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easley91 · Feb 16, 2023

I'm not completely against Poch returning as he gave me so much joy when watching this club. I just hope it all works out if it is him.

delawarespur · Feb 16, 2023

I feel super strongly about waiting until the summer to make a decision. The manager itself honestly doesn’t really matter at this point. Nothing would scream panic and a lack of a clear plan more than getting a new guy in the middle of the season. If I thought the new manager bounce would give us a much stronger chance of success this season maybe, but I don’t. Wait until the summer, and take a few weeks or a month to really sit down and formulate a plan for the direction of the club. Once that plan is in place, get the new guy that fits with the plan and who is informed of the plan. That could end up being Poch (even though I’d dislike that), or that could be any other manager. Please I beg the club just takes their time and doesn’t just keep changing manager styles without direction. A club of this stature should already have an overarching philosophy so that there is a very clear type of manager and playing style that they stick to every time change in personnel is needed. Refreshing the playing staff and manager should be seamless because the philosophy and plan dictates everything. That clearly isn’t the case at this club. So take your time and make it the case and really form a strong consensus on how the club should proceed in the long term. Make a plan, hire managers/sign players who fit within the plan, and most importantly, DON’T RIP UP THE PLAN AT THE FIRST SIGN OF ADVERSITY.

Trix · Feb 16, 2023

Goobers said:
In whihc case why not just sign him up now and the do the necessary paper work and compensation for Conte and his team ? What is holding that process up ?

Because once again there is no clear foreward thinking, or plan in place.

For the love of Spurs · Feb 16, 2023

Spurzinho said:
Part of the problem for me is that there just aren't a whole bunch of exciting, available coaches out there. Nagelsmann would be awesome but he won't come. Potter would have been intriguing but not now he's been down the road. With some of the other suggestions language would be a significant problem. The De Zerbi fella seems to be doing quite well but how long's it been? Has he done enough to think that he could transfer it here? I dunno. This is the strength of the Poch candidacy. In the absence of any truly outstanding candidate Poch represents a bit of stability, a bit of familiarity and a bit of positivity. Every appointment is such a gamble. There are no guarantees. We saw with Nuno how quickly a manager's authority can collapse. If not Poch then we need someone who's going to come in and rev everyone up and convince the lads that they are a team capable of making the CL and pushing on to challenge for the title. Poch had that in spades.

That’s a good point. We had an opportunity to get Ten Hag and dropped it, same as Potter. It does seem a bit limited.

Jody · Feb 16, 2023

Spurzinho said:
Part of the problem for me is that there just aren't a whole bunch of exciting, available coaches out there. Nagelsmann would be awesome but he won't come. Potter would have been intriguing but not now he's been down the road. With some of the other suggestions language would be a significant problem. The De Zerbi fella seems to be doing quite well but how long's it been? Has he done enough to think that he could transfer it here? I dunno. This is the strength of the Poch candidacy. In the absence of any truly outstanding candidate Poch represents a bit of stability, a bit of familiarity and a bit of positivity. Every appointment is such a gamble. There are no guarantees. We saw with Nuno how quickly a manager's authority can collapse. If not Poch then we need someone who's going to come in and rev everyone up and convince the lads that they are a team capable of making the CL and pushing on to challenge for the title. Poch had that in spades.

Gallardo needs to be included in any list like that. Him or Poch with plenty of Ossie tweets to follow - happy days ??

Goobers · Feb 16, 2023

Trix said:
Because once again there is no clear foreward thinking, or plan in place.

Ah

dirtyh · Feb 16, 2023

May as well discuss the manager after poch or even after the one after poch. Until levy fucks off or changes his mo everything is doomed to fail anyway

sidford · Feb 16, 2023

Rout-Ledge said:
Will the first manager to compete a full season for us since Poch in 2018-19 be…Poch in 2023-24.

Jaysus that's some indictment of the club isn't it

Jody · Feb 16, 2023

Trix said:
Because once again there is no clear foreward thinking, or plan in place.

I have to disagree. Levy has a very clear plan - to make as much money as possible whilst pretending to be interested in winning something.

And it’s working for him.

Misfit · Feb 16, 2023

Might as well be Poch for a brief return of the feel-good factor before it ends horribly and tarnishes his overall time with the club. I mean WTF else can we look forward to? This club simply isn't going to seriously compete for anything under the current ownership. It's had a couple of chances to kick on if it wanted and balked both times. It is what it is.

