Ansu Fati

[Tucker]

I’m less concerned about this if it’s a loan with an option. That way it’s a reasonable gamble considering his knee problems.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

That’s crazy considering we aren’t getting a CF. No idea how we keep everyone happy. Solomon can barely get game time on his preferred side.

Johnson can play CF mate, Fati LW or RW but yea with no europe or many cup games might be tough to keep everyone happy but then again we don’t need to worry too much about certain players who aren’t in anges longer term plans happiness levels.

I doubt very much that we will sign Fati and Johnson tbh, most likely fati on loan like a Danjuma style last min deal which will be underwhelming if so.

 

[rossdapep]

Johnson can play CF mate, Fati LW or RW but yea with no europe or many cup games might be tough to keep everyone happy but then again we don’t need to worry too much about certain players who aren’t in anges longer term plans happiness levels.

I doubt very much that we will sign Fati and Johnson tbh, most likely fati on loan like a Danjuma style last min deal which will be underwhelming if so.

Think until January we will be trying to define which players truly will be part of the best few years.

Bit like what Poch had to do.

Some players stayed to help out like Chadli but they were never favoured and always heading for the door but we had to let the team kinda settled itself down first.

Once Son, Dele, Kane, Eriksen and Lamela became the go to guys we could clear decks.

So if we have to I many options now, I think itll be corrected by January.

Everyone needs to start to see these early days as the 'establishing' period and we are still far from getting that right.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Think until January we will be trying to define which players truly will be part of the best few years.

Bit like what Poch had to do.

Some players stayed to help out like Chadli but they were never favoured and always heading for the door but we had to let the team kinda settled itself down first.

Once Son, Dele, Kane, Eriksen and Lamela became the go to guys we could clear decks.

So if we have to I many options now, I think itll be corrected by January.

Everyone needs to start to see these early days as the 'establishing' period and we are still far from getting that right.

this and so the odd loan with option signing whilst we work things out is ok but for me Fati alone as our only other attacking signing isn’t enough, I’d like to see Johnson also or tbh just Johnson as at least he can cover ST and RW.

 

[Pochemon94]

Johnson can play CF mate, Fati LW or RW but yea with no europe or many cup games might be tough to keep everyone happy but then again we don’t need to worry too much about certain players who aren’t in anges longer term plans happiness levels.

I doubt very much that we will sign Fati and Johnson tbh, most likely fati on loan like a Danjuma style last min deal which will be underwhelming if so.

I think it'll be the opposite with getting BJ in simply because all of the reports are saying Levy is on it and he wouldn't put himself out there unless the deal was getting done so he can get good press tbh. but agreed it's one or the other not both and yeah prob a sub par last second loan to make up numbers

 

[N'Obody]

Johnson can play CF mate, Fati LW or RW but yea with no europe or many cup games might be tough to keep everyone happy but then again we don’t need to worry too much about certain players who aren’t in anges longer term plans happiness levels.

I doubt very much that we will sign Fati and Johnson tbh, most likely fati on loan like a Danjuma style last min deal which will be underwhelming if so.

Johnson right, Fati left, Son uptop seems like It could be a decent front 3 to work with tbh.

With Perisic, Richy and Solomon as the backup 3.

 

[lukadownthelane]

Johnson right, Fati left, Son uptop seems like It could be a decent front 3 to work with tbh.

With Perisic, Richy and Solomon as the backup 3.

Kulu?

 

[N'Obody]

Kulu?

Genuinely think Kulu may get moved inside due to his lack of pace. Once we have more pace on the wings. I see him getting less time on right side tbh.

 

[Ghost Hardware]

Fati would essentially be the mother of all opportunity deals…

A player who was once considered the heir to Messi, touted as one of the biggest wonderkids in years gets a serious injury that massively sets him back. He comes back and fails to refind his form whilst also realising he needs to adapt his game. He’s just not the same player he was and that leaves a mental scar. This is all happening during a period where Barca are in their worst shape in years exacerbated by some truly awful overspending putting them in a financial hole they may never get out of. Fati now has finally managed to get back to full fitness but isn’t quite the same player. Mental issues are still there and he can feel the weight of expectation every time he puts on that no 10 shirt. He loves the club but the club aren’t sure they love him back. Still he’s only 20 and has started to show signs of his old self. But due to the previous regimes disregard for financial solvency all bets are off when it comes to selling their once precious gems.

Reality is if Fati never got injured we wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting him. Even if he did get injured but Barca were financially stable I also don’t think we would have a chance of getting him. Not at 20 anyhow. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if he didn’t push on.

