Next Manager Watch

Timberwolf · Mar 24, 2023

RuskyM said:
Have no real take on Nagelsmann's season (I do know his sacking of the goalkeeping coach was very unpopular) but, aside from whether he'd actually want to be here, have any managers succeeded in a job taken immediately after a sacking? Management is an incredibly draining thing and to be sacked is quite chastening: I can imagine you need some time to decompress and evaluate what went wrong.

Yeah, plus he's also "failed" for the first time in his career, and on the biggest stage. After years of non-stop upward trajectory and being anointed as the golden boy of German management, being kicked out of Bayern might really hurt him - especially given he wasn't expecting it.

People react in different ways so, who knows, maybe he'll want to jump straight back on the wagon? But I wouldn't be remotely surprised if he at least waited until the summer to take a break, lick his wounds and think carefully about his next step.

the yid · Mar 24, 2023

easley91 said:
Nagelsmann has managed at the highest level already at 35. He's perfect. Do what we can to bring him in, but don't blame Levy if he says no to us.

If he says no to us it's because of the state of the club currently pal.

For the love of Spurs · Mar 24, 2023

35 years old. Crazy what he has done so young.

Wadec · Mar 24, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
Yeah, considering he found after twitter did I doubt his mind will remotely be on his next job especially considering how things went sideways at BM.

The only slim chance he moves on now is him being young and a little egotistical maybe if Levy comes in with a very attractive offer then maybe he might move straight away. I’d think the fact we were talking to him in the past would help us in this regard as he would have already looked at us as a potential new job. Still I think it’s very unlikely he moves now.

I agree with this to be fair.

A lot will depend on how he reacts, I think most people would take time and not rush into another job. Not long until the end of season so can certainly see him waiting until then.

As you said it's a slim chance he wants to jump straight into work. The only thing that makes me think he may be slightly open to this is there were rumours he would leave at the end of the season. He would have surely known this so had maybe started thinking ahead anyway.

Thay being said, I think Levy will have to play a blinder to bring him in now or get him to commit to joining in the summer. I have no doubts Levy will try though, out of all the options we've seen linked he is the one I could see Levy offering big money and a long contract to.

Hotspur33 · Mar 24, 2023

My No.1
Poch

Exciting
Nagelsmann
gallardo

Mad but also exciting
Kompany
Mason
Carrick

meh, give them a chance
Postecoglou
Do Zerbi

Not feeling it
Enrique
Glasner
Franks
Amorim

easley91 · Mar 24, 2023

the yid said:
If he says no to us it's because of the state of the club currently pal.

Or it could be because he wants to wait for another job, say Madrid? Or he might just want a break. It's not always don't down to us and Levy.

arunspurs · Mar 24, 2023

What are the odds Chelsea sack Potter & go all in on Nagelsmann ?

I am sure they are thinking about it… so we better move on if we want him. Him opting to come is another matter

Johnny J · Mar 24, 2023

TOLBINY said:
The one thing we haven't tried is to appoint a proven winner and only buy him the actual players he asks for.

Enough with the "proven winner" managers, not least because Levy simply has not and will never buy a "win now" team they need.

And this isn't the only thing we've tried, at least since Poch. We should get a younger project manager with fresh ideas and build with them over several seasons. Nagelsmann would be perfect.

Japhet · Mar 24, 2023

It really isn't a bad time to be looking for a new manager is it?

Of course the 'Daniel Levy factor' isn't in our favour.

Hotspur33 · Mar 24, 2023

Is Nagelsmann likely to use our academy players? Or do we need to be making lots of signings like Udogie?

mattspur1986 · Mar 24, 2023

spurs9 said:
Her follow up tweet.

the other side of the argument I guess?

For the love of Spurs · Mar 24, 2023

Hotspur33 said:
My No.1
Poch

Exciting
Nagelsmann
gallardo

Mad but also exciting
Kompany
Mason
Carrick

meh, give them a chance
Postecoglou
Do Zerbi

Not feeling it
Enrique
Glasner
Franks
Amorim

I would be similar.