Crumbs is all we'll ever get.

For the love of Spurs · Feb 16, 2023

dirtyh said:
May as well discuss the manager after poch or even after the one after poch. Until levy fucks off or changes his mo everything is doomed to fail anyway

Of course but that this point it is just injection of short term excitement with Conte seemingly off. We might get some high press football but your right without cultural change we are buggered.

For the love of Spurs · Feb 16, 2023

Misfit said:
Might as well be Poch for a brief return of the feel-good factor before it ends horribly and tarnishes his overall time with the club. I mean WTF else can we look forward to? This club simply isn't going to seriously compete for anything under the current ownership. It's had a couple of chances to kick on if it wanted and balked both times. It is what it is.

Crumbs is all we'll ever get.

This is what I fear, Poch does well for 18 months then it turns. Poch’s carries the can for Levy/board fuck up. It’s insane how we break managers.

Phil_2.0 · Feb 16, 2023

I am not a huge fan of Levy but not sure how hes meant to plan for Conte losing his gallbladder?

mil1lion · Feb 16, 2023

pablo73 said:
My biggest worry if Poch comes back is that our record of buying players while he was here was absolutely abysmal.

Also, the idea that the likes of Dier, Lloris, Davies, Winks, N'Dombele etc will get clean slates yet again just thoroughly depresses me.

Having said that there are a lot of potential upsides, it would be great to have a manager who actually looks like he wants to be here for a start.

Surely getting Poch back means there is no clean slate?

Ghost Hardware · Feb 16, 2023

thebenjamin said:
If Poch had done what he'd done with us with another club we'd want him

Would we still if that thing he did was 5ish years ago? I don’t think so tbh. Personally I think the reason people want him here is because of nostalgia, we remember how good things were for a period of time. Probably the best we ever were. But that was a long time ago. If that golden period was at another club personally I think we wouldn’t be that enthusiastic,

Jody · Feb 16, 2023

Phil_2.0 said:
I am not a huge fan of Levy but not sure how hes meant to plan for Conte losing his gallbladder?

He should have stayed out of it and left it to Paratici.

mil1lion · Feb 16, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
yeh if he had gotten West Ham, Newcastle or Everton 4 CL spots and a CL final then yep.

Issue is can he repeat the magic and will Levy/ENIC back him or do they just see him as a way of covering their arses.

Poch needs hard working young players to make his system work effectively. That means hard choices with the likes of Son, Dier, Davies even Hojbjerg and Kane. Will the club properly buy into and also will Poch accept a DoF and scoutings helping to drive the squad building.

Hojbjerg? He's like mid 20s and one of our fittest players, he's also one of our best pressers.

Japhet · Feb 16, 2023

mil1lion said:
I actually think it's not the worst situation if we get Poch in now. With the takeover talks ongoing we can get Poch in and see out the season. We can get a good idea whether he can get us playing again. Hopefully we can get new owners in a few months and then they can decide whether to stick with him based on how we're shaping up.

One thing I want most however is Paratici or another in charge of transfers. Poch just needs to identify what he needs and leave it to him to get them in. I can actually see this team not far off good enough for Poch but we still need to sort the defence for him. Funny if he brings Lo Celso back though.

No way he'd come in til the end of the season and then re-assess. He, like anyone else, would want a decent length contract.

jimbo · Feb 16, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Would we still if that thing he did was 5ish years ago? I don’t think so tbh. Personally I think the reason people want him here is because of nostalgia, we remember how good things were for a period of time. Probably the best we ever were. But that was a long time ago. If that golden period was at another club personally I think we wouldn’t be that enthusiastic,

Like you, I'd prefer Gallardo because I think he could really do something here. But, as another poster pointed out, it might be best if we get #PochBack out of our system now otherwise it will likely hang over every manager we might appoint whenever we hit a rough patch.

I guess either Poch will come in and it will work out (I'm sceptical about that) and we'll be happy, aside from the absolute waste of the last 3 years. Or it won't work out and we'll just have wasted 4 years to be in the exact same position we were the first time he left but able to move on fully (provided something finally changes at the top).

mil1lion · Feb 16, 2023

Japhet said:
No way he'd come in til the end of the season and then re-assess. He, like anyone else, would want a decent length contract.

I mean any new owners make that decision. He would get a contract but they could pay it off if they're not happy when they arrive. It's normal for new owners to get their own manager even if they pay the compensation to sack the current one.

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