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AVB, Emmanuel Adebayor and Steffen Freund

spurs-r-us

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Obviously it's from the Mail, which is having a field day after the announcement, but an article caught my eye.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...bust-Freund-Adebayor.html?ico=sport^headlines

REVEALED: How it all went wrong for AVB... Levy's humiliation, his bust-ups with Freund and Adebayor that lost him respect

Up at Tottenham’s magnificent new training complex in Enfield, north London, it is common knowledge that Villas-Boas and Adebayor cannot stand the sight of each other.

The striker has played once this season, a half-hearted effort after coming on as a half-time substitute during the 6-0 mauling at the Etihad Stadium.

The deterioration of their relationship is the reason Adebayor was instructed to train with the youths at the start of the season. As a senior professional, Adebayor has never forgiven his manager.

Villas-Boas’ response to the problem up front was, apparently, to remind the Tottenham chairman that he wanted to sign Hulk from Zenit St Petersburg. Yet this had never been discussed in the summer.

Next on the agenda was Steffen Freund’s role in the coaching set-up after a spectacular fall-out between the pair when Tottenham were beaten 1-0 by Arsenal on September 1.

Freund, a former Tottenham player who returned to the club as a coach at Levy’s insistence, had always taken a seat next to Villas-Boas on the bench.

But after the derby, when they had a huge disagreement over the team’s approach and the substitutions, Villas-Boas promoted Luis Martins and relegated Freund in the seating positions.

Martins, who arrived at Tottenham with Villas-Boas when he was appointed in 2012, became the manager’s primary confidant. Inevitably it created tensions at the training ground and Freund felt alienated as his role vanished.

I'm as sad as anyone that we're starting again, but now it looks like the Chelsea fans were right about AVB. He may have taken a more roundabout route to alienating Freund, Adebayor and BAE than strolling in and cordoning off their parking spots as with Nicolas Anelka and Alex at the bridge - but the immaturity of it shines through. Only Levy and the staff know the real AVB, maybe it wasn't all football.
 

Montasura

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You hear too many of these stories about many different clubs for them all to be false. No smoke without fire and all that. In which case it amazes me that these incredibly highly paid people all with incredibly important positions at multi million pound businesses can act so childishly.

Obviously I've no idea if this particular story is true but I suspect well be reading more like it in the near future.
 

vavaboom

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Well there was quite obviously a bust up with Freund, Ade and BAE, and we already knew him and Sherwood were at odds throughout his time, so I guess now we might get some insight to these bust ups.

Did he really cordon off Anelka and Alex's parking spots at Chelsea?
 

sim0n

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AVB has not shown he can "lead" a group,.... but he has proven he can alienate individuals...
 

Gilzeanking

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For me , it was always a problem that AVB is so young . He needs a few more years of life experience before he can motivate millionaire footballers just a few years younger than himself . Man management is one of his glaring problems imo .Not sure the man can lead yet . This is the Fail so pinch of salt needed of course.

How ever you paint it AVB has not emerged from this blameless . We'd all noticed Freund moving back and the different atmosphere on the bench . The 'AVB wanted to leave' stuff which we see a bit now is pretty pathetic 'fraid . If it is true then sorry , only response I can make is....wuss .

Been behaving like a callow youth it seems . As the OP said its all a bit sad .
 

CheeseGromit

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I hope so, that's brilliant lol

Funny if true ( and happens somewhere else)

Frightening if true What is the message to every body else. Never convince people of the ultimate objective with behaviour like that. Is that what Wenger, fergusson, Moyes would do ?
 

spurs-r-us

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Did he really cordon off Anelka and Alex's parking spots at Chelsea?
Yes. He allegedly told them they were no longer welcome to even park where the first teamers did, let alone actually train with them. Not sure he physically taped the spots off, but the point stands.
 

Donki

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Wouldn't be at all surprised and has shown exactly what the problem is in the squad could be. As a manager personal feelings shouldn't come into it at all, you use the best tools you have to do the job. A manager shouldn't be causing rifts or tension in a squad he should be solving these very problems.
 

Gbspurs

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Obvious he fell out with freund as he disappeared from the touchline lately. My only question with Freund is why is he not involved with Sherwood now? What's he doing at the club now? Maybe dropped to cover the youth team?
 

Breezer

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I did write some time ago that AVB had a fall out with Freund!
Hard to believe someone could fall out with Freund. Everyone at the training ground loves him. He's the only one who makes time to talk with less senior coaches and staff. People disagree over tactics all the time but you shouldn't fall out over it.
 

Josiebyar

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obviously everything is gonna be made to get the blame on AVB's camp and distract the fans away from the real problem....ENIC and Levy.....12 managers in how many years again?
 

spurs-r-us

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obviously everything is gonna be made to get the blame on AVB's camp and distract the fans away from the real problem....ENIC and Levy.....12 managers in how many years again?
Couldn't disagree more. He's far from ideal, but he has us in a good place right now. Would you rather have Tan, or Allam, or Venky?

I'm a big Levy fan.
 

Misfit

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I like Freund. Was quite a well regarded coach in his own right before becoming our #2. Has he left the club also?

Edit: NM. Just read he stays as one of the coaching team.
 

ackie

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Hard to believe someone could fall out with Freund. Everyone at the training ground loves him. He's the only one who makes time to talk with less senior coaches and staff. People disagree over tactics all the time but you shouldn't fall out over it.
Sorry, just asking Is this ITK?
 

gavspur

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Obvious he fell out with freund as he disappeared from the touchline lately. My only question with Freund is why is he not involved with Sherwood now? What's he doing at the club now? Maybe dropped to cover the youth team?
I thought he was involved, but the Portuguese guys had all left?
 
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