Joshua King

kent brockman · Aug 31, 2020

WorthATry said:
Dragon:

Today king is flavor of the month on the strikers front and we are In talks , it has literally gone from ings to woods to king in a week

bournmouth set what most would consider a reasonable amount for a striker in modern terms despite kings contract length, price Under 20 and levy then offered a little over half their valuation lol

Interesting info from Dragon (posted in the ITK thread). Would certainly agree that their asking price should be pretty fair.

Bit disappointning (although not surprising) that Ings presumably proved being too expensive, as he would have been pretty much perfect IMO.

PrettyColors · Aug 31, 2020

He’s the type of player I’d feel great about throwing on with a lead or maybe in a partnership with Kane chasing a goal. Hard worker, runs everything down, and actually has good decision making in the final 3rd from what I’ve seen.

FWIW this Bournemouth forum rates him - interesting thread if you’d like to read their perspective on him https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/josh-king.11793/page-24

PrettyColors · Aug 31, 2020

PrettyColors said:
He’s the type of player I’d feel great about throwing on with a lead or maybe in a partnership with Kane chasing a goal. Hard worker, runs everything down, and actually has good decision making in the final 3rd from what I’ve seen.

FWIW this Bournemouth forum rates him - interesting thread if you’d like to read their perspective on him https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/josh-king.11793/page-24

Best Quote I’ve seen there :

Bit of a pain if it is Spurs. We’ll get the bottom end of any range we were expecting.

Ideally either Everton or West Ham want him and as a result we get an extra £10m on top of whatever we ask. At least I’m pretty sure that’s how they operate, I can’t see any other explanation for their transfer history.

GetKaned · Aug 31, 2020

PrettyColors said:
Best Quote I’ve seen there :

I am pretty sure all these folks at other clubs handling transfers see Levy on their worst nightmares

emiley heskey · Aug 31, 2020

I like both Wood and King .. King is hard worker, not a top quality finisher like Defoe obviously but his all round game in and around the box is really top class ... Those who underestimating King will be surprised ... I know I will get lot of "wtf" and "dislike" for saying it but I honestly think King is a better footballer than Lamela and If good offer comes for Lamela, I would sell him and buy both Wood and King ... I think at this moment in PL, there are lot of good quality attacking players available in lower mid table clubs and people don't watch them always so there is preconceived notion that lower mid table clubs don't have good , ball playing attackers ..

JKendall13 · Aug 31, 2020

Interesting reading through the thread on that Bournemouth site. They have a lot of time for him as a player and member of the club.

A lot of the posters though think his flexibility led to his hot and cold form because Howe played him on the left wing a lot to incorporate Wilson. Seems like he can move around a front three and play in a two striker set up which would be useful for us.

CrazyKen · Aug 31, 2020

He can be good for midtable teams etc, but not good enough for top 6 teams imo. I have been following him even before he came to England

but maybe Jose can get more out of him..time will tell!

fishhhandaricecake · Aug 31, 2020

King can hold up the ball and has pace, can play down the middle or out wide and prem experience. Not the greatest goalscorer/finisher ever but we could do a lot worse, given our budget id be ok with this if we could also bring in either a LB and/or a CM to replace Ndombele.

matty74 · Aug 31, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
King can hold up the ball and has pace, can play down the middle or out wide and prem experience. Not the greatest goalscorer/finisher ever but we could do a lot worse, given our budget id be ok with this if we could also bring in either a LB and/or a CM to replace Ndombele.

I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

RichieS · Aug 31, 2020

matty74 said:
I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

If that's the sole crierion then we aren't going to be getting anyone. People really underrate how well Son does when filling in for Kane.

spids · Aug 31, 2020

I think Levy is on fire in this window, and if Bournemouth value King at £18M, starting off at £12M is a good way to end up paying £14-15M Hojbjerg and Doherty are anything to go by. If we did get King for such a price, it could see us break even (or even make a profit) if we sell Aurier for £18M, Foyth for similar, to add to the £12M we got for KWP. We still look a little lightweight at CB/FB in terms of strength in depth, but I guess Tanganga can play anywhere across the back 4, and he is probably Davies and Doherty's back up.

