Appalling that Lloris was allowed to stay on

[chrissivad]

It didn't look to me that it was the Spurs medical staff saying he was fine to continue, more that it was the Spurs medical staff wanting him off and Hugo walking back on. Seems a pretty selective way of presenting facts in the face of media criticism.

I agree that it looked like the medical staff where trying to get him off the pitch to start with, and im not sure if they were trying to convince the ref if he should be taken off or stay on when he walked back onto the pitch.

Medical staff might have been advising him to come off though, and not saying he needed to come off.


He has been given the all clear and that is the main point. Give him a rest on Thursday though!!!!

 

[punky]

Real "MEN" get brain damage.

FA need a rule, as I've said.

Sorry, I have you the wrong rep by mistake, but I've corrected it

 

[mpickard2087]

The Club can confirm that Hugo Lloris underwent a precautionary CT scan and was given the all-clear and travelled back to London last night.

The France goalkeeper suffered a knock to the head following a collision with Everton forward Romelu Lukaku in the closing stages of yesterday's Premier League encounter at Goodison Park and was cleared to resume playing after examination by the Club's medical team.

Head of Medical Services Wayne Diesel said: "Once the relevant tests and assessments were carried out we were totally satisfied that he was fit to continue playing." #THFC

To me this seems a, ummmmm, diplomatic statement and a PR piece given the criticism they have had from some quarters today.

Certainly didn't seem like the medical staff ok'd him to play on, given they were dragging him off the pitch and Dawson was begging him to listen to them and go off. And it doesn't tie with AVB's comments earlier about him having the final decision and going on what Hugo said, with no mention of the medical staff.

He's ok though and we got away with it, should leave it to rest now.

 

[talkshowhost86]

No it doesn't!

He's gone as a precaution, the fact that there was no sign of concussion means he was fine to continue as he did.

If he went for a CT scan then they were still concerned that he might have concussion. Otherwise why send him for a scan?

 

[talkshowhost86]

To me this seems a, ummmmm, diplomatic statement and a PR piece given the criticism they have had from some quarters today.

Certainly didn't seem like the medical staff ok'd him to play on, given they were dragging him off the pitch and Dawson was begging him to listen to them and go off. And it doesn't tie with AVB's comments earlier about him having the final decision and going on what Hugo said, with no mention of the medical staff.

He's ok though and we got away with it, should leave it to rest now.

It's also clearly complete bollocks.

But fair play to the club for trying!

 

[RButch]

The hell have I just read? Lloris wanted to stay on it is up to him and AVB, both can take the advise of

If he went for a CT scan then they were still concerned that he might have concussion. Otherwise why send him for a scan?

Because you always do after a head injury. Doesn't mean that they were worried that he had any injuries.
They also did it to prove that he didn't suffer any damage.

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

If he went for a CT scan then they were still concerned that he might have concussion. Otherwise why send him for a scan?

Well you'd have to check, just to make sure.

 

[Legend10]

If he went for a CT scan then they were still concerned that he might have concussion. Otherwise why send him for a scan?

As a precaution, as they said.

 

[Japhet]

I wonder what people would have been posting today if;

1) Lloris, having made it clear he wanted to continue, was forced off,
2) Subsequent scans showed that there was no concussion,
3) Friedel had come on and we lost the match.

I think it would have been markedly different from what is being written at present.

 

[jerseyspur]

BBC Sport ‏@BBCSport13m
Tottenham keeper Hugo Lloris - knocked unconscious against Everton - had CT scan on Sunday night which showed no sign of concussion

There seems to be a bit of confusion, both on here & in the media (no surprises there) with the correct use of the word 'concussion'

Concussion is NOT a radiological diagnosis...it is a clinical one (ie it can be made at the bedside)

A CT head can be completely normal in someone suffering from concussion

 

[SlunkSoma]

Very reckless that he stayed on the pitch. The physios and coach can't force the player off though, and that a rule that needs to be changed. I still think we should have done more to make him come off though regardless of the outcomes. It shows a lack of care from all quarters, including Lloris looking after himself.

 

[worcestersauce]

I heard some nonsense on the radio this morning about a boxer who fought on after having internal bleeding that left him in a coma, I remember it well and it was terribly sad but the fact is that three more rounds of getting punched in no way resembles playing half an hour of football.
He stayed on after being assessed by the doctor and guess what; the doctor was right!
FIFA my arse.
I'm not being glib and I do take it seriously but sometimes people just go way overboard in their reactions.

