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Match Prediction

  • Spurs to Win

    Votes: 19 21.3%
  • Liverpool to Win

    Votes: 48 53.9%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 22 24.7%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    89
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SPURSLIFE

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Go back and watch some early Kane, his work from the front was unparalleled, his performances over the last two years are not at the same level of intensity or pace. (not even close)

I appreciate that as a player matures they learn that perhaps that all action style will harm them when a chance comes and they're too fucked to take it, but it was this approach to my mind that made him what he is, and he looked a much sharper player because of it, nowadays it seems his top speed is a jog and he barely runs the channels, leaving Son or Moura to do that. And is second to most things now even against slow defenders.

I feel the last two injuries and rushing back from both coupled with non stop international tournaments has hampered him badly, i just hope it's not permanent.
But his all round game has changed over those last two years he's almost more of a attacking midfielder but he still scores goals and makes many assists more than he did in the early days. Unfortunately our MF has been very poor with Deli not contributing like he did and Eriksen very poor of late and Kane has picked up that mantle.
 

Wig

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... should've put Son in tho...

Sissoko was looking to put Son in all the way as he drove forwards towards the box, but Van Dijk's positioning was utterly perfect to make sure the angle was blocked for the pass. Sissoko didn't want to shoot but was pressured into shooting as the pass wasn't on, and unfortunately lacked the composure for a clean shot
 

Wig

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Sissoko was looking to put Son in all the way as he drove forwards towards the box, but Van Dijk's positioning was utterly perfect to make sure the angle was blocked for the pass. Sissoko didn't want to shoot but was pressured into shooting as the pass wasn't on, and unfortunately lacked the composure for a clean shot
Maybe I should correct or clarify myself... the pass to Son might have been possible but there was enough doubt in Sissoko's mind about Van Dijk intercepting or not playing the perfect pass that he continued to run towards the box until he was out of options apart from taking a quick shot. Whichever way you look at it, such a pity such a glorious chance was wasted. Gutted.
 

Gassin's finest

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Sissoko was looking to put Son in all the way as he drove forwards towards the box, but Van Dijk's positioning was utterly perfect to make sure the angle was blocked for the pass. Sissoko didn't want to shoot but was pressured into shooting as the pass wasn't on, and unfortunately lacked the composure for a clean shot
People are saying that but I saw it as Sissoko dragging him away from Son, but didn't have the confidence in his two left feet to clip into him. Straw man scenario but if that's anyone else like Dele, Eriksen, Kane, Lamela etc etc and he puts Son clear away.

Anyway, minutiae and all that... I in no way want to criticise Sissoko because he has been immense this season, and been the difference in so many big games.
 

Gassin's finest

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Maybe I should correct or clarify myself... the pass to Son might have been possible but there was enough doubt in Sissoko's mind about Van Dijk intercepting or not playing the perfect pass that he continued to run towards the box until he was out of options apart from taking a quick shot. Whichever way you look at it, such a pity such a glorious chance was wasted. Gutted.
Or yeah, that ^ :D
 

Daytripper

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I've slept on it and im still bitter. I know I'm being petty but it really bugs me that Trent and Robertson both pulled out of their national squads with injury yet both were both on the top of their games yesterday, seems like they never had injuries in the first place!
 

Monkey boy

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I've slept on it and im still bitter. I know I'm being petty but it really bugs me that Trent and Robertson both pulled out of their national squads with injury yet both were both on the top of their games yesterday, seems like they never had injuries in the first place!

I can’t shake off the disappointment. Hopefully tomorrow I can put it behind me and start to look forward to Wednesday. My fear is that the crowd are going to be so nervy / down that it’s actually going to work against us.
 

The Long Suffering One

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Pickford, Speroni, now Lloris.. i cant recall in recent memory a title-chasing team benefiting from regular goalkeeping blunders late in games at their home patch..

it's as if the the goalkeeping union are colluding to (pardon the pun) hand Pool the title..

there's a clip of the 4th official celebrating Pool's winner this morning.. add that to the keeper union's efforts, im utterly convinced Pool will win the title.. not because they are better than City, oh no they are not, but the league will sort itself out to give it to them they way they sort Leicester out to win it..
 

Bobbins

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If you ever have financial troubles in life from now on. Ever. It's your own fault. Because unless you're brand new to watching Spurs or didn't have access to online/in-play betting during the game, then if you didn't lump money on a Liverpool winner as soon as Sissoko's shot went over the bar then there's clearly no helping you. As close to the bookies giving away free money as I've ever seen.

