Arsenal ready to spend big

[Danners9]

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-madness-of-the-transfer-window

Arsenal fans were celebrating the Özil signing as if they won the bloody Champions League.

Tossers.

this is because they, like a lot of fans, are swept up in the hysteria of big fees rather than the concept of building a team.

They already have creative midfield options. They've just loaned a decent keeper to add to the 2 they already had and brought Flamini back. They didn't strengthen the defence or forwards. Ozil is like hanging an expensive painting to cover the crack in the wall.

He is good, though... no doubt about it.

 

[Darth Vega]

It's a lot like when we signed VDV. Everyone was so excited to sign a world class player after such a shit transfer window that ultimately we all temporarily forgot how bad of a window it actually was. We still needed additions in so many areas and after the initial come down of signing VDV, the cracks began to show.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

My mate at work, a proper Real Madrid fan says he isn't that sad to see Ozil leave.

Apparently he didn't have the stamina for the full 90 minutes in La Liga. How will he cope with the quicker pace of the Premier League?

 

[teok]

I some times wander if arsenal signed messi you would get people on here questioning it, he's an incredible player and suits their game perfectly.

Every one got so wound up with the media narrative of spurs signing loads of players and crazy old arsene signing nobody they forgot that load deals go through on the last day.

Utd will be kicking themselves though, wtf were they playing at? He is exactly what they needed.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

My mate at work, a proper Real Madrid fan says he isn't that sad to see Ozil leave.

Apparently he didn't have the stamina for the full 90 minutes in La Liga. How will he cope with the quicker pace of the Premier League?

Seemed to cope OK the with superior Bundesliga.

 

[InOffMeLeftShin]

I some times wander if arsenal signed messi you would get people on here questioning it, he's an incredible player and suits their game perfectly.

Every one got so wound up with the media narrative of spurs signing loads of players and crazy old arsene signing nobody they forgot that load deals go through on the last day.

Utd will be kicking themselves though, wtf were they playing at? He is exactly what they needed.

No one is doubting that he is an exceptional player. But Arsenal managed to go from being the butt of jokes to guaranteed CL qualifiers and potential title-winners by spending a lot of money on one big-name signing in a position that they weren't exactly short. Creativity is never really in short supply at Arsenal with players like Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere, Arteta etc. They pass the ball well (most of the time) and are incisive. But they had real issues in a lot of positions which their fans have been complaining about for quite a long time but they haven't addressed them at all. They still haven't got a player who can win the ball in the middle of the park, they don't have any cover at centre back (Sagna has played there this season), they don't have any cover at striker (they ended up keeping Bendtner as second option) and Carl Jenkinson is a starter!

If we had all of those issues our fans would be moaning and I imagine the Arsenal fans will be in a few weeks if Giroud gets injured or results don't go their way because physical teams can out muscle them in midfield. As great as Ozil is and he really is a brilliant player he just amplifies their strength but doesn't solve any of their weaknesses and that is why they won't win anything this season. Just too many holes in the side/squad.

 

[sbrustad]

No one is doubting that he is an exceptional player. But Arsenal managed to go from being the butt of jokes to guaranteed CL qualifiers and potential title-winners by spending a lot of money on one big-name signing in a position that they weren't exactly short. Creativity is never really in short supply at Arsenal with players like Cazorla, Rosicky, Wilshere, Arteta etc. They pass the ball well (most of the time) and are incisive. But they had real issues in a lot of positions which their fans have been complaining about for quite a long time but they haven't addressed them at all. They still haven't got a player who can win the ball in the middle of the park, they don't have any cover at centre back (Sagna has played there this season), they don't have any cover at striker (they ended up keeping Bendtner as second option) and Carl Jenkinson is a starter!

If we had all of those issues our fans would be moaning and I imagine the Arsenal fans will be in a few weeks if Giroud gets injured or results don't go their way because physical teams can out muscle them in midfield. As great as Ozil is and he really is a brilliant player he just amplifies their strength but doesn't solve any of their weaknesses and that is why they won't win anything this season. Just too many holes in the side/squad.

They sort of have a player that can win the ball in the middle of the park, but he would be fourth or fifth choice in our team. Flamini. And, if they choose to start him, who then do they leave out? Ramsey? Wilshere? Arteta?

Their defense is also very dodgy I agree, and while Vermaelen is still there he was a shadow of his former self last season (when he wasn't injured). They are decently covered for strikers I think, as both Walcott and Podolski can play as a lone striker although when Giroud plays they are mostly used on the wings. I doubt we'll see much of Bendtner this season even if Giroud picks up an injury.

Özil is quality, but they already have a great creative midfielder in Cazorla. They may elect to play Cazorla on the wings but in a race between him and Huddlestone I'd fancy good ol' Tom to win, and he'd be less influential than in his favoured position. Özil can also play on the wings, obviously, but why buy one of the best playmakers in the world if you're going to play him as a winger?