This is every gamble on an opportunistic purchase Levy has ever made all rolled into one. I am not surprised in the least we would be interested. If, and it’s a ginormous mega IF with lots of mini if’s hanging from every gapping orifice, he gets back to his former self then we would have got ourselves a truly world class player for what I’d imagine to be an incredibly favourable deal. But I’d put the chances of that happening at like 1 in 10

 

[lobob8]

Fati would essentially be the mother of all opportunity deals…

A player who was once considered the heir to Messi, touted as one of the biggest wonderkids in years gets a serious injury that massively sets him back. He comes back and fails to refind his form and whilst realising he needs to adapt his game. He’s just not the same player he was and that leaves a mental scar. This is all happening during a period where Barca are in their worst shape in years exacerbated by some truly awful overspending putting them in a financial hole they may never get out of. Fati now has finally managed to get back to full fitness but isn’t quite the same player. Mental issues are still there and he can feel the weight of expectation every time he puts on that no 10 shirt. He loves the club but the club aren’t sure they love him back. Still he’s only 20 and has started to show signs of his old self. But due to the previous regimes disregard for financial solvency all bets are off when it comes to selling their once precious gems.

Reality is if Fati never got injured we wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting him. Even if he did get injured but Barca were financially stable I also don’t think we would have a chance of getting him. Not at 20 anyhow. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if he didn’t push on.

This is every gamble on an opportunistic purchase Levy has ever made all rolled into one. I am not surprised in the least we would be interested. If, and it’s a ginormous mega IF with lots of mini if’s hanging from every gapping orifice, he gets back to his former self then we would have got ourselves a truly world class player for what I’d imagine to be an incredibly favourable deal. But I’d put the chances of that happening at like 10-1.

This guy is like Vinicius and Rodrygo at Madrid or Musiala at Bayern. Supreme talent, we'd have no chance of getting him if it wasn't for his past injury issues.

 

[Pochemon94]

Fati would essentially be the mother of all opportunity deals…

A player who was once considered the heir to Messi, touted as one of the biggest wonderkids in years gets a serious injury that massively sets him back. He comes back and fails to refind his form and whilst realising he needs to adapt his game. He’s just not the same player he was and that leaves a mental scar. This is all happening during a period where Barca are in their worst shape in years exacerbated by some truly awful overspending putting them in a financial hole they may never get out of. Fati now has finally managed to get back to full fitness but isn’t quite the same player. Mental issues are still there and he can feel the weight of expectation every time he puts on that no 10 shirt. He loves the club but the club aren’t sure they love him back. Still he’s only 20 and has started to show signs of his old self. But due to the previous regimes disregard for financial solvency all bets are off when it comes to selling their once precious gems.

Reality is if Fati never got injured we wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting him. Even if he did get injured but Barca were financially stable I also don’t think we would have a chance of getting him. Not at 20 anyhow. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if he didn’t push on.

This is every gamble on an opportunistic purchase Levy has ever made all rolled into one. I am not surprised in the least we would be interested. If, and it’s a ginormous mega IF with lots of mini if’s hanging from every gapping orifice, he gets back to his former self then we would have got ourselves a truly world class player for what I’d imagine to be an incredibly favourable deal. But I’d put the chances of that happening at like 10-1.

This perfectly sums up everything about this deal

 

[Pochemon94]

Still weirdly wouldn't count Chelsea out of this. They have endless money and don't care about squad building or cohesion. At the end of the day if we get him on loan + obligation I could see them just coming in and throwing 60 mil to snag him

 

[jpascavitz]

Fati would essentially be the mother of all opportunity deals…

A player who was once considered the heir to Messi, touted as one of the biggest wonderkids in years gets a serious injury that massively sets him back. He comes back and fails to refind his form and whilst realising he needs to adapt his game. He’s just not the same player he was and that leaves a mental scar. This is all happening during a period where Barca are in their worst shape in years exacerbated by some truly awful overspending putting them in a financial hole they may never get out of. Fati now has finally managed to get back to full fitness but isn’t quite the same player. Mental issues are still there and he can feel the weight of expectation every time he puts on that no 10 shirt. He loves the club but the club aren’t sure they love him back. Still he’s only 20 and has started to show signs of his old self. But due to the previous regimes disregard for financial solvency all bets are off when it comes to selling their once precious gems.

Reality is if Fati never got injured we wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting him. Even if he did get injured but Barca were financially stable I also don’t think we would have a chance of getting him. Not at 20 anyhow. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if he didn’t push on.

This is every gamble on an opportunistic purchase Levy has ever made all rolled into one. I am not surprised in the least we would be interested. If, and it’s a ginormous mega IF with lots of mini if’s hanging from every gapping orifice, he gets back to his former self then we would have got ourselves a truly world class player for what I’d imagine to be an incredibly favourable deal. But I’d put the chances of that happening at like 1 in 10

I 1000000% agree with you.

When we first were linked, I kind of turned my nose at him. I knew/read that he had some bad injuries and he hasn't been the same since coming back... so in my head I thought this signing would be solely to appease the fans, not find the best fit in Ange's system. I was looking at stats and saw talents like Edwards and Bakayoko available for cheaper, producing higher outputs in terms of dribbling (key in Ange's system).

