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The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - DEADLINE DAY 31st August 2021

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Rob

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Ings was the complete no-brainer. Those saying he's only come to start, I'd have started him. Kane, Son and Ings would have been lethal and 2 out of the 3 would still be excellent and give the other a rest occassionally.
 

Joshua shepherd

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Rob we would all like this to be better but, hopefully these guys see something in Dane in training that makes them confident he can bridge the gap if need be …Rashford and Greenwood were given chances young at UTD…lots were nervous about Kane when he was Soldados understudy ( Kane hadn't been prolific on loan but hadn't played with the leave of players he did when he broke into our first team)

Start of this window Vlahovic would have been an alien name to most, Traore wasnt on anyone’s wish list. Lauturo would have been nice. It’s not as awful as people are saying. Let’s hope January we keep the evolution going.

Thanks to you and the team for the forum ?

But we shouldn’t be going into the season with unknowns. We knew all of the problems we had last year, yet most of them still exist. We brought in a director of football to fix these things and we still managed to not improve the squad, it beggars belief.
 

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My point is that when Kane's out, we need to play Kane's backup (Son) and Son's backup (Moura, whatever), arguably both in roles that they're not best suited to. Basically, as soon as Kane's out, we're a massively weaker team, playing second-string players for that position.
But we are still a team able to beat the champions of last season without Harry.
Agree its a risky strategy but our focus is too much on Kane who is irreplaceable what we needed was to beef up the alternative
 

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Kane and Son as forwards are every bit as good as Lukaku and Werner for Chelsea’s arguably best squad in Europe.

Moura, Gil, Bergwijn could be compared to Pulisic, Ziyech and Hudson-Odoi quite favourably as well

Would have made sense to bring in Traore and maybe sacrifice Bergwijn to fund him but we are not far away squad wise in my opinion
 

Joshua shepherd

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Ings was the complete no-brainer. Those saying he's only come to start, I'd have started him. Kane, Son and Ings would have been lethal and 2 out of the 3 would still be excellent and give the other a rest occassionally.

As if he’s turning down spurs to go to Villa. He has to compete for a place there anyway with Watkins having an excellent season last year, truly unfathomable that we didn’t get him.
 

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I haven't had time to read through all the thread, but 110 pages with just a few minutes to go til the deadline closes, am I right to assume we're all happy with how things have turned out?
 

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Rob

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Rob we would all like this to be better but, hopefully these guys see something in Dane in training that makes them confident he can bridge the gap if need be

If that were the case, we wouldn't have been looking for a striker. Failing to get one then pretending we didn't want one anyway is just fooling ourselves.

Same with the defence and midfield. We identified the weaknesses and failed to fix them. We can "make the best out of a bed situation" and hope we get lucky but that's all it'll be if it does work out, lucky.
 

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Ings was the complete no-brainer. Those saying he's only come to start, I'd have started him. Kane, Son and Ings would have been lethal and 2 out of the 3 would still be excellent and give the other a rest occasionally.

Fully agree. Daka would also have been a good option, if not as much of a guaranteed starter as Ings.

Feel like we set our sights really high with the striker stuff for some reason and missed out on the obvious targets. We all said it at the time but hoped we'd pull Vlahovic or someone out of the bag but it seems there really was no back-up plan.
 

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My point is that when Kane's out, we need to play Kane's backup (Son) and Son's backup (Moura, whatever), arguably both in roles that they're not best suited to. Basically, as soon as Kane's out, we're a massively weaker team, playing second-string players for that position.

or we change formation. a back up is a requirement if we use the same system
 

wiggo24

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If that were the case, we wouldn't have been looking for a striker. Failing to get one then pretending we didn't want one anyway is just fooling ourselves.

Same with the defence and midfield. We identified the weaknesses and failed to fix them. We can "make the best out of a bed situation" and hope we get lucky but that's all it'll be if it does work out, lucky.

In a way this makes me feel a bit more optimistic given that the majority of good things to happen to the club in the last decade have basically been luck when we're about to collapse.
 

Joshua shepherd

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He cost £25m and is on £120k p/w while also being 29 and injury prone. We needed a striker this window but not sure he was the answer.

You’re right, not sure why I thought it was 12 lol but even still. A proven premier league striker that fits the home grown criteria is seriously a no brainer. 29 is only a year older than H, yes he’s had his injury problems but he’s always come back fitter and sharper.
 

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Isn't it possible that Levy set a budget, Nuno wanted to prioritise Traore over a back up striker, Paratici came up with a plan to sell Bergwijn to partly fund Traore, but the price Wolves demanded would still have taken us considerably over budget so they beg Levy to make it happen anyway and he says not a chance in hell. That scenario also fits with the ITK.
 
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