LLORIS / Gazza / Hart

DOHERTY / Gedson --- TOBY / Sanchez --- DIER / Tanganga --- DAVIES / Cirkin

HØJBJERG / Sissoko --- LO CELSO / Winks / White

MOURA / Bergwijn ---- DELE / Lamela ---- SON / Sessegnon

KANE / King

fishhhandaricecake · Aug 31, 2020

matty74 said:
I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

Nice one for the info mate. Think him not being able to play on his own isn’t ideal but it’s not a Q of can he score More than son would as we need depth and if he plays up top then son and moura and Dele can play behind him and we will still be effective issue is with no back up at all then son plays up top and the attacking players will get burntout with all the games we have coming up. So we need someone and sounds like king could be an ok fit but mabye Chris wood would be slightly better but I’d imagine king will be £5-10m cheaper so that might force our hand.

Do you think Wilson would suit us better than King would?

Bosher · Aug 31, 2020

CrazyKen said:
He can be good for midtable teams etc, but not good enough for top 6 teams imo. I have been following him even before he came to England but maybe Jose can get more out of him..time will tell!

I'm pretty sure his whole career has been played in England, apart from a handful of games in Germany on loan. Signed with United as a youth.

fishhhandaricecake · Aug 31, 2020

spids said:
I think Levy is on fire in this window, and if Bournemouth value King at £18M, starting off at £12M is a good way to end up paying £14-15M Hojbjerg and Doherty are anything to go by. If we did get King for such a price, it could see us break even (or even make a profit) if we sell Aurier for £18M, Foyth for similar, to add to the £12M we got for KWP. We still look a little lightweight at CB/FB in terms of strength in depth, but I guess Tanganga can play anywhere across the back 4, and he is probably Davies and Doherty's back up.

LLORIS / Gazza / Hart

DOHERTY / Gedson --- TOBY / Sanchez --- DIER / Tanganga --- DAVIES / Cirkin

HØJBJERG / Sissoko --- LO CELSO / Winks / White

MOURA / Bergwijn ---- DELE / Lamela ---- SON / Sessegnon

KANE / King

All true and you’ve missed off Ndombele from your squad so if we are selling him Then we’d add another CM or AM or FB or CB

spids · Aug 31, 2020

matty74 said:
I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

It is not about just scoring goals though, it is about leading the line, occupying CBs, and linking play. If Kane is out I presume Mourinho wants Son / Moura / Bergwijn to be able to play in their normal WF positions, and Dele to stay in an AM role, and have a target man CF for them all to play off. Interesting to see you say that is not King's strong suit - but is he better than Wilson at it?

fishhhandaricecake · Aug 31, 2020

RichieS said:
If that's the sole crierion then we aren't going to be getting anyone. People really underrate how well Son does when filling in for Kane.

Agree. I don’t think we’ll get someone who will do as good a job as Son but the point is to get someone so Son doesn’t have to do that job and so we can keep rotating the attacking mids so they stay fresh,

DiVaio · Aug 31, 2020

RichieS said:
If that's the sole crierion then we aren't going to be getting anyone. People really underrate how well Son does when filling in for Kane.

Also King is averaging 0,36 goals per 90 while Son 0,48 per 90, this isn't that bad.

spids · Aug 31, 2020

fishhhandaricecake said:
All true and you’ve missed off Ndombele from your squad so if we are selling him Then we’d add another CM or AM or FB or CB

Good spot. I think his subconscious omission is due to the fact that in my mind he is not playing even if he stays. It would be great if either he convinces Jose he can be trusted OR we get top $$$ for him and sign suitable replacements.

spursfan77 · Aug 31, 2020

matty74 said:
I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

I think so. I thought I’d look up the stats and they actually support my view weirdly enough. Wilson comes out better than Wood too.

Japhet · Aug 31, 2020

matty74 said:
I live in Bournemouth and watch a fair bit of them. King has some qualities in that he can drift out wide mainly to the left side. He is not a target man and rarely plays upfront on his own. His ability in the air and qualities to bring other players into the game are not all that .

I really don’t think he is the answer , for what we need. If Kane was to get injured for 2 months, would he score more goals than son ? Who normally fills in for Kane ! No I don’t think he would . King’s finishing is not great he scores scrappy goals and doesn’t really create chances for himself .

Callum Wilson would definitely score more goals for us

Out of the 3 players we've been linked to, King would be my 3rd choice. All round I think he's probably the best player, but as a stand in for Kane I think he's a good way behind what Wilson or Wood bring. I know we tend to do OK with Sonny up top but if he hits one of his bad runs we really are toothless and I prefer him to play off the left anyway.

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