The Spurs Youth Thread - 2018/19

TwanYid · Jul 24, 2018

As far as I can make out, Brooklyn Lyons-Foster is the only youngster with a chance of making it with us- as he is the lone player on the roster with a hyphenated surname.

ChristianBaler · Jul 24, 2018

guru said:
I also heard that brown and Griffiths have left as they were not happy .

We need someone else to back this claim up as well.....no Griffiths in the US was concerning, but after hearing this its a big concern now

taidgh · Jul 24, 2018

Blake Griffin said:
he was doing gym work - https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/tottenham-hotspur?family=editorial&page=2&phrase=tottenham hotspur&sort=newest (about halfway down, not sure why i can't link to the actual images)

he's wearing the academy training kit though so seemingly not viewed by poch as a first team member.

God our away kit is terrible!

ChristianBaler · Jul 24, 2018

Blake Griffin said:
he was doing gym work - https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photos/tottenham-hotspur?family=editorial&page=2&phrase=tottenham hotspur&sort=newest (about halfway down, not sure why i can't link to the actual images)

he's wearing the academy training kit though so seemingly not viewed by poch as a first team member.

Where are you seeing this? I look through the page you posted and I cant see him at all

Blake Griffin · Jul 24, 2018

ChristianBaler said:
Where are you seeing this? I look through the page you posted and I cant see him at all

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/photo...torial&phrase=josh onomah&sort=newest#license

Spurzinho · Jul 24, 2018

guru said:
Went to the game tonight , Enfield Town were not the best , we completely bossed the first half , they did not really get near the ball , I over heard a Town player telling his father , how quick and fast we were in the first half , and they could not get near us in our ball play . Second half we mainly had our younger boys u18 playing , so we did not have as much possession and allowed them into the game . Stand outs were shashua , oglive , can tell Edwards has attitude , played for himself , no tracking back and helping his right back , body language poor . I also heard that brown and Griffiths have left as they were no longer happy at the club , and by the way that they were being treated . I am starting to think that spurs have major issues working with these lads , something sounds very very wrong and worrying , that we are losing such talents.

If so he didn't give it very long. He literally only signed a year's extension about three weeks ago. Was he expecting to be part of the first team pre-season program? I get it, kids want a chance - some of them should have had more, but some of these boys are just not being at all realistic. I like Griffiths, I think he's got something, but he's raw as feck and nowhere near ready for first team duty anywhere, yet. If he was happy here I don't think we'd consider even getting him a loan at the moment because he still has some in-house development to do. Add to that his childishness and you owe it to him to hold him back for it.

therhinospeaks · Jul 24, 2018

Spurzinho said:
If so he didn't give it very long. He literally only signed a year's extension about three weeks ago. Was he expecting to be part of the first team pre-season program? I get it, kids want a chance - some of them should have had more, but some of these boys are just not being at all realistic. I like Griffiths, I think he's got something, but he's raw as feck and nowhere near ready for first team duty anywhere, yet. If he was happy here I don't think we'd consider even getting him a loan at the moment because he still has some in-house development to do. Add to that his childishness and you owe it to him to hold him back for it.

Does seem a bit odd that only Griffiths and Brown were MIA. All the other youth players were in attendance bar them.

therhinospeaks · Jul 24, 2018

Blake Griffin said:
statham and dinzeyi

good to see marcus involved though.

Statham makes Dinzeyi look like Vidic. I can't take us seriously with him in our ranks.

nicdic · Jul 24, 2018

ChristianBaler said:
We need someone else to back this claim up as well.....no Griffiths in the US was concerning, but after hearing this its a big concern now

Griffiths was never going to be taken to the US.

mpickard2087 · Jul 24, 2018

wlhatwhl said:
A few years ago, there were comments from someone in the Spurs academy, possibly McDermott, that they were looking to bring players through to the senior team when they were 21/22, rather that as 18/19 year olds. The problem is that most of today's 18/19 year olds seem to think they should step into first team squad as soon as they sign a professional contract. Very few are ready at that age but the club does need to find away to encourage/show the best young players that there is a route towards the first team so that they don't leave at the earliest opportunity.

