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Arsenal vs Tottenham: NLD Match Thread

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I think it's valid to say Dean affected the result, anyone with an ounce of sense can see Spurs didn't play up to the usual level we might have come to expect, but pointing out a glaring mistake by one of this countries supposed top refs is okay.
 

yankspurs

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I think it's valid to say Dean affected the result, anyone with an ounce of sense can see Spurs didn't play up to the usual level we might have come to expect, but pointing out a glaring mistake by one of this countries supposed top refs is okay.
He did not affect the result. Spurs not bothering to play affected the result. You cannot blame the ref when we did not bother showing up.
 
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He did not affect the result. Spurs not bothering to play affected the result. You cannot blame the ref when we did not bother showing up.
Can't you wallow somewhere else?

He did affect the result, game altering decision. It's not hard to admit.
 

TheChosenOne

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Stop using the ref as an excuse for our defeat. The ref made two mistakes. We made 90mins worth.

It was an embarrassment, wrong team selection, unfit players, pathetic effort from all from the 1st minute to the last.

And against those ****s. Fucking fuming.

Mike Dean only needed to make the first error, the 'non-shirt pull' foul given.

This was a game changer.
 

riggi

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Who could you see doing this in the dressing room? Jan or dier for me...

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Ionman34

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He did not affect the result. Spurs not bothering to play affected the result. You cannot blame the ref when we did not bother showing up.
Of course you can, that is agenda driven and not taking into account ALL variables.

No one disputes we were well below par, but goals change games and the way they are played. The poor decisions gave them the opportunity to change their approach and nullify an already lacklustre forward line. We’ve played poorly and won before because we were still in the game. The poor decisions took that away.

They are not the sole reason we lost, as you say our own performance was the greater reason, but to dismiss the poor officiating as having no effect is to consciously ignore contributing factors.
 

Sweetsman

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Poch disagrees witn the obvious regarding Onomah. Onomah is not an AM, contrary to Poch's belief. He is a CM
Funnily enough, you're not employed as manager, which must be some colossal mistake by Levy, almost like Napoleon deciding to attack the Russians.
 

gerishep

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Some on here just run after whatever stick the tabloid press chucks.

Well, Shearer and Neville were on, both agreed that the first goal was from a foul that didn't happen and that it was offside. For the second, Shearer did not think it was offside; I think in real time, it was tight, but Hugo would have saved it. You then had the usual crap about us not winning away. Here're the caveats, as far as I'm concerned: the losses at ManU and Goonerville were prior to major, decisive games in the CL; we had major players missing, and they played to their maximum; the whole game was turned on that first goal.
Has anyone been watching Sunday Supplement? It's good to see Samuel sitting close to his glove puppet, Ashton, but the line-up is a disaster as far as Spurs is concerned. What did the pricks have to say? They haven't mentioned Sherwood for the Wales job, but thought Giggs should be manager for his country; but this is Giggs who always pulled out of Wales games.
I note that Samuel is eating a pain au chocolat, not the best thing for a man of his corpulence to be choosing. Just for a change, they are slagging off Silva, because he's a foreign manager. Still no mention of Sherwood for Everton.

"Spurs have won 4 of their last 86 games away to Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea"

What about our other 82 losses and draws.
 

Cornpattbuck

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I think it’s worth remembering that this Arsenal team is the one that prevented Chelsea winning the double last year, a Chelsea team that put virtually everyone to the sword last season. When they’re up for it, they’re capable of putting in a high quality performance. Unfortunately we got them on one of their “can be bothered” days. Their problem is that they’re flakey and inconsistent. In this game, it appears that Wenger managed to impress on them the importance of a NLD. It’s been a complaint, from both fans and pundits, that this goon team didn’t understand the importance, well they got it yesterday. Credit needs to go where it is due too, tactically Wenger got it spot on and exposed our weaknesses, help from the officials notwithstanding.

Sorry, but Chelsea were epically shit in that game and suffering from their dumbarse John Terry leaving party.

City also left their shooting boots at home in the semi and otherwise would have walked passed them. Even a few Arsenal fans I know were stunned they won that cup last year.

Anyway, bad day at the office for us with a weakened squad.
 

Sweetsman

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"Spurs have won 4 of their last 86 games away to Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea"

What about our other 82 losses and draws.
I'm not sure what you're trying to show here apart from the fact that you can do basic arithmetic.
 

worcestersauce

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Spurs fans really need to stop this. It's not Dean's fault we were crap. It's not his fault we couldnt hold on to the ball, attack, or play defense. It's not his fault we were getting skinned alive all game. We lost fair and square. Arsenal came to play and they showed heart. They wanted it. Spurs did not show up, did not want it and showed a disturbing lack of heart.
Oh bugger off if you're going to be sensible about it, what you say is true but I reserve the right to my senseless rant:)
As I posted before, they were up for it in fact they played out of their skins whilst we were sub par through injuries but also I think mentally and I do believe that there was a delicate balance in the game which Mike Dean tipped, ultimately decisively.
It just annoyed me that one player who was bloody good and didn't deserve that was Davinson Sanchez and he was penalised through nothing more than the referee being completely totally and utterly wrong.
 

SpursDave88

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Two Spanish men sharing a joke. How very dare they!

"Any player coming to Spurs whether he's a big signing or just a ground staff boy must be dedicated to the game and to the club. He must be prepared to work at his game. He must never be satisfied with his last performance, and he must hate losing."

We have just lost the NLD. This dickhead doesn't look upset...he clearly does not care about losing, although his job is to win football matches. We need to get wasters like this out of the club.
 

gerishep

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I'm not sure what you're trying to show here apart from the fact that you can do basic arithmetic.
Yeah I was pretty good at maths! But my point I was asking was that just 2 matches were highlighted, the other 80 would have been another load of hotchpotch of excuses by various other people over the years. The thing is we just don't perform away against these teams. The figures can't be disputed whatever the excuses. I along with everyone else are fed up with excuses, it's going to take the rest of my life to see these figures even out.
 

kr1978

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He did not affect the result. Spurs not bothering to play affected the result. You cannot blame the ref when we did not bother showing up.

As poor as we were there is a genuine shout for that decision affecting the result. I said when we were watching it that we just needed to get through to half time at 0-0 and then we had a chance for Poch to try and sort things out a bit, unfortunately we were 2-0 down and it was too late (with the attitude and fitness levels that were out there)
 
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