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This place if this happensReserved for the likely hood he sues, wins, and joins Chelsea on a free next year.
This place if this happensReserved for the likely hood he sues, wins, and joins Chelsea on a free next year.
The question is: bluffing, moved on to second option or just preparing in case Toby fails?Man Utd make approach for Maguire according to Sky. You’ve got to think it effects their chase of Toby?
He most probably took in consideration the age , thinking he'd take that price if we want to sell. All I can think of.Actually, the one thing I’m surprised about is the contract for Toby we agreed to with the clause inserted. Seems very un Levy like, but I assume that’s the only way we could get him from under Southampton’s noses.
I suppose looking at the circumstances of the transfer it’s not hard to imagine a mercenary like streak in Toby and his advisors.
Good point...being willing to pay so much for Maguire hardly puts them in a great negotiating spot.Leicester would surely have to consider at that price. They could replace him for a fraction, and good as he is, he's unlikely to make a difference between Leicester winning something or getting relegated.
First thought is whether Utd are trying to put the pressure on Levy, but surely admitting and inferior player is worth £65m doesn't help their cause!
Plus we had the trix info saying the Utd board wanted Maguire over Toby.
Good point...being willing to pay so much for Maguire hardly puts them in a great negotiating spot.
All players are for sale when someone offers enough money.[B]John Percy[/B]Verified account @[B]JPercyTelegraph[/B]2m2 minutes ago
Message from Leicester re:#mufc interest in Harry Maguire is that he’s absolutely not for sale. Club remain in talks over a new contract and are hopeful of reaching an agreement#lcfc
Maybe Leicester then come to us with a £60m offer for Toby and £200k a week.. Nothing in football would surprise me.Man Utd make approach for Maguire according to Sky. You’ve got to think it effects their chase of Toby?
Maybe Leicester then come to us with a £60m offer for Toby and £200k a week.. Nothing in football would surprise me.
Keeping Toby and getting Martial would take a real magic act by Levy.
'cept Harry. (our Harry, that is!)All players are for sale when someone offers enough money.
Or we could do what we’ve done since Christmas, and play Sanchez at the back with Vertonghen?
Everyone seems to forget that Toby barely featured for us from the mid point of last season, and when he did finally return we started dropping points all over the gaff. Not suggesting that correlation = causation in that regard, but surely if he was the reincarnation of Paolo Maldini as some like to make out then we’d have been more solid than ever in those games. We weren’t.
And even taking that out of the equation, we know from ITK that Toby has seriously upset Poch, and it goes well beyond wanting to force a move.
If he stays, he stays, but he isn’t even an automatic starter any more IMO given the rise and rise of Davinson in that position.
If we can get upwards of £50M for a 29 year old CB who has made himself a bench player through injuries, his performances and his conduct, then we should snap their hands off.
The sentimentality around Toby is seriously misplaced. He’s a good defender who’s generally played well for the club for three years. He isn’t a club legend like Ledley or Vertonghen, and he never will be. Sod him.
If we can use him to engineer the signing of Martial then happy days all around.
The debate for me is whether or not his injury impacts him going forwardI'll offer a rebuttal and say that after Toby's absence our defense was clearly not as good as it had been, especially in "big" games. After Toby went out we gave up 2 to Arsenal, 4 to Juve over 2 games, 7 against Man City in 2 games, 2 to ManU in the Semi and 2 to Liverpool away. We are a better team when Toby plays, I'm honestly shocked that its debatable.
The debate for me is whether or not his injury impacts him going forward
I didn't think he looked particularly good defensively for Belgium in the WC.
In the games against Belgium and France, I saw him get beat for pace multiple times and look reluctant to get physical with anyone.
I've maintained he lost a step physically after his nerve injury in late 2016, and it seems to be getting worse (especially after this latest hamstring tear)