sigurdl
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frankie probly did.. anyone who played fm would
Jol/Comolli - Like we didn't know already...
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frankie probly did.. anyone who played fm would
Spursbabe63
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I think Jol has every right to speak his mind especially after all the crap he's had to endure from the beginning of the season!
I'm still a big Martin Jol fan...I'm not forgetting what he did for the club in the short time he was there...the top 5 finishes and european football...something that we lacked before
He is entitled to have his say about how some inept DOF is handling the club and I for one want Comolli out!
I'm still a big Martin Jol fan...I'm not forgetting what he did for the club in the short time he was there...the top 5 finishes and european football...something that we lacked before
He is entitled to have his say about how some inept DOF is handling the club and I for one want Comolli out!
Rocksuperstar
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Would've been amusing to see the CCTV footage if he had raped it out of the club though :lol:
Martin kicking in the boardroom doors with an assault rifle, gunning down all but Levy and Comolli, instead choosing to smash their teeth out with the but of his gun then skull-f*ck them until they choked then bent them over and tore them a new one, before walking off with a cheque, heavy from the ink of all them zeros...
:think:
i smell a sitcom :dance:
SpurSince57
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I made a very similar crack about Sneijder. I doubt we would have got Chivu, but Distin was certainly a realistic possibility.
SpurSince57
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Jol classless? You're certainly clueless.
ShadyRay
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I've seen a lot of stories in the press criticising the board and Comolli, and making out the sun shines out of Jol's ass. I also have seen over the last couple of years that Jol is incredibly media savvy, and very good with PR. Go figure.
And I've got a lot of beef with him speaking his mind, when it's criticising the club. Shut your fucking mouth and move on you classless fool.
worcestersauce
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BOF,
I agree wih your post all the way except that I understood that we went for Petov, Pedersen and Downing, I'm still pleased we didn't get Petrov at his prices mind you.
I can't go along with Bebatov and Bale being only the best of a bad bunch though.
tRiKS
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- Jun 6, 2005
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not convinced Jol’s telling the whole truth on this one. I don’t doubt he was blocked on getting targets he wanted but Levy clearly sent out a letter and in it said no player was at the club Jol didn’t agree to. If Jol’s now saying he didn’t want them I think he has to take some responsibility in not being strong enough because according to Levy Jol at least said he did.
Also against Getafe, Jol chose one of the so called inbalancing players (Kaboul) to start alongside TG. He also gave a bench and a few cameos to Tarrabt in tead of someone like Routledge and on occasion started or used Bent as a sub over one of the others. The lack of first team use of Prince was a mystery though. I just think there are a few contradictions too many to commit myself to fully siding with Jol on this.
Also against Getafe, Jol chose one of the so called inbalancing players (Kaboul) to start alongside TG. He also gave a bench and a few cameos to Tarrabt in tead of someone like Routledge and on occasion started or used Bent as a sub over one of the others. The lack of first team use of Prince was a mystery though. I just think there are a few contradictions too many to commit myself to fully siding with Jol on this.
llamafarmer
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There's a big difference between wanting a player and not vetoing a player. We needed a CB, an LM and a DM, Jol may have been given a list of players he didn't think were suitable but knew they were better than nothing. Kaboul, Zokora, Bale.... And only Bale (converted to LM) has been the player we needed, none have had an experience to offer.
As for Boateng - why is that such a mystery? I've heard a lot of opinions that he just isn't that good. A bit like Taraabt, I think people on here have a tendancy to believe the hype, because they want to think the latest signing is brilliant! He's a prospect, not some magic solution to our plight.
I'm far from convinced by Comolli so far - he's bought some good players, but his relationship with Jol clearly didn't work. He has HIS man in now, so he should be judged on the success of the new regime imo.
As for Jol being classless - he has every right to speak his mind, his name was dragged through the mud for the last few months and when people weren't criticising him, they were patronising him as some "nice guy, shame he's shit" character. He won't milk this now, he just wants to set the record straight and fair enough I say.
Paxtonite
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After months of maintaining his dignity and not saying a bad word about the club whilst he was in their employ (going as far as to taking responsibility for all incoming transfers in order to shield the club); and after being treated the way he has been, people are now telling him to shut up, leave quietly and that this is all sour grapes.
The man has every right to say his side of the story and he has a right to be hurt by the way he has been treated and he also has a right to be hurt by senseless moronic fans who comment like this and call him names. He did more for our club than any manager in the last 15 years and comments like this are embarrasing.
Say hi to the other buffoon that you see daily in the mirror for me!
johnmc
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I agree BOF Jol did a good job for us. Now he is having his say, and good luck to him. The people who made the decisions on which players we brought in need to be highlighted and put in the spotlight. I suppose there will be more to come over the weekend. Then it really must be put to bed by all of us. My fear is that Ramos will not hang around very long if Levy/ Comolli carry on in the same manner as they appear to have done with Jol. :bang:
Barmy_in_Palmy
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Don't tell me you don't understand what class is either? At no point has he criticized the club, he has criticized Comolli, the two aren't the same thing.
Does me saying I want Comolli gone mean I'm criticizing Spurs? Course it fucking doesn't and you have to be fucking stupid to think otherwise.
You ray, ain't that fucking stupid.
idlepete
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It'd be a lot sadder if they didn't.
Me, I'd like to thank MJ for clearing this up.
barry
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I haven't forgotten what Jol's done for us. I just think the board deserve all the credit. Money players etc. I think any average manager could of got us 5th with what Jol had at his disposal.
I don't rate Jol at all. Look at Robbo's statement in the sun today about defending. That tells you all you need to know about Jol. All talk, no action
I don't rate Jol at all. Look at Robbo's statement in the sun today about defending. That tells you all you need to know about Jol. All talk, no action
ShadyRay
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I wrote this long post, but the internet fucked up and it disappeared. So I'll summarise:
Comolli is part of THFC. Saying the THFC director of football is incompetent is criticising the club imo.
You're a fan, so it's different. Fans on message bords moaning about players and club officials is one thing, but a sacked coach saying in the press that he was right and the club was wrong is completely different.
Of course he has a right to give his side of the story (even if I don't believe half of it), but that doesn't mean it's not classless. If he had class he would walk away, and prove what a great coach he is with a new team. If he's asked by reporters, he should say something like: "I don't want to discuss that, but I enjoyed my time at THFC and am looking forward to my next job wherever it may be". That would be classy, not saying how great he is and everyone else is incompetent.
The key section of Jol's comments is above. This is a very serious accusation against our club, essentially stating that players were being signed for business, rather than football, reasons. Indeed, short of saying "x was taking bungs", it's hard to imagine a more serious accusation.
Now thanks to joey's "inherent value" threads, and the contributions there of many SC members, we know the background to this. That players were signed for their long-term financial asset value, rather than because they were what the team needs now. As I say, this is an incredibly serious accusation. I can't see the same accusation being made against Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea.
So, it might be worth putting the ad hominem attacks on Jol and Comolli to one side for the moment, and start seriously discussing whether these comments are correct or not. Because if we are buying players for business, rather than football, reasons, then we will never have the success on the field we all crave.
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It's spelt "assets", yanno. Assets. :wink:
idlepete
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But Jol is a fan of Tottenham fans, not of Tottenham. As a Tottenham fan, I wanted to hear his input. I expect lots of Tottenham fans have asked for his input. I'm glad he's said something. He's done enough for the club. Now it's time for a dose of the truth.
Anyway, so long as I can say Comolli is incompetent, that's the main thing. Comolli is incompetent.
