A Decade Under Levy

[Kyras]

And we're in the last eight in Europe going to the Bernabeu. :beer:

(They took a controlling stake in December 2000, and sacked Graham ten years and two days ago.)

He brought in arguably the club's biggest legend as manager in Hoddle, and when it didn't work, he took around a year to sort out a team of Santini, Arnesen and Jol. Since then we can't really have many complaints. We've obviously had set backs but for the last decade (maybe the last seven years) it's just been one big rise.

Well done Daniel Levy :clap:

 

[Lilbaz]

I know it's soppy and impossible to answer, but if we could have signed Harry 10 years ago would we be in a better position now or would we have missed out on the players Comolli/ Arnesen signed?

 

[tRiKS]

I know it's soppy and impossible to answer, but if we could have signed Harry 10 years ago would we be in a better position now or would we have missed out on the players Comolli/ Arnesen signed?

NO. Santini, Jol and Ramos were all important journey's to go on. When Rednapp hands over to Mourhino, Levy's masterpiece will be completed.

 

[There's always next year]

If you look at the 10 years under Sugar and then compare that of the 10 years under Levy. I know which one i'd fire!

 

[Bobbins]

Yeah but he's only in it for the money.

God I'm glad I eventually got banned from COYS. That was literally every other post in that place.

 

[OmarsComing]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/1225092.stm

 

[Blockbuster]

the extra income from the EPL has helped too ;-)

 

[PT]

Alan Sugar's personal fortune from AMSTRAD wffwctively rescued THFC from going to the Administrators, notwithstanding his persistence in taking on the FA to nullify the 12 point penalty and the £1.5m fine imposed, and winning in the courts.

Yet he admitted he was naive in his footballing decisions as caretaker of our famous Club and in the end was relieved to back away when ENIC came in with an offer which leaves Sugar with a seat in the Directors box as a fan not a Chairman.

Ultimately, football is cyclic, as proven by many famous eras attributed to one particular club or other - Spurs golden days being entrenched in the late fifties and early sixties.

Our recent journey has swept up new supporters within the latest qualifying generation and the demand for instant success on the park is more apparent than ever. The real question is will our leadership see beyond the success of this season to push on and establish Tottenham as heir apparents to the second decade of the 21st century's Premiership record books?

 

[Batspur]

Alan Sugar's personal fortune from AMSTRAD wffwctively rescued THFC from going to the Administrators, notwithstanding his persistence in taking on the FA to nullify the 12 point penalty and the £1.5m fine imposed, and winning in the courts.

Yet he admitted he was naive in his footballing decisions as caretaker of our famous Club and in the end was relieved to back away when ENIC came in with an offer which leaves Sugar with a seat in the Directors box as a fan not a Chairman.

Ultimately, football is cyclic, as proven by many famous eras attributed to one particular club or other - Spurs golden days being entrenched in the late fifties and early sixties.

Our recent journey has swept up new supporters within the latest qualifying generation and the demand for instant success on the park is more apparent than ever. The real question is will our leadership see beyond the success of this season to push on and establish Tottenham as heir apparents to the second decade of the 21st century's Premiership record books?

Nicely put. My reservation with Levy is his stubbornness during transfer windows, particularly the Jan one. His brinkmanship has stifled our progress. We haven't had a proper marquee signing since Modric either.

Anyway its Joe Lewis's money so ultimately he must control the budget?

 

[StartingPrice]

Alan Sugar's personal fortune from AMSTRAD wffwctively rescued THFC from going to the Administrators, notwithstanding his persistence in taking on the FA to nullify the 12 point penalty and the £1.5m fine imposed, and winning in the courts.

Yet he admitted he was naive in his footballing decisions as caretaker of our famous Club and in the end was relieved to back away when ENIC came in with an offer which leaves Sugar with a seat in the Directors box as a fan not a Chairman.

Ultimately, football is cyclic, as proven by many famous eras attributed to one particular club or other - Spurs golden days being entrenched in the late fifties and early sixties.

Our recent journey has swept up new supporters within the latest qualifying generation and the demand for instant success on the park is more apparent than ever. The real question is will our leadership see beyond the success of this season to push on and establish Tottenham as heir apparents to the second decade of the 21st century's Premiership record books?

But why is it that after this has been explained in such detail so many times, folk persist in repeating nonesense about the man:shrug:

 

[PT]

But why is it that after this has been explained in such detail so many times, folk persist in repeating nonesense about the man:shrug:

Two sides to every rumour but perhaps Venables' aura is still vibrant, underpinned by '96 and the nation's favourite rag The Sun.

 

[alamo]

Should never have sold Taarabt. Gonna lose Krancjar.

Fuckin Levy. Worst thing that ever happened to us



(my big fat hairy arse!!)

Love im really

 

[Destroyer]

I still remember Glenn telling us about his 5 year plan

 

[alamo]

[yt]n0hOHJT_HGk[/yt]

 

[sloth]

Ultimately, football is cyclic, as proven by many famous eras attributed to one particular club or other - Spurs golden days being entrenched in the late fifties and early sixties.

Tell that to the likes of Preston NE and Notts County and whoever else once were massive and now are minnows. Football can be cyclical, it can also be entirely one way (up or down).

