the reactions of people on here. So much bitterness coming from people who can't accept Juve beating Spurs in the last round, and allowing it to cloud their opinions. That was such a soft penalty, there was a hand on the back but it wasn't excessive and Benatia got the ball. Vasquez hit the deck the second he could hear Benatia come up behind him and the ref should never have called it. A big talking point at work and amongst my friends and I'm struggling to find anyone that thinks it was a stonewall pen. Quite a few 50/50's but not the levels of exaggeration on here. Apologies if this pisses people off but quite a few posters showing how fickle and bitter fans can be. If Real had knocked us out in the last round you just know it would be a complete reversal of opinion. It's also one of those where had it have been Spurs in Juve's position with those decisions people would be apoplectic and calling for Oliver's head.
Buffon was understandably frustrated, albeit probably too animated, but that's pretty standard for Italians to be so animated. A straight red for protesting for a man who has never been anything but a consumate professional and a gentleman of the game is incredibly harsh. If he said something untorwards then fair enough, but a straight red is over the top and Oliver lost his nerve.
It's frustrating for me as I've also been a Juve fan all my life and totally expect people on here to be one sided when it's Juve vs Spurs, but to see people carry forward the bitterness is disappointing. I genuinely wanted Spurs to go through, I've always been 60/40 towards Spurs in terms of my allegianeces and I really felt we needed and deserved it more. I really feel Spurs would've gave more against Real than Juve so that's a shame, but I guess that's football. Gutted to see both teams out but very proud of them both.
I said in this thread that I really wanted Buffon to win the CL before the incident occurred, and I still thought it was a nailed-on penalty. I would be very disappointed in our players had we reacted like that to a correct decision.That's how I'm seeing it as well.
I reckon the same people who are saying it's a 'stonewall' penalty would be up in arms if it was given against Spurs.
I understand why it was given, and I think looking at it again it probably is a penalty, but to say it's clearly a penalty is nonsense, particularly as the guy was going down before there was any contact.
I don't feel sorry for Juve at all, and I think they were lucky not to have more players sent off for that reaction to the penalty, but it was definitely a soft one.
And Benatia tried to wrap his leg around Vasquez's neck for good measure. From behind, of course.He got clattered from behind by a defender he didn’t know was there? What exactly else was he going to do but fall over?
BRAVO!!!Really disappointed with the reactions of people on here. So much bitterness coming from people who can't accept Juve beating Spurs in the last round, and allowing it to cloud their opinions. That was such a soft penalty, there was a hand on the back but it wasn't excessive and Benatia got the ball. Vasquez hit the deck the second he could hear Benatia come up behind him and the ref should never have called it. A big talking point at work and amongst my friends and I'm struggling to find anyone that thinks it was a stonewall pen. Quite a few 50/50's but not the levels of exaggeration on here. Apologies if this pisses people off but quite a few posters showing how fickle and bitter fans can be. If Real had knocked us out in the last round you just know it would be a complete reversal of opinion. It's also one of those where had it have been Spurs in Juve's position with those decisions people would be apoplectic and calling for Oliver's head.
Buffon was understandably frustrated, albeit probably too animated, but that's pretty standard for Italians to be so animated. A straight red for protesting for a man who has never been anything but a consumate professional and a gentleman of the game is incredibly harsh. If he said something untorwards then fair enough, but a straight red is over the top and Oliver lost his nerve.
It's frustrating for me as I've also been a Juve fan all my life and totally expect people on here to be one sided when it's Juve vs Spurs, but to see people carry forward the bitterness is disappointing. I genuinely wanted Spurs to go through, I've always been 60/40 towards Spurs in terms of my allegianeces and I really felt we needed and deserved it more. I really feel Spurs would've gave more against Real than Juve so that's a shame, but I guess that's football. Gutted to see both teams out but very proud of them both.
All assumption on your part. Many Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham and United fans in my office are adamant it's a pen.So much bitterness coming from people who can't accept Juve beating Spurs in the last round, and allowing it to cloud their opinions
Oh. As you were...I've also been a Juve fan all my life
How is this a debate? Clear penalty.