Anthony Martial

[yido16]

Man literally got fired because he got caught making up stories. Why he still has a following and people who believe him boggles the mind.

Didn’t realise that, oh well good news then

 

[wrd]

Didn’t realise that, oh well good news then

In-fairness, you've made us all much more confident

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

He isn't. He's missing for two weeks. You're speculating he'll be going to the meaningless cup in January.

Son could be missing it, I remember reading that if they don't win Gold at the Olympics he'd have to try and win the Asian Games in January. We also have to take into account that there is still no clarification regarding his military service which will mean we lose him for 2 years at some stage. A left sided WF is a key signing to make. You seem to disagree but the ITK on here seem to point towards Mauricio believing the same as I do.

Honestly, do you think having Son & Nkoudou on the left with Kane & Son as your striking options is strong enough for a whole season? If we can sign a Zaha or a Martial we do what Liverpool did last season when they strengthened their right side with the signing of Salah when Mane was their star man in that position.

We have Lucas &a Lamela who can play on the right, Eriksen and Dele who can float from right, centre and left and Son + 1 to cause damage down the left. It gives us fierce attacking prowess and means we can keep Son on the left should we choose to if Kane gets a knock or can't play. In my opinion it's money well spent should we be able to move forward with one of the other

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Ben faithorne has said ,Utd confirmed this afternoon they would rather miss out on Toby than allow martial to spurs ?

Mourinho really is a rat isn't he. Haha got to laugh he knows that keeping an enemy weak automatically makes you stronger

 

[Flashp]

If he's overrated it's not just on here. Zaha is widely regarded as the best player outside of the 'top 6'.

By who? I agree that he is probably CP’s best player, but that doesn’t really say alot.

Of the top of my head I’d say Gylfi, Arnautovic and maybe even Vardy are better players from outside the top-6.

Who of Martial or Zaha do you think is the better player?

 

[ButchCassidy]

Son could be missing it, I remember reading that if they don't win Gold at the Olympics he'd have to try and win the Asian Games in January. We also have to take into account that there is still no clarification regarding his military service which will mean we lose him for 2 years at some stage. A left sided WF is a key signing to make. You seem to disagree but the ITK on here seem to point towards Mauricio believing the same as I do.

Honestly, do you think having Son & Nkoudou on the left with Kane & Son as your striking options is strong enough for a whole season? If we can sign a Zaha or a Martial we do what Liverpool did last season when they strengthened their right side with the signing of Salah when Mane was their star man in that position.

We have Lucas &a Lamela who can play on the right, Eriksen and Dele who can float from right, centre and left and Son + 1 to cause damage down the left. It gives us fierce attacking prowess and means we can keep Son on the left should we choose to if Kane gets a knock or can't play. In my opinion it's money well spent should we be able to move forward with one of the other

The Asia Games isn’t in January, it’s in August-September. The Asia cup in January has no bearing on Son’s military service. There’s a fairly comprehensive thread about this in Spurs Chat.

 

[tiger666]

Honestly, do you think having Son & Nkoudou on the left with Kane & Son as your striking options is strong enough for a whole season?

We haven't sold anyone yet so we're as strong as we were last season. We were so strong in the attacking mids, Lucas could barely get a game so no, I don't believe we're as desperate for an attacking mid as you're making out. It seems Poch is wanting one though so I assume a formation change is in order. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to see an attacking mid come in, but let's not start making excuses like Son is missing for two months when it isn't true. As things stand Son will be gone for two weeks.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

The Asia Games isn’t in January, it’s in August-September. The Asia cup in January has no bearing on Son’s military service. There’s a fairly comprehensive thread about this in Spurs Chat.

Is it comfirmed that Son 100% doesn't have to play in January? If it is fair enough but I haven't seen anything to confirm that his nation won't be calling on him for it

 

[ButchCassidy]

Is it comfirmed that Son 100% doesn't have to play in January? If it is fair enough but I haven't seen anything to confirm that his nation won't be calling on him for it

They can call him, and we are free to tell him no.

 

[ButchCassidy]

They can call him, and we are free to tell him no.

Incidentally, this is how Leverkusen fucked him four years ago - refused to release him for the Asia games and Korea won gold, would have exempted his service.

 

[GioW]

By who? I agree that he is probably CP’s best player, but that doesn’t really say alot.

Of the top of my head I’d say Gylfi, Arnautovic and maybe even Vardy are better players from outside the top-6.

Who of Martial or Zaha do you think is the better player?

Not having those 3 in the slightest.

I'd rather Martial though ?

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

By who? I agree that he is probably CP’s best player, but that doesn’t really say alot.