To imply that our success is down to the vagaries of the football fates is a gross injustice to those who contributed to our success and a massive let off to those, who down through the years, fucked it up.

Our recent journey has swept up new supporters within the latest qualifying generation and the demand for instant success on the park is more apparent than ever. The real question is will our leadership see beyond the success of this season to push on and establish Tottenham as heir apparents to the second decade of the 21st century's Premiership record books?

What does this mean? "See beyond", what do you mean by that? We are massively over-achieving atm.

Relative spending on players of the top Premier League sides is as follows (per annum / 5 year spend):

Man City / £199m / £995m
Chelsea / £168 / £840m
Man Utd / £134m / £670m
Arsenal / £106m / £530m
Liverpool / £99m / £495m
A Villa / £95m / £475m
Spurs / £86m / £430m

And yet compare our squad to those other sides in the top 6 and tell me there's the gulf the relative expenditures would suggest there should be.

How have we done it? Perhaps it's just luck? Maybe we just bought randomly and bloody hell, how did that happen, we've suddenly got a great squad and somehow it came in within budget!

We're where we are thanks to Pleat, Arnesen and Jol, Redknapp and Commolli. And yes thanks to Levy.

Where we'll be in the next decade is hard to say, in the last ten years there were only four clubs with a larger budget than us, now there are five, but there's still only four CL places.

We've got to out perform two clubs with much bigger budgets than us to maintain our level. If we don't then we'll have to sell our best players and hope to unearth some more.

To close the expenditure gap we need the revenue a bigger football stadium would generate. But if we get one then we'll have to reduce our player expenditure for a few years and the gap will be even wider.

 

[Lilbaz]

Nicely put. My reservation with Levy is his stubbornness during transfer windows, particularly the Jan one. His brinkmanship has stifled our progress. We haven't had a proper marquee signing since Modric either.

Anyway its Joe Lewis's money so ultimately he must control the budget?

VDV :shrug:

Levy's stubbornness may have something to do with the fact our turnover is less than half that of Utd, Chelsea or Arsenal and Joe Lewis may own shares in Enic who in turn may own shares in Tottenham but he is not Abramovich. At no time has he ever put money directly into Tottenham football club, we are run as a business and ran very well by an excellent chairman.

 

[michaelden]

Sugar was good for Spurs and so is DL. We are doing very well and ling may it continue

 

[Azrael]

Nicely put. My reservation with Levy is his stubbornness during transfer windows, particularly the Jan one. His brinkmanship has stifled our progress. We haven't had a proper marquee signing since Modric either.

Anyway its Joe Lewis's money so ultimately he must control the budget?

Whilst I agree, I think his transfer window bargaining is ultimately a small price to pay for an otherwise stable and slowly progressing club. Too many clubs these days are dumped on financially with the assumption that with wonder signings and an expensive manager success will be instant. This has been proved to be the wrong approach time and time again. Levy will always be hesitant in the trafser market, but at the same time the more we progress the more that even he will be able to secure better players.

All in all the good with Levy far outweighs the bad.

In terms of mistakes, I think the only one that he has made that did, for a time, harm our progression was the sacking of Graham and the hiring of Hoddle. It was the move of a fan, not someone looking at matters with a cool head. Get rid of the gooner scum and bring in a legend. All well and good but Graham had earned us a trophie and had a much better track record of winning than Hoddle had. Still, the mistake was realised and Enic got serious with the move for Santini. Ever since then you can't say that Levy has not been doing as much as he thinks necessary to bring success.

 

[StartingPrice]

Two sides to every rumour but perhaps Venables' aura is still vibrant, underpinned by '96 and the nation's favourite rag The Sun.

I know this...but I am thinking more about the fact it has been explained that Sugar inherited a club in turmoil, ripe for following the 'spend to keep up' mentality that has seen some clubs sinking to all time lows, or obscurity (Citeh, pre-windfall, Leeds, Sheff Weds, etc). He appreciated that the club had to live within its means, and enforced that strictly.

Sugar was good for Spurs and so is DL. We are doing very well and ling may it continue

THIS
Why does a 'congrats to Dan Levy' thread have to deteriorate into yet another 'bash Sugar' (wrongly, IMHO) thread:shrug:

 

[alamo]

Whilst I agree, I think his transfer window bargaining is ultimately a small price to pay for an otherwise stable and slowly progressing club. Too many clubs these days are dumped on financially with the assumption that with wonder signings and an expensive manager success will be instant. This has been proved to be the wrong approach time and time again. Levy will always be hesitant in the trafser market, but at the same time the more we progress the more that even he will be able to secure better players.

All in all the good with Levy far outweighs the bad.

In terms of mistakes, I think the only one that he has made that did, for a time, harm our progression was the sacking of Graham and the hiring of Hoddle. It was the move of a fan, not someone looking at matters with a cool head. Get rid of the gooner scum and bring in a legend. All well and good but Graham had earned us a trophie and had a much better track record of winning than Hoddle had. Still, the mistake was realised and Enic got serious with the move for Santini. Ever since then you can't say that Levy has not been doing as much as he thinks necessary to bring success.

Excellent post Az. Duly repped.

Only thing I would disagree with is Levy being hesitant. Far from it. He is realistic within our financial capabilities and knows 'when to pounce' as it were.

I get what you are saying though