The Daily ITK Discussion Thread - 25th January 2022

keeole · Jan 28, 2022

Meltdown well and truly underway but come on, how many people seriously thought we would get a free run at Diaz and sign him?
You have to be realistic, Liverpool play in CL every season, pay crazy wages and have every chance at winning siverware, having a World Class stadium, training facilities and manager does not put the best players in football in our team.
It is also January which is difficult to get players of high calibre, we just have to keep faith and hope that our rivals for top 4 don't strengthen, even if we signed nobody we can still compete for 4th with our current team but will need everyone to stay fit.
We have 3 days to go yet lets just sit back and see what we can do.

YB123 · Jan 28, 2022

keeole said:
Meltdown well and truly underway but come on, how many people seriously thought we would get a free run at Diaz and sign him?
You have to be realistic, Liverpool play in CL every season, pay crazy wages and have every chance at winning siverware, having a World Class stadium, training facilities and manager does not put the best players in football in our team.
It is also January which is difficult to get players of high calibre, we just have to keep faith and hope that our rivals for top 4 don't strengthen, even if we signed nobody we can still compete for 4th with our current team but will need everyone to stay fit.
We have 3 days to go yet lets just sit back and see what we can do.

Vlahovic, Luis Diaz, Gosens, Guimares, Coutinho etc

Lets stop this no high calibre/good business in Jan, always difficult to do, nonsense.

yiddo_4eva · Jan 28, 2022

MindOverMatter said:
Surely if Mendez keeps on doing this paratici is going to get more annoyed and will end up ruining his relationship with us?

At this stage, I can't even think of any time where anything with Mendez has actually benefitted us and therefore there is no relationship to be ruined

Stoof · Jan 28, 2022

YB123 said:
Vlahovic, Luis Diaz, Gosens, Guimares, Coutinho etc

Lets stop this no high calibre/good business in Jan, always difficult to do, nonsense.

Difficult doesn't mean impossible. It means difficult. I don't think that's nonsense or even slightly inaccurate.

danny32 · Jan 28, 2022

Need to go for targets that fit our status.
Welcome:
Keane Lewis-Potter
Ollie Tanner
Toby Savin

YB123 · Jan 28, 2022

Stoof said:
Difficult doesn't mean impossible. It means difficult. I don't think that's nonsense or even slightly inaccurate.

Fair point, worded it poorly. However it appears other clubs are having FAR much less difficulty doing these deals.

djhotspur · Jan 28, 2022

YB123 said:
Vlahovic, Luis Diaz, Gosens, Guimares, Coutinho etc

Lets stop this no high calibre/good business in Jan, always difficult to do, nonsense.

Yes but there’s reasons the latter 4 we weren’t in for and didn’t want. Vlahovic went to juventus.

Aay_Jay_Dee · Jan 28, 2022

Any ITK on a RWB? I so hope we focus on that position now

C1w8 · Jan 28, 2022

aussiespursguy said:
So you think as a club and a manager Spurs and Conte are a 2/10?
Because that's what you said!

We're somewhere significantly below 10 which is part reason all our targets are choosing elsewhere...put whatever number you want on it 4 or 5 or 6 if you must, the point is the same...on the football scale im not sure amrabat is as high as 6, and thats out front runner signing right now....

wadewill · Jan 28, 2022

danny32 said:
Need to go for targets that fit our status.
Welcome:
Keane Lewis-Potter
Ollie Tanner
Toby Savin

I agreed with the sentiment not the names by the way

We need to go back to the Berbatov/Modric days of going for these players 6 months before they are on the radar of the big clubs, not 6 months after when we then have no chance of getting them.

Wish we had some ITK's to post ITK to discuss in the ITK thread

Stoof · Jan 28, 2022

Aay_Jay_Dee said:
Any ITK on a RWB? I so hope we focus on that position now

We don't get public ITK any more because they're all understandably terrified of the pitchfork baying masses. So no.

YB123 · Jan 28, 2022

djhotspur said:
Yes but there’s reasons the latter 4 we weren’t in for and didn’t want. Vlahovic went to juventus.

Not talking about if we wanted them or not, i'm merely saying other clubs don't appear to be having big issues bringing in high calibre players.

Aay_Jay_Dee · Jan 28, 2022

Stoof said:
We don't get public ITK any more because they're all understandably terrified of the pitchfork baying masses. So no.

Oh. This day just gets better and better

poc · Jan 28, 2022

Pekoni said:
Being negative also doesn't mean that you should fill up every thread with your endless negative posts.

There seem to be just as many tiring posts moaning about the moaners, heres another one now moaning about the moaner moaning about moaners moaning. If you just dont post about it maybe they wont post or there will be half the posts to trawl through looking for actual ITK.