All said I agree with the gist of your post. Even though their squad isn't as thin as some would have us believe they still haven't really sorted out their squad. If they had brought in a quality defensive midfielder and a striker I would be much more worried than I am at the moment.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Arsenal's defence was better than ours last season and still is. Only one team conceded fewer goals than Arsenal last season. Why do people keep harping on about their defence being ropey ?

To say a side doesn't need a world class creative attacker is perverse. It's doesn't matter who they already have, Ozil will improve them, considerably. And neither he nor Cazorla will play as "wingers" they may play as wide attacking forwards but one of them will almost certainly play centrally.

When we'd already signed Chadli to play ARM people were still sucking each other off at the thought of Willian who plays in exactly the same position. But when Arsenal buy a massive upgrade on a position they already have it's a waste ?

In Ozil and Cazorla Arsenal now have two of the cleverest/talented players in this league and they have plenty of other quality attacking options too like Rosicky, Wilshere, Podolski, Walcott.

Delude yourselves not mon ami, Wenger has pulled off a master stroke with this signing. He's gilded the lily with one of the very best players of his type out there.

I was very optimistic we could finish above them this season, especially after watching us dominate their midfield on sunday, but Flamini and especially Ozil have got me recalibrating. Not so sure any more. World class players make a difference, like it or not.

Just ask yourselves how confident you'd be feeling if we had signed Ozil ?

 

[Darth Vega]

Arsenal's defence was better than ours last season and still is. Only one team conceded fewer goals than Arsenal last season. Why do people keep harping on about their defence being ropey ?

To say a side doesn't need a world class creative attacker is perverse. It's doesn't matter who they already have, Ozil will improve them, considerably. And neither he nor Cazorla will play as "wingers" they may play as wide attacking forwards but one of them will almost certainly play centrally.

When we'd already signed Chadli to play ARM people were still sucking each other off at the thought of Willian who plays in exactly the same position. But when Arsenal buy a massive upgrade on a position they already have it's a waste ?

In Ozil and Cazorla Arsenal now have two of the cleverest/talented players in this league and they have plenty of other quality attacking options too like Rosicky, Wilshere, Podolski, Walcott.

Delude yourselves not mon ami, Wenger has pulled off a master stroke with this signing. He's gilded the lily with one of the very best players of his type out there.

I was very optimistic we could finish above them this season, especially after watching us dominate their midfield on sunday, but Flamini and especially Ozil have got me recalibrating. Not so sure any more. World class players make a difference, like it or not.

Just ask yourselves how confident you'd be feeling if we had signed Ozil ?

I agree with what you've said on the most part but it's 3 games into the season and they've already been forced to play defenders out of position...They're a hamstring injury to Giroud away from having to play Bendtner upfront. Bendtner! I don't care who they have behind him, that's not exactly a sign of strength in depth.

The Ozil signing is exactly the same as when we signed VDV (except this is much more high profile). Everyone is so giddy over his signing that they're overlooking just what a poor transfer window they've actually had. I'm not denying that they haven't strengthened, but we're still well in with a shout to finish above them if we can gel quickly IMO.

 

[Mornstar]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/tf0dlFSOAi4

Must admit, this made me laugh quite a bit

 

[Riandor]

But this is the issue with Arsenal right here:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...e-aaron-ramsey-and-tomas-rosicky-8809931.html

Possibly 4 players out through injury... Özil alone doesn't solve Arsenal's issue of depth, i.e. they don't have any.

I always thought their first team was still pretty decent and us losing 1-0 showed that, but when injuries come along, they have zero replacements. God help them if Giroud gets injured.

 

[beats1]

Arsenal's defence was better than ours last season and still is. Only one team conceded fewer goals than Arsenal last season. Why do people keep harping on about their defence being ropey ?

To say a side doesn't need a world class creative attacker is perverse. It's doesn't matter who they already have, Ozil will improve them, considerably. And neither he nor Cazorla will play as "wingers" they may play as wide attacking forwards but one of them will almost certainly play centrally.

When we'd already signed Chadli to play ARM people were still sucking each other off at the thought of Willian who plays in exactly the same position. But when Arsenal buy a massive upgrade on a position they already have it's a waste ?

In Ozil and Cazorla Arsenal now have two of the cleverest/talented players in this league and they have plenty of other quality attacking options too like Rosicky, Wilshere, Podolski, Walcott.

Delude yourselves not mon ami, Wenger has pulled off a master stroke with this signing. He's gilded the lily with one of the very best players of his type out there.

I was very optimistic we could finish above them this season, especially after watching us dominate their midfield on sunday, but Flamini and especially Ozil have got me recalibrating. Not so sure any more. World class players make a difference, like it or not.

Just ask yourselves how confident you'd be feeling if we had signed Ozil ?

Their defence is ropey tbh but teams dont take advantage of it and only the bigger teams tend to, last season the reason why they were so good defensively was because they changed their style from keeping the ball all the time to defending as a team. They have a weak defensive but the whole team does press very well and doesnt give other teams the space to expliot it, I remember watching QPR batter them at the end of last season.

