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Anthony Martial

TheAmerican

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Having watched Monaco a decent amount last season (Falcao), here's what i know:

Strengths: He's very very quick. His finishing is also good, in the 4/5 games I saw him play a part in, he scored in one aand I don't recall him missing anything. His link up play is also decent, and he could probably do a job on the LW/RW imo.

Weaknesses: Not sure, as I haven't seen him enough, but I'd worry if he'd be able to deal with big physical defenders, and how he plays when not allowed much space tbh. Easily worked on though, so not too bad.

His potential is huge, however. People who know about Ligue 1 rate him very highly and many believe him to be the best U20 striker in the world, inc me.

I would compare him to Origi, but with more composure, but less aerial presence. Perhaps similar to Remy too, but slightly less powerful.

If he's available for 15m euros, and the club are willing to take a risk, I'd go for it. His potential is huge.

I actually think France is one of the more physical leagues these days. I also think there is a fairly good record of players successfully transitioning from Ligue 1 to the EPL.
 

Khilari

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Was he the random rumour of us signing the "next Henry"?

You'd think out of the random player targeting by the press, at least ONE would come off...
 

Ossie85

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Having watched Monaco a decent amount last season (Falcao), here's what i know:

Strengths: He's very very quick. His finishing is also good, in the 4/5 games I saw him play a part in, he scored in one aand I don't recall him missing anything. His link up play is also decent, and he could probably do a job on the LW/RW imo.

Weaknesses: Not sure, as I haven't seen him enough, but I'd worry if he'd be able to deal with big physical defenders, and how he plays when not allowed much space tbh. Easily worked on though, so not too bad.

His potential is huge, however. People who know about Ligue 1 rate him very highly and many believe him to be the best U20 striker in the world, inc me.

I would compare him to Origi, but with more composure, but less aerial presence. Perhaps similar to Remy too, but slightly less powerful.

If he's available for 15m euros, and the club are willing to take a risk, I'd go for it. His potential is huge.

He played against arsenal a couple of days ago and completely bullied their defenders. He looked very strong
 

wiggo24

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He played against arsenal a couple of days ago and completely bullied their defenders. He looked very strong

Really? That comes as a surprise to me, he might have worked on it during pre-season. Also, he's only 18 so he's got time to fill out even more.

Didn't really see that in Ligue 1, but then perhaps it was just because he didn't need to..
 

Ossie85

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Really? That comes as a surprise to me, he might have worked on it during pre-season. Also, he's only 18 so he's got time to fill out even more.

Didn't really see that in Ligue 1, but then perhaps it was just because he didn't need to..

he was playing against Miquel and another kid though, and Monaco were already 1 up, so he had space

Still, he looked very good to me, even when he had to work with his back to the goal
 

trnk

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What's he done in the last year that's made his fee treble? Was he out of contract at Lille or something?
If we wanted him we should've acted then, that kind of money for what is still potential is pretty unimaginable for a club like ours. Our scouting needs to seriously improve.
He was playing for Lyon, and no, he was not out of contract. 5M is a lot for a transfer in France, that was an irrefusable amount for a 17 years-old who had 4 apps in Ligue 1.
 

coypu

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This seems to back up JJ and Trix as much as we have interest but no offer made.

http://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2014/anthony-martial-set-to-quit-monaco/

Get French Football News has this evening been informed by sources at the club that AS Monaco youngster Anthony Martial has decided to quit the club, should an interested party agree a fee with the Principality side.
The player has offers from Wolfsburg, as well as serious interest from Atletico Madrid and Valencia, who have made it their priority to sign the player.
Tottenham Hotspur are long-term admirers of the player, but Get French Football News understands that reports claiming that the North London club have made a concrete bid are false.
According to our colleagues at Canal + tonight, Valencia are in the lead to sign the highly-rated French marksman.
 

mill

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If we don't get him this summer we never will by the sounds of it, not that I've seen him play
 

Spursking

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A big loss for Monaco yesterday. Seems to be yet another manager with no clue about how to select his best team. There are so many of these football people at the highest level. It is sometimes unbelievable how people look at football. Isn't football fun and exciting? Why don't you put on the fun and exciting players, then? You actually have them available, but you don't select the right team.
 

Dharmabum

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A big loss for Monaco yesterday. Seems to be yet another manager with no clue about how to select his best team. There are so many of these football people at the highest level. It is sometimes unbelievable how people look at football. Isn't football fun and exciting? Why don't you put on the fun and exciting players, then? You actually have them available, but you don't select the right team.

