£30m got you Sissoko 2 years ago.
Whatever we think of him he’s a full international and was a regular in the team, with lots of Prem experience..
Whatever we think of him he’s a full international and was a regular in the team, with lots of Prem experience..
Well I'm mixed race DM and am neither white nor black! I'm mixed race. In fact, I would say that society considers mixed white and black heritage people like myself to be firmly black! Which as you say is purely down to bigotry.There are a lot of people going off on tangents about racism. I'm not buying some of it and I'm usually one of the people attributing things to racism when others don't.
Let's focus back: the main issue here is that Collymore accused Wright of being an Uncle Tom. That's not only incredibly insulting, it's also unsupportable. Since his retirement, Ian Wright has carefully styled his image as a well-to-do, stylishly-dressed and confident middle-class Black man, without having to crush his spontaneity or his sense of fun. He's managed to look and sound socially-mobile, without abandoning his roots, his personality or his accent.
I'm not sure Stan Collymore is well-placed to tell other Black men what kind of behaviour is acceptable from a Black man in the media. Ian Wright seems at home in himself. Stan Collymore, who is a highly intelligent guy, despite his sometimes erratic behaviour and mental health problems, might want to think hard about why he resents Ian Wright.
As for the person who suggested that mixed race people are "White": pffft! Society and bigotry say otherwise.
Well I'm mixed race DM and am neither white nor black! I'm mixed race. In fact, I would say that society considers mixed white and black heritage people like myself to be firmly black! Which as you say is purely down to bigotry.
Regarding Ian Wright, I must disagree with your assessment that he has styled himself in the mould of a middle class black man. The caveat of course being how one would define middle class, never mind black middle class! He is from a generation, in football and wider south London culture, where the differences between white and black kids in terms of the language they use etc are minimal. He has also spent many many years in the "go on, get stuck in son" bubble of working class, white-dominated football. I have always liked Ian Wright because he hasn't gentrified himself for the public, he is working class south london and doesnt try to hide it. He is however wealthy, very far from stupid and has experienced many things that the average south londoner will not have. As such he has inevitably changed to some degree. I myself, although a good bit younger than him, grew up not too far away and in a very similar environment and while there is still a bit of the 'council estate kid' about me I have been changed by my graduate and post graduate studies as well as my profession as a teacher. I do pride myself however on not returning from university with 'uni-voice'! Collymore, is an attention seeking and increasingly irrelevant individual who has to say these things in order to seem controversial and thus worth listening to!
Whatever we think of him he’s a full international and was a regular in the team, with lots of Prem experience..
He’s also shit. We’d do very well to even get half of what we paid back in a sale.Whatever we think of him he’s a full international and was a regular in the team, with lots of Prem experience..
Exactly right! Just because we overpaid for one player doesn't mean that we should then proceed to overpay for a different player.And we still over paid.
I hate this market value bollocks. We paid almost as much for dean richards as we di for vertonhen. Price is not the same as value and the market for football is all over the place.
I'd be happy just to get him off the books. I don't think he's a bad player, he's just not good for us, for whatever reason, be it the transfer fee affecting him or because he just can't play in Poch's system. He's shown that he isn't a good fit for Spurs, so he should really be moved on.He’s also shit. We’d do very well to even get half of what we paid back in a sale.
And we still over paid.
I hate this market value bollocks. We paid almost as much for dean richards as we di for vertonhen. Price is not the same as value and the market for football is all over the place.
What, on his own?If Grealish was worth what Villa think he is, he’d have torn the Championship a new one and won the club promotion.
They spoke to Bruce this week alsoNot about us but I found this gem on Villa talk about the Bielsa appointment.
" Scientists have predicted that by the year 2025 no-one will be more than 12 feet away from a former Leeds United manager"
They spoke to Bruce this week also
If Grealish was worth what Villa think he is, he’d have torn the Championship a new one and won the club promotion.
As it is he performed reasonably well in a play-off standard side and thus unsurprisingly does not exactly have PL clubs smashing down the door to get him in.
£15m is a good price for Villa but I’d have no problem if they turned us down - he has some potential but he’d have to drastically improve to get anywhere near our first team.
Maybe it’s just me being overly sensitive, growing up in the early 90’s when the only black people on TV was Andy Peters, Mr Motivatior and Denzil I got a bit of a bee in my bonnet about misrepresentation...
Chris Kamara is a throw back to when you needed to act like that to make it as a black man.
In what world has Grealish deserved to be a £30m player ? A championship player. £15m is more than fair.