And before people rush to disagree it's a question, not a statement.
The first question to answer the question is what is success, how do you measure it these days for a club like Spurs? Realistically we have little to no chance of winning the league anymore and the same goes for just about every other non mega budget club. Look at Arsenal , they may sort of be in the hunt but they are very unlikely to win the league which is their last hope of silverware ths season, so this is going to be their 9th year without a trophy. Even Arsene Wenger said qualifying for the CL is like winning a trophy for Arsenal, i for one think he's not wrong.
Maybe we should have won a cup or 2 in the last few years since the Carling victory, and maybe if we had made that the priority over trying to qualify for the CL we would have, who knows, but what we do know is that the CL is the holy grail for the club because of the financial rewards.
It's no coincidence that clubs usually finish somewhere in line with their budgets, the big budgets at the top, the smaller budgets at the bottom. The lower you go the more this can change around as the difference in budget size becomes smaller. But at the top the difference between City, Chavs, Utd and everybody else is huge. Then Arsenal who's budget for salaries is something like £50-60 million a year more than ours, then Liverpool and then us.
Financially 6th is our mark, but it's a long way 6th, we are a lot closer to Everton, Villa, Newcastle, WBA etc than we are to the teams above us, a lot closer.
So under Redknapp we finished 4th, 5th & 4th, then under AVB we finished 5th and at the moment through a mixture of AVB & Sherwood we are once again 5th. This is consistent over achievement and over achievement which has massively been hampered by bad luck as well, such as Chavs ludicrous CL luck and Marton Fulop.
If we now have a period where we drop away to 6th then it will be a period where we will basically be where we should be. But what gets me has been the non stop bitching and moaning through a period of a number of years where we have been over achieving, where are Everton, Villa, Newcastle every year, nowhere because they haven't got their act together as well as we have done.
I wasn't calling for AVB's head even though i found the football under him painful to watch, i wasn't because he was still following the trend of over achievement and for that there should be some respect, although it's very worrying when a top pro comes out after a 5-0 defeat and says we gave up, that is a worry but that's another topic.
In short for 4 consecutive years and this could be our 5th we have got in there and mixed with clubs that have much higher budgets and left behind clubs who's budgets are closer to ours, but this seems to have built an almost ludicrous level of entitlement and expectancy from fans that has led to abuse, vitriol and non stop complaining.
I enjoyed the Redknapp days, the football was open and exciting and we did achieve things, we could possibly have achieved more who knows and yes he did have Bale, Modric and VDV amongst others, but somebody and i don't know who deserves enormous praise for getting those players at Spurs, i didn't see them at Villa or Everton or even the clubs bigger than us because somebody at Spurs done the business.
Due to finances there is undoubtedly a ceiling for Tottenham under Enic but they can hardly be accused of doing a bad job.
So there is the question, when a club is over achieving to it's budget but has a miserable discontent fan base that moan non stop about everything is it a victim of it's own success?
The first question to answer the question is what is success, how do you measure it these days for a club like Spurs? Realistically we have little to no chance of winning the league anymore and the same goes for just about every other non mega budget club. Look at Arsenal , they may sort of be in the hunt but they are very unlikely to win the league which is their last hope of silverware ths season, so this is going to be their 9th year without a trophy. Even Arsene Wenger said qualifying for the CL is like winning a trophy for Arsenal, i for one think he's not wrong.
Maybe we should have won a cup or 2 in the last few years since the Carling victory, and maybe if we had made that the priority over trying to qualify for the CL we would have, who knows, but what we do know is that the CL is the holy grail for the club because of the financial rewards.
It's no coincidence that clubs usually finish somewhere in line with their budgets, the big budgets at the top, the smaller budgets at the bottom. The lower you go the more this can change around as the difference in budget size becomes smaller. But at the top the difference between City, Chavs, Utd and everybody else is huge. Then Arsenal who's budget for salaries is something like £50-60 million a year more than ours, then Liverpool and then us.
Financially 6th is our mark, but it's a long way 6th, we are a lot closer to Everton, Villa, Newcastle, WBA etc than we are to the teams above us, a lot closer.
So under Redknapp we finished 4th, 5th & 4th, then under AVB we finished 5th and at the moment through a mixture of AVB & Sherwood we are once again 5th. This is consistent over achievement and over achievement which has massively been hampered by bad luck as well, such as Chavs ludicrous CL luck and Marton Fulop.
If we now have a period where we drop away to 6th then it will be a period where we will basically be where we should be. But what gets me has been the non stop bitching and moaning through a period of a number of years where we have been over achieving, where are Everton, Villa, Newcastle every year, nowhere because they haven't got their act together as well as we have done.
I wasn't calling for AVB's head even though i found the football under him painful to watch, i wasn't because he was still following the trend of over achievement and for that there should be some respect, although it's very worrying when a top pro comes out after a 5-0 defeat and says we gave up, that is a worry but that's another topic.
In short for 4 consecutive years and this could be our 5th we have got in there and mixed with clubs that have much higher budgets and left behind clubs who's budgets are closer to ours, but this seems to have built an almost ludicrous level of entitlement and expectancy from fans that has led to abuse, vitriol and non stop complaining.
I enjoyed the Redknapp days, the football was open and exciting and we did achieve things, we could possibly have achieved more who knows and yes he did have Bale, Modric and VDV amongst others, but somebody and i don't know who deserves enormous praise for getting those players at Spurs, i didn't see them at Villa or Everton or even the clubs bigger than us because somebody at Spurs done the business.
Due to finances there is undoubtedly a ceiling for Tottenham under Enic but they can hardly be accused of doing a bad job.
So there is the question, when a club is over achieving to it's budget but has a miserable discontent fan base that moan non stop about everything is it a victim of it's own success?