However, you make several good points. Yes, of course there's some risk involved in the deal, but we're still talking about a player that has produced an average of 1 goal involvement every three matches SINCE his injury in La Liga and Europe. At 20 years old, I do think this is a deal you do all day long and hope for a (even better) deal than the one we saw with Kulusevski.

Fati/Solomon - Son/Richy - Kulu/Johnson is crowded but you're almost hedging your bets that the talent will rise out of that group. And I know we have an experienced head like Perisic (which is prob why the deal won't happen) but realistically he won't be here past next season.

 

[lobob8]

I 1000000% agree with you.

When we first were linked, I kind of turned my nose at him. I knew/read that he had some bad injuries and he hasn't been the same since coming back... so in my head I thought this signing would be solely to appease the fans, not find the best fit in Ange's system. I was looking at stats and saw talents like Edwards and Bakayoko available for cheaper, producing higher outputs in terms of dribbling (key in Ange's system).

However, you make several good points. Yes, of course there's some risk involved in the deal, but we're still talking about a player that has produced an average of 1 goal involvement every three matches SINCE his injury in La Liga and Europe. At 20 years old, I do think this is a deal you do all day long and hope for a (even better) deal than the one we saw with Kulusevski.

Fati/Solomon - Son/Richy - Kulu/Johnson is crowded but you're almost hedging your bets that the talent will rise out of that group. And I know we have an experienced head like Perisic (which is prob why the deal won't happen) but realistically he won't be here past next season.

Great thing about Perisic being the immaculate pro that he is, is that he won't mind riding the bench and helping to close out games as he has done. Poor game today but if we get Fati we've got every reason to still be excited.

 

[Now it's Spursonal]

Fati would essentially be the mother of all opportunity deals…

A player who was once considered the heir to Messi, touted as one of the biggest wonderkids in years gets a serious injury that massively sets him back. He comes back and fails to refind his form and whilst realising he needs to adapt his game. He’s just not the same player he was and that leaves a mental scar. This is all happening during a period where Barca are in their worst shape in years exacerbated by some truly awful overspending putting them in a financial hole they may never get out of. Fati now has finally managed to get back to full fitness but isn’t quite the same player. Mental issues are still there and he can feel the weight of expectation every time he puts on that no 10 shirt. He loves the club but the club aren’t sure they love him back. Still he’s only 20 and has started to show signs of his old self. But due to the previous regimes disregard for financial solvency all bets are off when it comes to selling their once precious gems.

Reality is if Fati never got injured we wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting him. Even if he did get injured but Barca were financially stable I also don’t think we would have a chance of getting him. Not at 20 anyhow. Maybe in 3 or 4 years if he didn’t push on.

This is every gamble on an opportunistic purchase Levy has ever made all rolled into one. I am not surprised in the least we would be interested. If, and it’s a ginormous mega IF with lots of mini if’s hanging from every gapping orifice, he gets back to his former self then we would have got ourselves a truly world class player for what I’d imagine to be an incredibly favourable deal. But I’d put the chances of that happening at like 1 in 10

Brilliantly summed up mate, but just to add to this:

If there's only a 1 in 10 chance of him getting back to his former 'truly world class' self, I think it's important to remember that there's also a 5 in 10 chance that he manages to reform himself post-injury into a different style of player that could still end up being a great signing for us.

 

[HildoSpur]

Agree with all the last posts here. Potentially a player who if they can regain form and stay fit could be one of the best players we have ever had at the club. He was that good. Totally worth the gamble for me.

 

[ATLguy]

Agree with all the last posts here. Potentially a player who if they can regain form and stay fit could be one of the best players we have ever had at the club. He was that good. Totally worth the gamble for me.

Yes sir...a money-ball signing with a loan mitigating immediate financial risk.

 

[moomin]

honestly I'm really in favor of this deal, I hope we can pull it off as it could be very high reward. our forwards need more competition, richarlison hasn't been in form ever since signing, son has been out of form for basically a year (since his hernia injury), and kulu about the same time span.

 

[taidgh]

Surely we can do better than this bloke? He's perma-crocked and likely on some dumb as fuck wage.

Come on. That's just developed into a bit of a narrative now. No one actually knows what the story is with his injury, and if he'll come back or not in the long term. Surely it's worth alone to see what he can do in Ange's system and how his body holds up.

 

[taidgh]

The kid’s knee is fine. It’s not like he blew out the whole thing and had it restructured. He had a meniscus tear/rupture which they attempted to repair. The repair failed and they removed the damaged part of his meniscus. It’s a very common sports injury. Had it happen to myself while teenager playing basketball. The major concerns are years down the road when older and arthritis kicks in because you have no cartilage and you are bone on bone in areas. You do tend to get sore after workouts and physical activity but your speed and explosiveness are not at all impacted after recovery.

People acting like a meniscus surgery is a career ender. He'll struggle to walk without pain when he's 60, but it has very little impact in your 20s. Also from first hand knowledge as a guy who played three different sports every single weekend after such a surgery.