 

[brasil_spur]

Jesus, I wonder how some sports exist in this day in age.

Can you imagine how this would impact a sport like Rugby, both teams would be down to 3 men after 10 minutes of play.

I can't see there being anything reckless in it, ffs how many of us have taken head knocks at various points in life and never consulted any kind of health professional.

It's taken Health and Safety to absurd limits.

 

[MaccSpurs]

Yeah I think we leave the decisions to the professionals they do the studying and have the qualifications for a reason.

Yeah because no doctor ever made a mistake

 

[IGSpur]

AVB has shown some personality weaknesses which he will need to iron out.

- His bitterness and blame towards Abramovich at losing his job at Chelsea. They didn't perform under him.
- Falling out with players at Chelsea (Lampard, Cole, etc) and Spurs (VDV, BAE, Adebayor)
- Blaming the Spurs Home fans for lack of support when his team wasn't performing
- Fairly ruthless decision to let Lloris play on.

These are not major issues but, because he's such an affable bloke, I'd like to see them sorted out. He's got to mature a bit.

All those are very subjective and I disagree with at least 3 of them, which have all been discussed, so don't really think he has to iron out anything. Someone will always complain about something (not a dig at you btw).

Without going into storytelling, there have been 3 times in my life where I have been either unconscious, dizzy/groggy, legs given way, or taken a heavy impact to the head, and never went hospital after but infact continued to play sport after fine. I know there are risks but there are risks in everything. When two players challenge for the ball and they collide heads should they go off for a scan, from what I remember just heading a ball hurts and I'm sure repeatedly heading a ball falling from must have some affect like what messrs Dawson and Kaboul do. You can't take them off. Lukaku stayed on after saying he doesn't remember scoring fro Everton but there is no media storm there

Lloris may not have remembered the incident but he was definitely sure of himself once he was up telling the medical staff. Fifa's top medic said there is a 99% of concussion yet CT scans show no concussion. Something there doesn't seem right, unless Hugo, Lukaku and Flamini are all just incredibly lucky, and I'm sure everything FIFA officials says is correct.

The best assessors are the docs on hand. I know AVB will get some stick but he can only go off his medics advice, he was not near the situation. If the medics or the ref thought it was absolutely necessary they would have hauled him off. Like when a player gets a leg injury they speak into the piece to the bench and said players is subbed a even if it's precautionary. He's going to get so much stick for something that isn't his fault. If it happened at the start of the game I reckon AVB would have subbed him off.

All I know is my club and the manager is about to be laid into again, which is not needed when our own fans are already doing enough. For what it's worth i wouldn't be against a rule forcing players off the field after being unconscious, as it would avoid these situations and would benefit the player, but clearly the FA didn't think it was needed and it has taken for Spurs to get some stick before they consider it.
COYS

 

[IGSpur]

Yeah because no doctor ever made a mistake

I doubt any doc would let a player play on concussed, so surely the results of the scan have proven once again that our docs know what they're doing, and should be praised, but I somehow doubt that will happen

 

[Legend10]

I doubt any doc would let a player play on concussed, so surely the results of the scan have proven once again that our docs know what they're doing, and should be praised, but I somehow doubt that will happen

Don't be ridiculous, people here know far more about everything than people who are professionals in their field.

 

[MaccSpurs]

I doubt any doc would let a player play on concussed, so surely the results of the scan have proven once again that our docs know what they're doing, and should be praised, but I somehow doubt that will happen

So why do they need a scan if our docs are so sure?

 

[JollyHappy]

I think it was very telling that AVB put the decision down to himself. From what I can see he took no part in the decision but he is prepared to take the blame for the decision if it was wrong. Can you imagine 'Arry saying the same thing - he'd have passed all liabiity onto the medics.

A plus point for AVB I'd say and evidence that he sticks up for his entire staff

 

[Francis Gibbs]

I think it was very telling that AVB put the decision down to himself. From what I can see he took no part in the decision but he is prepared to take the blame for the decision if it was wrong. Can you imagine 'Arry saying the same thing - he'd have passed all liabiity onto the medics.

A plus point for AVB I'd say and evidence that he sticks up for his entire staff

saying/doing nothing at the time is hardly sticking up for them - they wanted him off it was obvious but he did nothing therefore letting the player make the decision which was wrong. If he wanted to support them he should have insisted he come off - after the event it simply looks like a lame attempt to say I was in charge.
I just hope the medical team arent hung out to dry over this by the club wanting to support the Manager