Seemingly for the last season and a bit, every time these two play together in the middle, we seem to lose.
What I would like to know is what percentage of games have we won with these two in the same team.
Just a hunch that the number of games won with these two in the same team is...
Wednesday sees Spurs take on the 'mighty' Newcastle - and the man who was sacked after a decade at the club - Mr Notepad himself Chris Hughton.
This is a major test - on and off the pitch - for Ramos.
The result is one thing, but should we lose, would Ramos' defeat to Hughton have an impact...
Anyone see this in the paper the other day?
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A survey by Top Up TV asked 1000 fans to pick the top misfits ever
so supporters have chosen the worst 11 players in Premier League history.
....................................Massimo Taibi...
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