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Tucker

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Some of the comments about him are embarrassing. The team has had a disjointed start to the season because of key injuries and the fact that a lot of our players played all the way to the last weekend of the World Cup. Trippier was one of those players.

He’s a good player, he’s just in a patch of dodgy form. People suggesting that Poch pick KWP ahead of him need to get real. Man City’s would have destroyed an inexperienced fullback. As for Aurier, I’m not convinced he’s any better than Trips. And hey, you know who’d have a better idea of that than both me and all of us, Pochettino.

Why is it there always has to be a bogey man with some of you people? We win as a team, and we lose as a team.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Tripps and Davies are mid table premiership players. Always have been and always will be. They both have their moments when they are at the top of their games and generally against the lower mid table sides

Struggling to see why Poch doesn't give KWP more opportunities now. Has done a great job when called upon and seems to have pace and a bit of trickery too
 

dtxspurs

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Some of the comments about him are embarrassing. The team has had a disjointed start to the season because of key injuries and the fact that a lot of our players played all the way to the last weekend of the World Cup. Trippier was one of those players.

He’s a good player, he’s just in a patch of dodgy form. People suggesting that Poch pick KWP ahead of him need to get real. Man City’s would have destroyed an inexperienced fullback. As for Aurier, I’m not convinced he’s any better than Trips. And hey, you know who’d have a better idea of that than both me and all of us, Pochettino.

Why is it there always has to be a bogey man with some of you people? We win as a team, and we lose as a team.

Man City destroyed an experienced fullback... His "experience" means jack shit when he is just flat out bad at defense. Auriers best games and potential are the closest we are going to be able to replicate what Walker brought to the squad.

So you're saying Trippier getting roasted by Sterling (another player in the England squad!!!) was due to him playing at the WC 3 months ago? The WC excuses are getting really boring, only players those work for with me are Kane, because we don't ever rotate him, and Son as he played another international tournament right after.
 

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That doesn't really mean that much though.
"Trippier joined Manchester City's academy at the age of nine, where he progressed through the ranks at the club, signing his first professional contract in 2007. In the 2007–08 season he became a regular in the reserve team" Never got further than reserve team player and they had nearly 10 years to assess whether he was going to make it and they obviously didn't believe he would
 

Tucker

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Man City destroyed an experienced fullback... His "experience" means jack shit when he is just flat out bad at defense. Auriers best games and potential are the closest we are going to be able to replicate what Walker brought to the squad.

So you're saying Trippier getting roasted by Sterling (another player in the England squad!!!) was due to him playing at the WC 3 months ago?

*sigh*

The guy made one mistake against probably the best attacking force in European football. I’m 100% certain KWP would have made more. I have no idea why an unproven youth player has this almost mythical reputation on this forum. It reminds me of when Tom Carrol was supposedly going to be the answer to all our problems back when AVB was in charge.

As for the tiredness issue with Sterling/Trippier, it’s hardly relevant. Different players have different tolerances to fatigue. Our style of play is notoriously hard on our fullbacks, so I’d also imagine that Trippier has had to put in a lot more work than Sterling. Not to mention the fact that Sterling has played nearly 200 less minutes of football since the start of the World Cup to Trippier.
 

dtxspurs

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*sigh*

The guy made one mistake against probably the best attacking force in European football. I’m 100% certain KWP would have made more. I have no idea why an unproven youth player has this almost mythical reputation on this forum. It reminds me of when Tom Carrol was supposedly going to be the answer to all our problems back when AVB was in charge.

As for the tiredness issue with Sterling/Trippier, it’s hardly relevant. Different players have different tolerances to fatigue. Our style of play is notoriously hard on our fullbacks, so I’d also imagine that Trippier has had to put in a lot more work than Sterling. Not to mention the fact that Sterling has played nearly 200 less minutes of football since the start of the World Cup to Trippier.

I think its ridiculous some of the hype these kids get as well. Particularly Skipp right now and to an extent Onomah. I think KWP has shown enough to be the backup option and it is simply my opinion Aurier is the better player. I thought that when we bought him and I think that now. I've seen enough of Trippiers defensive mishaps this season, last season, I've seen enough of him being unable to dribble at all due to his physical limitations, we need more from fullback than being able to cross. Anyone can do that, he just does it a little bit better than most.
 

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Quite a few of the observations on him are taking an either/or approach rather than thinking he is somewhere in the middle. He's a good defender against slow to mid speed players. He struggles mightily with quick, skillful players. For that reason, a healthy Aurier (if his mindset is proper) would seem to have been a better pick against City. When it was Trips, Toby and Jan, Toby's defensive support was quite helpful as Toby is a bit freer to slide over. One thing that was interesting on the goal was that it appeared there was the slightest nudge as he went up for the ball. He probably should have started his move towards the ball a bit further away but hindsight is 20/20. Where the real error was his attempt to take the ball back near the touch line. And if Davies made more effort 30-40 yards out to stay ahead of Mahrez, this section would probably be a couples page shorter.
 

double0

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Trippier is Alan Hutton in disguise I rather have Aurier Foyth or Walker-Peter at right back, sorry but he can't defend and hide far to much for my liking.
 

southlondonyiddo

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*sigh*

The guy made one mistake against probably the best attacking force in European football. I’m 100% certain KWP would have made more. I have no idea why an unproven youth player has this almost mythical reputation on this forum. It reminds me of when Tom Carrol was supposedly going to be the answer to all our problems back when AVB was in charge.