As for any ITK not posting because of negativity that's up to them but the negativity was never at them so I dont see how it is "driving them away" as has been moaned about in other pointless posts.

Lastly and more importantly on the L.Diaz situation have any of our ITK actually confirmed a deal is dead or is it all media talk still atm?

aussiespursguy · Jan 28, 2022

YB123 said:
Fair point, worded it poorly. However it appears other clubs are having FAR much less difficulty doing these deals.

Again,
Has Luis Diaz SIGNED for Liverpool yet?
Do we have any concrete proof he is?
Powder dry.
And even then it was always a longshot.
The days of keeping a deal quiet are long gone unfortunately.

Wig · Jan 28, 2022

YB123 said:
Vlahovic, Luis Diaz, Gosens, Guimares, Coutinho etc

Lets stop this no high calibre/good business in Jan, always difficult to do, nonsense.

It's not the best indicator of difficulty, when three of the five deals you've mentioned - Vlahovic, Diaz and Guimares - are not even finalised.

Maxtremist · Jan 28, 2022

YB123 said:
Fair point, worded it poorly. However it appears other clubs are having FAR much less difficulty doing these deals.

You mean the bigger clubs with more money and more stature than us? Who are playing in the top levels of Europe and winning titles? Yeah... of course they are.

The only slight exceptions are Newcastle and Villa, but Newcastle have bucket loads of money now so can and are throwing money at everything (and even then have had plenty of rejections). Then Villa have got Coutinho (who by all accounts has been SHOCKING for the past few seasons) and even then, without Gerrard at the helm they don't get him.

Not denying that this window has been pretty dire from the looks of things, and we really should strengthen. But we have had generally positive ITK saying business will be done. We have had ITK saying our deadwood are still likely to leave. We have had ITK saying Summer is the important one.

We then also have to be realistic with what the hell 'back Conte' means or even how a transfer works. Like okay, give Conte a big ass cheque book to sign whoever he wants... but what happens when the player doesn't want us or isn't fully committed to us or wants to hear other options? Do we sign bodies just for the sake of it? Is that backing Conte?

If Conte has given us a list of 10 names but those 10 don't want to come to us... then what?

This has been a bad window for us. I'm not ignoring that. But (whilst patterns may suggest it) so many seem to act like it's all our fault. And it probably is... for just not being as big a club as we think we are.

Stoof · Jan 28, 2022

poc said:
There seem to be just as many tiring posts moaning about the moaners, heres another one now moaning about the moaner moaning about moaners moaning. If you just dont post about it maybe they wont post or there will be half the posts to trawl through looking for actual ITK.

As for any ITK not posting because of negativity that's up to them but the negativity was never at them so I dont see how it is "driving them away" as has been moaned about in other pointless posts.

Lastly and more importantly on the L.Diaz situation have any of our ITK actually confirmed a deal is dead or is it all media talk still atm?

It's not overly difficult to imagine it coming back to them though? The last thing you would do at the moment if you knew something would be share it; the atmosphere in here is like that stupid game at an arcade I watched someone on TikTok play for about 25 minutes with the balloon filling with air right next to a load of spikes. It's literally at bursting point. They don't want to be the air that sends everyone into burst-ville meltdown.

luRRka · Jan 28, 2022

poc said:
There seem to be just as many tiring posts moaning about the moaners, heres another one now moaning about the moaner moaning about moaners moaning. If you just dont post about it maybe they wont post or there will be half the posts to trawl through looking for actual ITK.

As for any ITK not posting because of negativity that's up to them but the negativity was never at them so I dont see how it is "driving them away" as has been moaned about in other pointless posts.

Lastly and more importantly on the L.Diaz situation have any of our ITK actually confirmed a deal is dead or is it all media talk still atm?

It's obviously dead. You don't need itk to tell you that. Every reputable media source is saying he is going to Liverpool.

Trix said he can't be bothered to wade through the negativity which is why he isn't going to bother posting any more (until window is closed). It's not because it's aimed at itk it's just cos constant negativity isn't good for mental wellbeing

Pekoni · Jan 28, 2022

poc said:
There seem to be just as many tiring posts moaning about the moaners, heres another one now moaning about the moaner moaning about moaners moaning. If you just dont post about it maybe they wont post or there will be half the posts to trawl through looking for actual ITK.

As for any ITK not posting because of negativity that's up to them but the negativity was never at them so I dont see how it is "driving them away" as has been moaned about in other pointless posts.

Lastly and more importantly on the L.Diaz situation have any of our ITK actually confirmed a deal is dead or is it all media talk still atm?

Nah, they'll still post, but I agree that there's no point in filling this thread in even more messages not considering ITK. I'll trust the mods will do their job when they bring out the banhammer.

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