Of the top of my head I’d say Gylfi, Arnautovic and maybe even Vardy are better players from outside the top-6.

Who of Martial or Zaha do you think is the better player?

Gylfi, Arnautovic & Vardy aren't as good as Zaha. Honestly who out of those 4 would you want the club to sign if you could take one to make us stronger? It would be Wilfried all the way for me but I'm still umming and aahhing about who I'd prefer out of Zaha & Martial

 

[Flashp]

Not having those 3 in the slightest.

I'd rather Martial though ?

I’d want neither as well, okay maybe Gylfi at a stretch, but it was simply to underline my point about the difference in ability between Martial and Zaha.

Happy to see you agree somewhat after all ?

 

[Flashp]

Pochettino wants a wide left forward for a reason and


Gylfi, Arnautovic & Vardy aren't as good as Zaha. Honestly who out of those 4 would you want the club to sign if you could take one to make us stronger? It would be Wilfried all the way for me but I'm still umming and aahhing about who I'd prefer out of Zaha & Martial

It’s hard to compare since they’re not the same type of players. I might take Gylfi though.

If you could choose between Martial and Zaha not minding price, wages etc., I really struggle to understand why anyone would choose Zaha.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

It’s hard to compare since they’re not the same type of players. I might take Gylfi though.

If you could choose between Martial and Zaha not minding price, wages etc., I really struggle to understand why anyone would choose Zaha.

Martial has so much more smoothness to his game, I just question his fit into the team based on personality, traits etc. Zaha I've seen a huge improvement in over the last year or so and I do think his ability to beat a player 1v1 with his trickery will really help when teams drop deep against us.

Both have speed and can play wonderful counterattacking football, I just think Zaha would offer us a better solution to what we need at present even if Martial is a better overall footballing talent if that makes sense? I'd still be happy with both and change my mind on who I'd prefer every other hour it seems :s

 

[Ben1]

Martial has so much more smoothness to his game, I just question his fit into the team based on personality, traits etc. Zaha I've seen a huge improvement in over the last year or so and I do think his ability to beat a player 1v1 with his trickery will really help when teams drop deep against us.

Both have speed and can play wonderful counterattacking football, I jusst think Zaha would offer us a better solution to what we need at present even if Martial is a better overall foot talent if that makes sense? I'd still be happy with both and change my mind on who I'd prefer every other hour it seems :s

Simply put, just like you, I think Martial is the better player but Zaha may be the greater need for us. He's different to what we have.

 

[heelspurs]

Is Kane a £2-300m player?

How exactly would you like me to answer this? By even asking this question, and in the way you did, I imagine dialectical nuance is gonna be a problem. The answer to your question seems rhetorical and obvious but I imagine you and I would come to different conclusions.

Were I to own a team, under no circumstances would I pay nor do I feel that any individual player is 'worth' that (Messi included). If some team came in to turn his head would I hope that that would be the price on his head in this market? yes, or higher.

 

[TheAmerican]

Not without a signing of a decent cm.

Last season there were a few games where we were failing to open up teams, so Eriksen would be shifted back to receive the ball more centrally, and it would work well.

With a 433, I think Eriksen fills that creative roll in the center quite well. As such, we lose him as a winger and need an additional one (Zaha or Martial). Because of that, I don’t think a creative CM is as desperate a need as some are making it out to be.

 

[TheAmerican]

Simply put, just like you, I think Martial is the better player but Zaha may be the greater need for us. He's different to what we have.

I really think Zaha would take a big step up in production if surrounded by better players. It’s quite incredible how wells he’s done at Palace imo. I honestly think he may fit our system better, now, than Martial would. But, I think both would do their job well. Knowing that, we’ll likely get neither.

 

[Flashp]

Martial has so much more smoothness to his game, I just question his fit into the team based on personality, traits etc. Zaha I've seen a huge improvement in over the last year or so and I do think his ability to beat a player 1v1 with his trickery will really help when teams drop deep against us.

Both have speed and can play wonderful counterattacking football, I jusst think Zaha would offer us a better solution to what we need at present even if Martial is a better overall foot talent if that makes sense? I'd still be happy with both and change my mind on who I'd prefer every other hour it seems :s

You make some excellent points, and its nice to have a balanced discussion on here for once.

I obviously agree about Martials silkyness, and I feel that Zaha is a bit more clumsy and random in his actions. Furthermore, I have a feeling that Zaha is the type of player that needs to be a regular first-teamer to show of his best, and maybe also need to be the star of the team to be at his most effective. Neither would be the case here.

Martial on the other hand has been mismanaged by Mourinho, and even then his return of goals and assists are decent. I also feel he would be more of a natural fit as a striker in Kanes absence, than Zaha.