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SuperLuka

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On a serious note, they and Liverpool are setting a horrible precedent in terms of respect for officials.

Lower league and grassroot officials will bear the brunt of this disrepect, when supporters see their clubs and managers saying stuff like this and going two-footed in on refs like this they will go at their local refs in the same way. This is bad.
They should face points deduction. They are trying to influence officials which is cheating.
 
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mark87

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be hilarious if the other clubs all released statements, even in lower divisions, just moaning about any old shit.

"Grimsby Town would like to address the performance of the referee in charge of our game this past Saturday. Following the conclusion of the game, we have had numerous complaints from our players stating the referee in question 'crop-dusted' them while in the vicinity of him. This is totally unacceptable behaviour from league officials and we in no way accept the reasoning was because of a 'dodgy ruby' the night before."
 

qqq1

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That statement is pathetic. The FA need to crack down on stuff like this. A manager having an emotional outburst after a game is one thing but releasing a statement the day after is different. Every team has decisions go against them but it's only Arsenal and Liverpool that react in this way.
 

glacierSpurs

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I don't like the way Liverpool and scum questioning the competency and integrity of the league and refereeing standards. If players or staff could be fined and warned from similar allegations and accusations in post match comments/social media posts, there is no way these statements from clubs are in any means acceptable. You guys are truly the ones disgraceful, fucking Mikel Arteta.
 

Dundalk_Spur

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muppetman

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I wonder if it's a case of a manager having too much power within the club. In any well run club, surely someone would have said "behave" when this was suggested?
 

spanishspur

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Unbelievable they feel it is correct to do this. Also I made the mistake of looking through it and the photo gallery from their day at Newcastle.
To me it shows a real problem as even before the game there is not a single player with a smile on his face.
Compare it to our pre match photos, like night and day.
The other thing I noticed the only 2 photos of Arteta and he is outside his technical area and almost on the pitch
Ban him.
Anyway, I won’t be going to that site again 🤣

They are pathetic
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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Mentioned this about Partey to a gooner in a WhatsApp group, he came back with that we signed a rapist. Their fans stupidity knows no bounds.

Desperate stuff.

False equivalence.

Tell him one was cleared and never charged.

The other had his WhatsApp confession all over the internet, and still isn't free to travel to Spain.
 

Johnny J

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Aug 18, 2012
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That club statement is just as pathetic and embarrassing as Arteta's post-match rant, and just as embarrassing as the statement Liverpool put out after our game.

Maybe the ball was out, maybe it wasn't, but the pics I've seen aren't definitive. Maybe it was a foul, maybe it wasn't.

Yes, it's highly unusual for three VAR checks in one sequence leading to a goal. But there were three things that needed checking, so they checked three things. That's just normal.

I think Arsenal's rage comes almost from the perception that with three checks surely not all of them could go against them. But that's not rational, it's emotional.

Sometimes decisions go against you, and it shows just how fucking entitled some clubs are that one high-profile example means the whole standard of officiating must be examined.

I happen to agree that the general standard of reffing this seasons hasn't been amazing, at least from the games I've watched. Particularly this trend of letting some players foul the entire match with impunity.

But there will always be high-profile contentious calls and that has always been part of football.

If we ever put out a statement like that I'll say exactly the same thing.
 

JamieSpursCommunityUser

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On a serious note, they and Liverpool are setting a horrible precedent in terms of respect for officials.

Lower league and grassroot officials will bear the brunt of this disrepect, when supporters see their clubs and managers saying stuff like this and going two-footed in on refs like this they will go at their local refs in the same way. This is bad.

I don't buy all this "for the good of the game" nonsense.

If it were for the good of the game they'd call a meeting with PGMOL through the PL channels, and have a discussion.

At best this is making the talent pool for prospective quality referees even smaller.

At worst it's putting referees at all levels in physical danger.
 

Tafspur

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Dec 1, 2011
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There is a difference between the Liverpool and A**E situations. There was an admitted mistake in the Liverpool case and PGMOL apologised for the error. There is no error in the A**E case but they are pushing PGMOL to acknowledge an error that does not exist and they are therefore on very shaky ground because they are effectively accusing the match officials, not of making a mistake ( a la Liverpool) but of incompetence. Surely this constitutes 'bringing the game into disrepute?'

I think how PGMOL and/or Prem League react to this provocation will be very interesting.
 

rossdapep

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That club statement is just as pathetic and embarrassing as Arteta's post-match rant, and just as embarrassing as the statement Liverpool put out after our game.

Maybe the ball was out, maybe it wasn't, but the pics I've seen aren't definitive. Maybe it was a foul, maybe it wasn't.

Yes, it's highly unusual for three VAR checks in one sequence leading to a goal. But there were three things that needed checking, so they checked three things. That's just normal.

I think Arsenal's rage comes almost from the perception that with three checks surely not all of them could go against them. But that's not rational, it's emotional.

Sometimes decisions go against you, and it shows just how fucking entitled some clubs are that one high-profile example means the whole standard of officiating must be examined.

I happen to agree that the general standard of reffing this seasons hasn't been amazing, at least from the games I've watched. Particularly this trend of letting some players foul the entire match with impunity.

But there will always be high-profile contentious calls and that has always been part of football.

If we ever put out a statement like that I'll say exactly the same thing.
Clear to me.

Kick up a massive stink about it and next time there are contentious decisions, you'll get them in your favour as the ref worries about the fallout.
 

elfy

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Jan 1, 2013
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be hilarious if the other clubs all released statements, even in lower divisions, just moaning about any old shit.
I hope we release a statement about the Pedro Mendes goal at Old Trafford!

It's been nearly 20 years and I'm STILL salty about it!
 

XIIIMPC

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Arsenal releasing a statement for this is even worse than Liverpool. Liverpool's was a genuine and indisputable error (even if their behaviour afterwards, including Klopp's remarks, was Trumpian insanity). This is just a bunch of fairly debatable stuff.
 
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