Aston Villa

[hughy]

6 ever present clubs.....isn't it?

7. Us, Chelsea, Villa, Everton, United, Pool and Arsenal.

 

[Legacy]

Villa are the Liverpool of the Midlands. I've been surrounded by Villa fans for my whole life and so many footballing debates descend to them crowing about how they're such a huge club because they won the league a few times in the 1890s along with being the "best" club in the Midlands. Now that West Brom have overtaken them in the league, they're even more petty and stuck in the past. And in all the years I've gone to Villa Park, I've never experienced anything remotely like a good atmosphere there.

I hope they go down and stay down for a few years.

 

[DJS]

I think they should stick with Lambert as I just have a feeling it will click into place with them eventually.

He did inherit a bit of a mess but made some nice purchases in Vlaar.

 

[dontcallme]

6 ever present clubs.....isn't it?

Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs,Everton and Villa

 

[RichieS]

I think they should stick with Lambert as I just have a feeling it will click into place with them eventually.

He did inherit a bit of a mess but made some nice purchases in Vlaar.

If it doesn't ruin them financially, going down could actually work out quite well for them with Lambert in charge long term.

 

[Gbspurs]

Not sure why i thought it was 6! Can't count. Everton had a few lucky escapes though!

 

[Casparian]

If it doesn't ruin them financially, going down could actually work out quite well for them with Lambert in charge long term.

Some interesting comments from Vital Villa..

The revenue is in euros so it would be about £81M. As always Deloitte does not break it down outside the top 20. But my estimate would be (approx) broadcasting revenue £43M, Gate revenue £22M and commercial revenue £16M

If we were relegated our gate revenue and commercial revenue would also drop. I would guess that in the championship we would struggle to reach a total revenue of £35 million.

But there would of course be the parachute payment which is designed to help clubs bear the initial financial impact of relegation. That was £15M each last season for Blues West Ham and Blackpool.

Next season with a guaranteed £60M even the small Premier League clubs can expect a minimum revenue of £90M.

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I am no accountant but to me if we go down we are screwed. Maybe I am wrong here as I dont understand it, but here is my simplistic reasoning.

Revenue 81m now , wages app. 60m now - we can handle that.

Go down

Lose 42m of TV money, so just this (and not taking our other losses like gate money / sponsopship etc) our revenue is 39m - wage bill 60m - 21 million in red.

This would mean one of two things

1. Administration

2. Randy covers the shortfall and coughs up the 21m to put us back into the black. however, this will lead to a transfer embargo so we cannot buy players, if we can't buy players, we will get worse and may suffer further relegation, we will lose more money and Randy has to put more in.

3. There will come a point where Randy will not bail us out. What then ?

Can people not see what going down will do to this club. Are you seriously that niaive, or just not bothered.

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Having looked into things I cant see us going into admin in short term as (above) Randy will just pump the money in to put us back into the black. Se he would probabl llook to sell.

However, from next year League rules state any club doing this will have the penalty of a transfer embargo - so we could not buy players, thus our chances of getting promoted is the same as Barnsley or Huddlesfield.

We will be totally and utterly finished as a club.

I just don't get how some people can't see this , it baffles and worries me.

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http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom...s Group/uk-sbg-football-money-league-2013.pdf

Not sure if it's posted elsewhere but we dropped two places to 13th due to missing out on Champ's League..

Tottenham Hotspur drop two places to 13th position in the Deloitte Football Money League, with total revenue decreasing by £19.3m (12%) to £144.2m (€178.2m) in 2011/12. This is primarily down to the failure to qualify for the UEFA Champions League, following their successful debut in the 2010/11 season. Spurs had an ultimately frustrating 2011/12 season, reaching the semi-finals of The FA Cup, and despite finishing in 4th place in the Premier League, missing out on Champions League qualification owing to Chelsea’s triumph in the Champions League final.

Spurs’ broadcast revenue has decreased by £21.5m (26%) to £61.6m (€76.2m), as a direct result of missing out on Champions League football. UEFA distributions of €3m (£2.4m) for Spurs’ group stage exit in the UEFA Europa League pale in comparison to the previous season’s €31.1m for their quarter-final run in the Champions League. On the domestic front, Spurs received £57.4m (€70.9m) in broadcast payments from the Premier League, an increase of 8% (£4.3m) from the previous season payments as a result of finishing one place higher and having six more live matches broadcast.
Matchday revenue decreased slightly by £2.2m (5%) to £41.1m (€50.8m), in part due to one less home game played compared to the 2010/11 season. Capacity constraints at White Hart Lane remain a concern, limiting Spurs’ average matchday revenue per home match to £1.6m (€2m).

Spurs continue to impress on the commercial front however, with revenue increasing by £4.4m (12%) to £41.5m (€51.3m). 2011/12 was the second season where they incorporated a dual shirt sponsorship set-up; with Aurasma owning the rights for Premier League matches, and Investec taking the Cup (both domestic and European) matches.
Spurs have received planning permission to build a new stadium adjacent to its existing site and this will play a key role in the regeneration of the surrounding Tottenham area. Phase One of the development has started, however it is a major scheme and it will, therefore, be some time before Spurs will be able to compete with the matchday revenues that their North London rivals Arsenal achieve, highlighting the importance of securing Champions League football in their efforts to climb the Money League table in the shorter-term.

 

[RichieS]

They'd have to shift quite a few players to bring the wage bill down, but luckily for them most of their highest earners are fairly saleable. I think they could fairly easily find new homes for Given, Vlaar, Bent, Agbonlahor, N'Zogbia, Albrighton and Benteke. While that significantly weakens them, the Norwich squad that Lambert got out of that league shouldn't have been strong enough to do it. He just needs a bit of time to build a modest squad with the togetherness that his Norwich one had.