My No.1
Naglesmann

Exciting
Poch
gallardo

Mad but also exciting
Kompany
Carrick

meh, give them a chance
Postecoglou
Do Zerbi
Mason (more sentimental than anything)

Not feeling it
Enrique
Glasner
Franks
Amorim

Johnny J · Mar 24, 2023

mattspur1986 said:
the other side of the argument I guess?

Flick had problems with the board and specifically sporting director too. I'm sure Nagelsmann has an ego but I'm not convinced you can always judge managers by their performance at places like PSG or Bayern. They're such unique situations.

Dakes · Mar 24, 2023

Bing said:
Just to play devil's advocate...what exactly does that plan look like? Should the Board have been reaching out to Poch In Jan and saying "just in case Conte throws a wobbler in March are you ready to take over within three days"?

I know it seems like it happened ages ago but it's been 4 days!

Bayern - Nagelsmann - Tuchel

Hotspur33 · Mar 24, 2023

For the love of Spurs said:
I would be similar.

My No.1
Naglesmann

Exciting
Poch
gallardo

Mad but also exciting
Kompany
Carrick

meh, give them a chance
Postecoglou
Do Zerbi
Mason (more sentimental than anything)

Not feeling it
Enrique
Glasner
Franks
Amorim

We can be friends

Oh Teddy Teddy · Mar 24, 2023

RuskyM said:
Have no real take on Nagelsmann's season (I do know his sacking of the goalkeeping coach was very unpopular) but, aside from whether he'd actually want to be here, have any managers succeeded in a job taken immediately after a sacking? Management is an incredibly draining thing and to be sacked is quite chastening: I can imagine you need some time to decompress and evaluate what went wrong.

Klopp is the closest I can think; but I think someone pointed out there was around 4 months in between Dortmund + Liverpool – and it took him years to get Liverpool on track.

Spurzinho · Mar 24, 2023

It all sounds a bit Cloughy at Leeds. A mega club with a lot of vested interests in desperate need of a clear out and reboot and a young, cocky manager comes in and the establishment are just not having it.

Timberwolf · Mar 24, 2023

arunspurs said:
What are the odds Chelsea sack Potter & go all in on Nagelsmann ?

I am sure they are thinking about it… so we better move on if we want him. Him opting to come is another matter

I don't think Chelsea are going to sack Potter simply because Nagelsmann is on the market.

Boehly's staked so much of his reputation on Potter succeeding and he's finally got them on a decent(ish) run of form - I just don't see him pulling the plug now.

I could see Chelsea going for him in the summer if Potter has a bad end to the season but I'd be very surprised if they went for him right away.

Karol · Mar 24, 2023

Dakes said:
Bayern - Nagelsmann - Tuchel

Bayern - Nagelsman - Touché :cautious:

Archibald&Crooks · Mar 24, 2023

I keep seeing variations on the idea that the next manager needs to be given time. And quite right too, the trouble is, we don't do that as a club or on here do we. Not really. The idea of being given 'time' is roughly a third to a half a season before the footballing intelligentsia on here start bitching that he's had enough time and we should be doing this or that. We need to change that. Half a season, one season, a season and a half, that's not being given time, a genuine process and philosophy that's also backed up with action by the owners will take longer than that and if it comes sooner, that's great. We need to understand this and it needs to be reflected in how we react when things go sour from time to time.

Whoever the next patsy is will, as usual, divide SC to the point where each match thread and the manager watch thread, will yo-yo with toxicity and support, a constant stream of "see I was right" posts from each side depending on every result and people so entrenched and invested in having been right to begin with that the place will be a festering pit of dissatisfaction, vitriol and spite toward each other, the players and the manager. We need to change that too.

Meh, the disciples of the knee will read this and think fuck you you silly old twat

What a fucking grand waste of time this post has been

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