Seriously though - I thought we were very good yesterday especially in the second half. I liked the switch to a flat 4-4-2 with Vertonghen behind Rose on the left and then with Kane and Lucas as two strikers. Classic, old school, but it worked. Liverpool's wide threat was minimalised because of the extra man wide - Eriksen helped to drift inside when we needed more in the middle, and they found it hard to track Alli and Sissoko's runs forward whilst also having the two front men to occupy.

Just a shame that once again we're let down by individual mistakes...

Liverpool were 2/9 on to win just before we scored and were still 4/7 during that later part of the game. Not going to win much, the bookies know what will happen in the long run.
 

Bobbins

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I've slept on it and im still bitter. I know I'm being petty but it really bugs me that Trent and Robertson both pulled out of their national squads with injury yet both were both on the top of their games yesterday, seems like they never had injuries in the first place!

And we had Dier get crocked and played the game without a CM.

We don’t do ourselves any favours.
 

JayB

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I've slept on it and im still bitter. I know I'm being petty but it really bugs me that Trent and Robertson both pulled out of their national squads with injury yet both were both on the top of their games yesterday, seems like they never had injuries in the first place!
It's beyond infuriating. We allowed Son, who's been a talismanic figure for us this season, to fly halfway around the world and play 180 minutes in fucking friendlies and then were not able to start him in the match. Robertson, meanwhile, skipped out on European qualifiers for a dentist appointment then went on to put in a match-winning performance with his inch-perfect cross for their first goal and brilliant clearance on Eriksen's chance.

If other teams are going to blatantly disregard their international obligations then we need to do so as well, playing nice with international squads puts us at a massive competitive disadvantage when the likes of Liverpool, City, and United outright refuse to send their players and suffer no consequences for it.
 

Yakflange

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The criticism of Sissoko for his chance is very harsh. We all know he's the weakest passer/finisher, so why the incessant criticism of him? Van Dijk defended it well.

The only reason why that chance was created was that Sissoko spotted it and had the speed and stamina to make that run from defence at that late stage in the game, whilst everyone else was jogging out - so give him some credit for that.

Instead of criticising Sissoko for one botched chance, why aren't we criticising the rest of our more creative players who only mustered two shots on target in the entire game (including the goal)?

After the Man United game, I don't remember all of our attacking players copping this much flak for the failure to beat De Gea with about twenty chances?
 

Yakflange

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It's beyond infuriating. We allowed Son, who's been a talismanic figure for us this season, to fly halfway around the world and play 180 minutes in fucking friendlies and then were not able to start him in the match. Robertson, meanwhile, skipped out on European qualifiers for a dentist appointment then went on to put in a match-winning performance with his inch-perfect cross for their first goal and brilliant clearance on Eriksen's chance.

If other teams are going to blatantly disregard their international obligations then we need to do so as well, playing nice with international squads puts us at a massive competitive disadvantage when the likes of Liverpool, City, and United outright refuse to send their players and suffer no consequences for it.

Begrudgingly agree with this.

I really respect Pochettino for his opinion that all international players should be able to play for their countries if at all possible, and our players desire to do so, so I'd love for that to continue - but on the flip side it really messes with our own games.

Tough one...
 

ginola007

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Go back and watch some early Kane, his work from the front was unparalleled, his performances over the last two years are not at the same level of intensity or pace. (not even close)

I appreciate that as a player matures they learn that perhaps that all action style will harm them when a chance comes and they're too fucked to take it, but it was this approach to my mind that made him what he is, and he looked a much sharper player because of it, nowadays it seems his top speed is a jog and he barely runs the channels, leaving Son or Moura to do that. And is second to most things now even against slow defenders.

I feel the last two injuries and rushing back from both coupled with non stop international tournaments has hampered him badly, i just hope it's not permanent.
To be fair, the opposition gave Kane more space during his early years then now, as such he was allowed to sprint. Nowadays, there are always defenders behind him, blocking his path. He now plays deeper, and the ball leading to our goal shows that his awareness and reading of the game has improved tremendously. He could go on for another 8-10 years.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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The criticism of Sissoko for his chance is very harsh. We all know he's the weakest passer/finisher, so why the incessant criticism of him? Van Dijk defended it well.

The only reason why that chance was created was that Sissoko spotted it and had the speed and stamina to make that run from defence at that late stage in the game, whilst everyone else was jogging out - so give him some credit for that.

Instead of criticising Sissoko for one botched chance, why aren't we criticising the rest of our more creative players who only mustered two shots on target in the entire game (including the goal)?

After the Man United game, I don't remember all of our attacking players copping this much flak for the failure to beat De Gea with about twenty chances?


The criticism isn't harsh at all.

Why are people criticising him? Simple really. Us mere mortals sort of expect a professional footballer (who is paid handsomely) to be able to hit the target from 8/10 yards out.