There is a danger though that, as Spurs have a tendency to do, if you get your better prospects into the U21/U23 level early on (eg. Onomah, Veljkovic, CCV, and now Skipp were playing at this level at like 16) then that is going to end up with them playing several seasons at that level and that's not always a good thing. To me it seems a pretty mediocre, low-key and maybe even fairly miserable environment and standard of football. A constant mish-mash of teams that are rolled out and often the better players across the competition are not there as they're out on loans. A better prospect might at least get exposure around the first team squad, but many of the 'average' ones might literally just get stuck in limbo.

I can honestly see how this path is a real test for players, and how they might start to feel they've got a bit stuck in a rut. Coming back for yet another season in randomly thrown together reserve games, seeing their peers elsewhere doing differently and getting opportunities, they've maybe even been parked away on a fairly random loan or two somewhere, plus at Spurs you also have Poch's elite training plan that gives you an idea of the pecking order. All can add up and be a factor. Then it depends where every individuals breaking point is...... They're human beings after all, and you see plenty of adults in every day life go through this, let alone precocious kids.

I don't really know what the answers are in order to bridge the gap to first team level, and there is an argument that it's all part of making it as a player, but I don't think it often helps young players being stuck at this level where it's all a bit going through the motions - whether they are ultimately destined to be PL players, Football League, or wherever.

therhinospeaks · Jul 24, 2018

Going back to last night I watched with intrigue how our tactical genius Mr.Burnett decided to operate Shilow Tracey as a number 9 with Shayon Harrison in a free number 10 role. Absolutely hilarious to see Shayon picking the ball off the centre halves and Shilow running offside every time.

loaderspurs · Jul 24, 2018

therhinospeaks said:
Going back to last night I watched with intrigue how our tactical genius Mr.Burnett decided to operate Shilow Tracey as a number 9 with Shayon Harrison in a free number 10 role. Absolutely hilarious to see Shayon picking the ball off the centre halves and Shilow running offside every time.

The only problem with this criticism is does anyone actually know what Tracey's position is??? :ROFLMAO:

therhinospeaks · Jul 24, 2018

loaderspurs said:
The only problem with this criticism is does anyone actually know what Tracey's position is???

leg 2 in the 4x400metres

rabbikeane · Jul 24, 2018

Didn't he play striker in his previous club, believe it was said when we chased his signature?

coys200 · Jul 24, 2018

therhinospeaks said:
leg 2 in the 4x400metres

With sissoko on leg 1 ?

Blake Griffin · Jul 24, 2018

loaderspurs said:
The only problem with this criticism is does anyone actually know what Tracey's position is???

false 9?

Anuth · Jul 24, 2018

Our U21 will defend our title this weekend

We are in Group A with Nice, PSG and Rennes

http://www.stage-preparation-bretagne.com/en/

loaderspurs · Jul 24, 2018

Poche has said in an interview that Onomah is in his plans, distinguishing between his situation and Janssen, so that would indicate he's not on the way out (this summer at least). Also confirmed he is recovering from an injury with Winks.

https://www.football.london/tottenh...hettino-vincent-janssen-onomah-winks-14944256

coys200 · Jul 24, 2018

Sure griffiths twitter had a spurs banner and is now neutral. Mildly amusing he looks about 35 in his Avi lol.

therhinospeaks · Jul 24, 2018

loaderspurs said:
Poche has said in an interview that Onomah is in his plans, distinguishing between his situation and Janssen, so that would indicate he's not on the way out (this summer at least). Also confirmed he is recovering from an injury with Winks.

https://www.football.london/tottenh...hettino-vincent-janssen-onomah-winks-14944256

Josh was hobbling at Enfield last night.

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