It will interesting how they change with Ozil here now, I wonder if they employ a higher line or they stick with playing deep. They are definitely willing to fight for a win from the start, which I didnt see as much from ourselves last season tbh. If they do start playing higher up, Mertesacker will be a weak link and Gibbs and Jenkinson are inexperienced tbh.

As for Ozil, he was part of a very counter attacking in Spain in Madrid and was often subbed off at 60mins, It will interesting how he copes with the faster PL. If he does cope he will no doubt make Arsenal much stronger as he will be a improvement on Rosicky, who has played well but let down at times with his final ball when under pressure and Ozil is a improvement on that.

 

[beats1]

Also those people saying they we had Bale last season and still finished behind them, it is worth remembering Bale only was performing like a £50mill or more player for the second half of the season

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Arsenal's defence was better than ours last season and still is. Only one team conceded fewer goals than Arsenal last season. Why do people keep harping on about their defence being ropey ?

To say a side doesn't need a world class creative attacker is perverse. It's doesn't matter who they already have, Ozil will improve them, considerably. And neither he nor Cazorla will play as "wingers" they may play as wide attacking forwards but one of them will almost certainly play centrally.

When we'd already signed Chadli to play ARM people were still sucking each other off at the thought of Willian who plays in exactly the same position. But when Arsenal buy a massive upgrade on a position they already have it's a waste ?

In Ozil and Cazorla Arsenal now have two of the cleverest/talented players in this league and they have plenty of other quality attacking options too like Rosicky, Wilshere, Podolski, Walcott.

Delude yourselves not mon ami, Wenger has pulled off a master stroke with this signing. He's gilded the lily with one of the very best players of his type out there.

I was very optimistic we could finish above them this season, especially after watching us dominate their midfield on sunday, but Flamini and especially Ozil have got me recalibrating. Not so sure any more. World class players make a difference, like it or not.

Just ask yourselves how confident you'd be feeling if we had signed Ozil ?

1. Speaking glowingly about Arsenal
2. Sudden change to French
3. Big praise for Wenger



Are you Arsene Wenger?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Their defence is ropey tbh but teams dont take advantage of it and only the bigger teams tend to, last season the reason why they were so good defensively was because they changed their style from keeping the ball all the time to defending as a team. They have a weak defensive but the whole team does press very well and doesnt give other teams the space to expliot it, I remember watching QPR batter them at the end of last season.

It will interesting how they change with Ozil here now, I wonder if they employ a higher line or they stick with playing deep. They are definitely willing to fight for a win from the start, which I didnt see as much from ourselves last season tbh. If they do start playing higher up, Mertesacker will be a weak link and Gibbs and Jenkinson are inexperienced tbh.

As for Ozil, he was part of a very counter attacking in Spain in Madrid and was often subbed off at 60mins, It will interesting how he copes with the faster PL. If he does cope he will no doubt make Arsenal much stronger as he will be a improvement on Rosicky, who has played well but let down at times with his final ball when under pressure and Ozil is a improvement on that.

I disagree about Arsenal's defence, but as you say, defending isn't just about the back 4/5, it's about the whole 11 and Arsenal had the second best defence in the league last year, part of that is that they keep the ball longer than almost anyone else in the EPL.

 

[JerryGarcia]

Talking about Arsenal keeping the ball, anyone else think that Wilshere and Walcott look lost for England because they've been so used to having more of it? The whole England team looked bad the other night but these two in particular have looked lost for a while now. I rate Walcott but every time I've seen Wilshere play recently he's looked over rated.

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Had to endure an hour or so yesterday listening to Gooners go on about Ozil and his assist record, we're going to win the league etc..

When I tried to point out his assist record was due to supplying Ronaldo, Higuain and Benzema, not Giroud and Podolski they literally could not understand that an assist was just another pass until someone put it in the back of the net.

 

[Dundalk_Spur]

Had to endure an hour or so yesterday listening to Gooners go on about Ozil and his assist record, we're going to win the league etc..

When I tried to point out his assist record was due to supplying Ronaldo, Higuain and Benzema, not Giroud and Podolski they literally could not understand that an assist was just another pass until someone put it in the back of the net.

Just point out the Tom Carroll "assist" for Bales winner at West Ham last season, always two sides to statistics.

 

[dave5150]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already but I have heard from someone high up in the FA (can let mods know who it was if they want) and he was saying that Arsenal were given a list of 3 available players (Ozil, Di Maria and one other) but were told that they would have to wait for the Bale deal to go through before being told which one of the three they would be allowed to buy!
Obviously they got a great player but it doesn't seem an especially sensible way of doing business.

 

[ethanedwards]

this is because they, like a lot of fans, are swept up in the hysteria of big fees rather than the concept of building a team.

They already have creative midfield options. They've just loaned a decent keeper to add to the 2 they already had and brought Flamini back. They didn't strengthen the defence or forwards. Ozil is like hanging an expensive painting to cover the crack in the wall.

He is good, though... no doubt about it.

They have been on championship winning form for the last 6 months, not sure what cracks they need covering.