He panicked & fucked it.

Played well besides that, but his incompetence & lack of composure dearly cost us. That's why people are criticising.
 

Yakflange

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The criticism isn't harsh at all.

Why are people criticising him? Simple really. Us mere mortals sort of expect a professional footballer (who is paid handsomely) to be able to hit the target from 8/10 yards out.

He panicked & fucked it.

Played well besides that, but his incompetence & lack of composure dearly cost us. That's why people are criticising.

It's always been the case that he can't hit a barn door, it's never changed since we signed him, it probably never will. It's not his forte. We know this. What's the point in tearing into him for messing up this chance?

Just watched the highlights again and he actually created the chance himself by winning the ball in midfield then having the awareness, speed and stamina to break up the pitch whilst everyone else was just jogging out. Yes, the finish was poor, but that was a great piece of play. That's exactly the kind of dynamism that he brings to the team that we often lack.

Most people now seem to agree that he has been one of our best and most influential players over the course of the season - look at his strengths and what he brings to the team.

What about a few minutes later when Rose was played through by Son near the penalty area - he had acres of space in a threatening position and hopelessly spooned his cross way over the bar. Are we tearing into him for that?

Remember when Son was played at full back (or wing back?) against Chelsea and gave away a penalty with a stupid challenge? He's not a defender but I don't remember him being crucified for the mistake?

As I said above, why aren't we criticising the rest of our creative talents for not creating more chances?
 
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CoopsieDeadpool

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It's always been the case that he can't hit a barn door, it's never changed since we signed him, it probably never will. It's not his forte. We know this. What's the point in tearing into him for messing up this chance?

Just watched the highlights again and he actually created the chance himself by winning the ball in midfield then having the awareness, speed and stamina to break up the pitch whilst everyone else was just jogging out. Yes, the finish was poor, but that was a great piece of play. That's exactly the kind of dynamism that he brings to the team that we often lack.

Most people now seem to agree that he has been one of our best and most influential players over the course of the season - look at his strengths and what he brings to the team.

What about a few minutes later when Rose was played through by Son near the penalty area - he had acres of space in a threatening position and hopelessly spooned his cross way over the bar. Are we tearing into him for that?

Remember when Son was played at full back (or wing back?) against Chelsea and gave away a penalty with a stupid challenge? He's not a defender but I don't remember him being crucified for the mistake?

As I said above, why aren't we criticising the rest of our creative talents for not creating more chances?

Other players are being criticised.

Eriksen, Alli, Trippier, Aurier, Lloris, Rose, Sanchez, Davies, Moura, Wanyama, Lamela, Llorente, Kane, Poch.......

They've all been criticised & questioned. They've all been called out when they've under performed or made stupid errors.

Nobody is singling out Sissoko. They're simply pointing out his shot was absolutely fucking pathetic, as was, once again, Lloris' impersonation of a goalkeeper in a big game.
 

Gassin's finest

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The mental thing is we actually played fucking well in the second half, we owned the fucking game. You cannot legislate for random goal mouth ping pong, you have to score your chances. Liverpool are bastard lucky to have got even a point out of that game, let alone all three.

Fuck them, and fuck everyone slaughtering our players.

Christ and we moan about "loyalty" when a player decides to go play somewhere else. I wouldn't fucking blame them.
 

vuzp

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Begrudgingly agree with this.

I really respect Pochettino for his opinion that all international players should be able to play for their countries if at all possible, and our players desire to do so, so I'd love for that to continue - but on the flip side it really messes with our own games.

Tough one...
And we lost Dier too because of injury. Of course we all want our country to win, but as others have said how some teams just seem to screw the system without any comeback is so annoying.
 

TURKISH69

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The mental thing is we actually played fucking well in the second half, we owned the fucking game. You cannot legislate for random goal mouth ping pong, you have to score your chances. Liverpool are bastard lucky to have got even a point out of that game, let alone all three.

Fuck them, and fuck everyone slaughtering our players.

Christ and we moan about "loyalty" when a player decides to go play somewhere else. I wouldn't fucking blame them.
And how many seasons and semi-Finals do we say we played class but end up loosing it’s a pattern every season under Poch the players are not learning clearly. We never win fuck because we’ve only one winner in our team who has been fucking awful(Lloris). We by seasoned winners we win fucking trophies, as those who havent won anything will learn how to do so from those who have. How Poch has not dropped Eriksen is laughable!!! Poch is not strong enough when it comes to dropping players who have been shite, that’s why we haven’t won anything not good enough. And the two people to blame 1st Levy fucking baffoon 2nd Poch to come out and say there’s no one he wants to strengthen the team is nothing short of laughable!!! Wank
 
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