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What the fuck have you done with yankspurs?
Match Threads Spurs vs Burnley - Match Thread - Day 25
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Roy's Racers
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The way Burnley set-up is tailor made for this Mourinho system. They are predictable in their play, not quick on or off the ball. We were able to slow the pace of the game down, turn them when needed and our build-up play causes them problems. Unfortunately for us, not too many teams play 4-4-2 anymore.
Amo
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He fell for the Nigerian Prince thing again and gave away his passwords.
Amo
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I think they anticipated we'd turn up as our usual slow and shit selves. It was a good bet tbf. Unlucky Sean.
CrazyHeart
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We have Winks, right?
Mark_147
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Yep and alongside Vertonghen. Moral of the story get an experienced defender to play with Sanchez.
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I think this issue goes all the way back to the Burnley away game. There was a lot of discussion about the “threat” they pose physically and we would have to “adapt” to them. It was discussed by the fans, the media and seemingly by the coaching staff too. We played negative and tried to nullify them, scraped a win but played awful and that nullifying opponents just continued. With the talent we have going forward other teams should have to adjust to us and we need to carry on with the attacking intent as it helps all aspects of our game.
Kirito
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Yeah like Gareths 2nd goal was great play from ourselves to set it up and the finish was excellent - yet the first thing that was mentioned was the defensive mistakes.
Shadydan
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I cannot for the life of me understand why Roy Keane comes out with such controversial bollocks, what could the reason be?
Crack?
Same with Dier. Always looks better with Toby.
Unfortunately, I don't think Toby can play every game for the rest of the season.
Mr Pink
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Exactly. Even the way we kicked off at the start of the game had urgency, immediately seeing plenty of movement and players darting about everywhere.
That creates space as you disrupt the oppositions shape.
We've seen a complete lack of this for most of the season but today was very different.
We made Burnley look poor. Had we started the game slowly we would of seen them grow into the game and frustrate us.
glacierSpurs
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Our early lead might have significantly changed things. It put them on the back foot while it gave us massive confidence that we were so threatening in the first 30 minutes to go 3-0.
I'm very sure Burnley wouldn't suddenly be so bad like so many made up that allowed us to play well. Why it's never the way we played that controlled the opponents I don't know why. Fact was today we controlled the match so so well. You don't hear Liverpool being shit when they lost at home to Burnley.
Mark_147
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Agree but I've seen Sanchez in the champions league and premier league against top 4 teams alongside Vertonghen look very comfortable. Can't say the same about Dier.
shelfboy68
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We might not get top four agreed, but if we can go on a winning run at least we can put pressure on the others above.
C0YS
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You have this criticism from some fans from Lloris too, even when it's hard to single him out on those particular moments. Pope had a solid game, one fantastic save and two very solid ones, that you would in fairness expect top-level keepers to make.
I suspect the criticism is when, goalkeepers don't dive to make a save, as if it's a mistake to not almost save a ball. Regardless of goalkeepers always getting way more criticisms for errors than any other position, that's harsh, ultimately you can't commit before a shot, some times a strike is so good and so quick it's not even that you can properly react to it, and other times your reflex simply wont kick in as it would if it were closer to you.
But lets actually look at the goals. today. The first goal, you could criticise Pope in that he is simply following the flight of the ball and preparing to catch it. Now obviously he can't simply shift towards where Bale is likely to finish it, as if Bale chooses not to play the ball, that dribbles in, and would be a Son goal. The latter would be considered a goalkeeping mistake. I think he could have however positioned himself better to ready himself for both possibilities. Would that have changed the outcome? No.
Second Goal. I think Pope did better than what you would expect. The deflection significantly deviated the direction of the ball, and Pope didn't commit himself early, so actually managed to dive in the right direction, though obviously delayed and unable to get close to it. Many other keepers would have been rooted to the spot in those cases, unable to shift their weight towards the ball.
Thrid, no chance in hell. I don't see how he could have got closer to it. Maybe his positioning could have been slightly better, as it seems like he was ever so slightly pulled out of position by him flirting with the idea of coming for the cross, but come on. The final goal is unstoppable, grounded to the spot. I would say that this is one of those were, in my experience, your reflexes aren't able to kick in, as your body instinctively knows you're not getting close to it (think about it, if someone throws something at you if it's close to you you try and dodge or catch if it isn't you have no reflexive response) the goalkeeper also sees it very late, as Bale, uses the defender as a barrier to bend around to unsight the goalkeeper. His positioning was perfect.
Today Pope did many things well, often things that are ignored. He dominated his box, using his height to his advantage, assured in corners and cut out danger quickly by being decisive off his line. He caught practically everything and showed his solid shot-stopping abilities too. How close you get to goals isn't a particularly good way of judging a goalkeeper.
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fecka
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It was refreshing hearing our swedish pundits say that we absolutely tore them to shreds with our movement on and off the ball, changing flanks and moving the ball quickly. They did mention that Burnley's gameplan was a bit naive though (Basically it's clear they set out to press with a higher line than usual which their defenders aren't used to) but still gave us all the credit
spursfan77
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They have to make sure there is a negative tone around everything to do with us. Think back to the last time you read a positive article on us? It’s hard to remember one that’s been 100% positive.
C0YS
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Honestly, who cares what sky think, and frankly I particularly don't care about what the narrative is around Mourinho, neither one side nor the other. What happens at this club is the main thing and that's the only context in which to situate Mourinho. Today, was very good, it built on hints of improvement and we saw a top-class display. Just like one bad performance out of context shouldn't doesn't really mean much, the same should be taken with the reverse (there was a lot of positivity post West Brom too) but it's really promising stuff.
A few hours before the game I just felt bizarrely confident, I just felt that with Bale back in the team, and those attacking players, that we are capable of tonking them, and that we did. I certainly have a little more faith than this season can be salvaged compared to yesterday. But it's a long road ahead.
rupsmith
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A top analysis sir. I agree with your analysis on Pope.
My reservation on Hugo is a complete lack of command over the box. He stays on the line even when the ball is delivered directly into the 6 yard box.
I have never been a big fan of Hugo's style of keeping. It's much more reassuring when the team has a keeper who "controls" the box, rather than stays on the line and relies on reflex - there are too many uncertainties about where the ball can go after that. When there is a rock solid defence, then it probably works because its about saving the occasional shot which can creep through; but with a back 4 that does give the opposition chances, the keeper has to be a lot more controlling to add defensive stability. He lets in too much and is not getting any younger.
He has been very very poor for about two months now. Pope seems a much more commanding presence. He couldn’t do anything about any of the goals. We were simply too good.