As for the tiredness issue with Sterling/Trippier, it’s hardly relevant. Different players have different tolerances to fatigue. Our style of play is notoriously hard on our fullbacks, so I’d also imagine that Trippier has had to put in a lot more work than Sterling. Not to mention the fact that Sterling has played nearly 200 less minutes of football since the start of the World Cup to Trippier.

I don't as yet see any mythical reputation for KWP

What I do see is a 21 year old who's had 3 chances in the league and done very well on each occasion. Carroll had 27 chances in the League and Onomah thus far has had 13. In those 40 appearances I have seen pretty much nothing

KWP has stepped up, performed well and imo deserves/needs more game time to see whether or not he will turn into a 'player' for us
 

Tucker

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I don't as yet see any mythical reputation for KWP

What I do see is a 21 year old who's had 3 chances in the league and done very well on each occasion. Carroll had 27 chances in the League and Onomah thus far has had 13. In those 40 appearances I have seen pretty much nothing

KWP has stepped up, performed well and imo deserves/needs more game time to see whether or not he will turn into a 'player' for us

There’s the mythical reputation right there. He’s an unproven youngster who’s done ok when called upon against lesser opposition. Trippier is an international with tonnes of PL experience. Yet there’s plenty of comments in this thread and others claiming KWP should be starting ahead of Tripps. It’s complete fantasy to think that would end well against Man City.

Should KWP start in the league cup against the spammers? Sure why not. But anyone who thinks he’d have done any better than Trippier last night is deluded.
 
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Actually i think that these days it's very important for fullbacks to be able to bring something offensively, at least pace! Davies has nothing with going forward, can't cross a shit and is slow. Too many times kicks the ball straight to a first opponents player when trying to create something. And our opponents know that, they don't need to worry about Davies and it's a fucking problem! Remember when Rose and Walker gave something to worry about with their phase and physique, ok they weren't the most clever players maybe but defensively solid and very good at delivering ball to offense and forcing opponent to give space to our other players. Those days are gone and I want them back!!
I agree completely I didn’t said I liked Davies.
Well those days are over. We sold the best RB in the league and the LB lost his shit and probably that amazing career he could have had if he’d continued like that.
 

southlondonyiddo

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There’s the mythical reputation right there. He’s an unproven youngster who’s done ok when called upon against lesser opposition. Trippier is an international with tonnes of PL experience. Yet there’s plenty of comments in this thread and others claiming KWP should be starting ahead of Tripps. It’s complete fantasy to think that would end well against Man City.

Should KWP start in the league cup against the spammers? Sure why not. But anyone who thinks he’d have done any better than Trippier last night is deluded.

I saw both performances in the flesh (not on a 42' TV Screen) v Newcastle (who are a poor side) and he was very good. Give the boy some credit when he did very well, the first on debut at St James Park!!!

We need to see more of him. I saw quite enough of Carroll. I haven't seen nearly enough of KWP.....
 

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I am in the anti-trippier camp at the moment because I think he believes the Bury Beckham hype. Apart from a good free kick in his first game for us he has been poor. He needs to forget the hype from the World Cup and start to work hard to be better.
 

wrd

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*sigh*

The guy made one mistake against probably the best attacking force in European football. I’m 100% certain KWP would have made more. I have no idea why an unproven youth player has this almost mythical reputation on this forum. It reminds me of when Tom Carrol was supposedly going to be the answer to all our problems back when AVB was in charge.

As for the tiredness issue with Sterling/Trippier, it’s hardly relevant. Different players have different tolerances to fatigue. Our style of play is notoriously hard on our fullbacks, so I’d also imagine that Trippier has had to put in a lot more work than Sterling. Not to mention the fact that Sterling has played nearly 200 less minutes of football since the start of the World Cup to Trippier.

It's not one mistake, add up everytime you've gone ah it's just one mistake with trippier and we'd be in double figures, against Liverpool and City he has always struggled. I think he has a purpose in our squad but defensively in those games he has been a massive liability.
 

EQP

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*sigh*

The guy made one mistake against probably the best attacking force in European football. I’m 100% certain KWP would have made more. I have no idea why an unproven youth player has this almost mythical reputation on this forum. It reminds me of when Tom Carrol was supposedly going to be the answer to all our problems back when AVB was in charge.

As for the tiredness issue with Sterling/Trippier, it’s hardly relevant. Different players have different tolerances to fatigue. Our style of play is notoriously hard on our fullbacks, so I’d also imagine that Trippier has had to put in a lot more work than Sterling. Not to mention the fact that Sterling has played nearly 200 less minutes of football since the start of the World Cup to Trippier.

We'll never know as he doesn't play. (y)
 
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