Losing 1-4 is not just about selecting the right players when it comes to Monaco - more to do with tactics, motivation etc,
Ardiles was all about fun as a manager....do you want him back as Spurs' manager? :cool:
 

Spursking

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Losing 1-4 is not just about selecting the right players when it comes to Monaco - more to do with tactics, motivation etc,
Ardiles was all about fun as a manager....do you want him back as Spurs' manager? :cool:
Ardiles as a player was good, and I liked his tactics as well (offensive football), but it was the same with him. He didn't know how to get a good team. When you play with Edinburgh and Austin in defence, it says it all really.

At that time, we had potential, but the reason why he failed was not due to too offensive tactics, it was again the lack of sense of how to build a good team as a whole. We had some really exciting players at the time, but we didn't have a full 11 of exciting players, when you look at the likes of for example Edinburgh and Austin.

Why is it so hard to see this? It strikes me all the time. People in general don't have sense for these things.
 

Pat Rice Spurs fan

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Talksport say we're in competition with Bordeaux for his signature - sorry, can't copy the link on my phone but it's on our front page news.
Surely Monaco would rather sell to us than their direct condition.
 

Dharmabum

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Ardiles as a player was good, and I liked his tactics as well (offensive football), but it was the same with him. He didn't know how to get a good team. When you play with Edinburgh and Austin in defence, it says it all really.

At that time, we had potential, but the reason why he failed was not due to too offensive tactics, it was again the lack of sense of how to build a good team as a whole. We had some really exciting players at the time, but we didn't have a full 11 of exciting players, when you look at the likes of for example Edinburgh and Austin.

Why is it so hard to see this? It strikes me all the time. People in general don't have sense for these things.


And that includes playing defense...
 

Barry Mead

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Ardiles as a player was good, and I liked his tactics as well (offensive football), but it was the same with him. He didn't know how to get a good team. When you play with Edinburgh and Austin in defence, it says it all really.

At that time, we had potential, but the reason why he failed was not due to too offensive tactics, it was again the lack of sense of how to build a good team as a whole. We had some really exciting players at the time, but we didn't have a full 11 of exciting players, when you look at the likes of for example Edinburgh and Austin.

Why is it so hard to see this? It strikes me all the time. People in general don't have sense for these things.


Few teams ever have 11 exciting players and most successful teams tend to be a mix of quality exciting players and solid and hard working
For a greater part drive, desire and character are more important than exciting but finding the right balance of these qualities and good fit is key
I wouldn't say Baker or Henry were particularly exciting players, Maurice Norman arguably more solid than exciting but they all were key components of a great and exciting team
Of course it's easy to say but not always easy to build a team where all the components fit well. You might know the ideal players but if the likes of Real Madrid or Barcelona also like the look then chances are you are then looking down the list at the next options and maybe it's not always clear cut
Even some of the best players in one league struggle in another, simply switching from one team to another in the same league doesn't suit certain players
I think most people think they have a sense for it, but talking about it and actually doing it can no doubt be very different. We all like to remember the great players we suggest and conveniently forget all the others that might have seemed good but subsequently struggled. We can all suggest that we should buy say a Falcao or a James Rodriguez without really thinking where the money might come from. I guess that's why we all sit in our armchairs thinking how easy it should be when people who have been doing it for years and know the pitfalls know it's a lot tougher in reality than in your imagination
 

Spursh

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@RBairner: Anthony #Martial's not going to be happy about this - taken off just a few minutes after coming on. Transfer rumours will step up now.
 

ButchCassidy

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Would take him over Welbeck/Remy. Probably wouldn't have as much of an impact this season but has a much higher ceiling IMO.
 

Dharmabum

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Would take him over Welbeck/Remy. Probably wouldn't have as much of an impact this season but has a much higher ceiling IMO.

If Spurs could find a taker for Soldado at around £16M I would not Spurs getting both Martial and Wellbeck. Martial could be sent out on a 6 months to a season long loan to get experience.
 

kernowspurscoach1977

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If Spurs could find a taker for Soldado at around £16M I would not Spurs getting both Martial and Wellbeck. Martial could be sent out on a 6 months to a season long loan to get experience.
Why would we want to swap soldado for welbeck??? No thanks he will come good this year soldado!
 
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