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AVB threatens to pull out of Tottenham talks

m*****73

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Turning into classic Levy case of haggle haggle haggle haggle haggle fail

Sadly, I agree with this.... our chairman isn't as smart as he thinks he is. I'm amazed at how many posters on this forum continue to spout the same old "in Levy we trust" line without any tangible evidence of his supposed brilliance in appointing managers or in the transfer market.

We've failed to get rid of the deadwood in our squad over the last couple of seasons because of Levy's over-valuation of our players. Why are Bentley, Jenas, Gio, etc. still at the Lane despite the club having received bids (according to both the papers and some well-respected ITK on this site) for them? Why did we fail to land any of Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi, Leandro, Hazard, etc. despite having supposedly put in bids for all of them (again, according to the papers and our ITK)?

Why did Levy appoint Jacques Santini? Why did he fire Martin Jol in the manner in which he did? Why did he appoint Ramos?

Still think Levy is so brilliant?!?!

Regardless of whether you were a fan of Harry's or not, in any case, why did Levy sack Redknapp without having another manager already lined up?

Unfortunately, I think this is going to be yet another summer of empty promises and ultimately disappointment for us.

We'll probably end up with a mediocre manager, who is content to cede significant control to a Director of Football, and parting with either or both of Modric and/or Van der Vaart with lesser quality brought in as replacements.... and of course, Levy will use Harry as his scapegoat because we didn't finish top-3....
 

leffe186

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Sep 2, 2004
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When do transfer and managerial scoops ever have quotes? The whole point of an article like this is that it is not the public knowledge of when a manager is giving a press conference saying he is the new manager of X club.

Almost as ludicrous is dismissing any article we don't like as a "Spurs media conspiracy." Honestly, we are not Liverpool fans, are we? Constantly bitching that anything written about them that doesn't kiss their arse is part of a London-based media conspiracy. It is absolutely ridiculous, as much as believing that every transfer story that says we are signing a £30m striker is gospel because you so want to believe it.

And yet, when I read the thread title I thought, "well I presume that is an article in either the Mail or the Guardian". Lo, and behold.

Of course these articles don't need to have quotes, but both the above papers have toed a pretty consistent sports editorial line on us.
 

tototoner

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Sadly, I agree with this.... our chairman isn't as smart as he thinks he is. I'm amazed at how many posters on this forum continue to spout the same old "in Levy we trust" line without any tangible evidence of his supposed brilliance in appointing managers or in the transfer market.

We've failed to get rid of the deadwood in our squad over the last couple of seasons because of Levy's over-valuation of our players. Why are Bentley, Jenas, Gio, etc. still at the Lane despite the club having received bids (according to both the papers and some well-respected ITK on this site) for them? Why did we fail to land any of Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi, Leandro, Hazard, etc. despite having supposedly put in bids for all of them (again, according to the papers and our ITK)?

Why did Levy appoint Jacques Santini? Why did he fire Martin Jol in the manner in which he did? Why did he appoint Ramos?

Still think Levy is so brilliant?!?!

Regardless of whether you were a fan of Harry's or not, in any case, why did Levy sack Redknapp without having another manager already lined up?

Unfortunately, I think this is going to be yet another summer of empty promises and ultimately disappointment for us.

We'll probably end up with a mediocre manager, who is content to cede significant control to a Director of Football, and parting with either or both of Modric and/or Van der Vaart with lesser quality brought in as replacements.... and of course, Levy will use Harry as his scapegoat because we didn't finish top-3....

I agree and I'm usually very optimistic when it comes to Tottenham
 

SpursOldBoy

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Aug 18, 2005
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Sadly, I agree with this.... our chairman isn't as smart as he thinks he is. I'm amazed at how many posters on this forum continue to spout the same old "in Levy we trust" line without any tangible evidence of his supposed brilliance in appointing managers or in the transfer market.

We've failed to get rid of the deadwood in our squad over the last couple of seasons because of Levy's over-valuation of our players. Why are Bentley, Jenas, Gio, etc. still at the Lane despite the club having received bids (according to both the papers and some well-respected ITK on this site) for them? Why did we fail to land any of Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi, Leandro, Hazard, etc. despite having supposedly put in bids for all of them (again, according to the papers and our ITK)?

Why did Levy appoint Jacques Santini? Why did he fire Martin Jol in the manner in which he did? Why did he appoint Ramos?

Still think Levy is so brilliant?!?!

Regardless of whether you were a fan of Harry's or not, in any case, why did Levy sack Redknapp without having another manager already lined up?

Unfortunately, I think this is going to be yet another summer of empty promises and ultimately disappointment for us.

We'll probably end up with a mediocre manager, who is content to cede significant control to a Director of Football, and parting with either or both of Modric and/or Van der Vaart with lesser quality brought in as replacements.... and of course, Levy will use Harry as his scapegoat because we didn't finish top-3....

That is my concern too. I think he is acting like a kid in a sweety shop atm, he's spoilt for choice and my fear is he will end up picking a dud.
 

Wiener

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Jun 24, 2005
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Sadly, I agree with this.... our chairman isn't as smart as he thinks he is. I'm amazed at how many posters on this forum continue to spout the same old "in Levy we trust" line without any tangible evidence of his supposed brilliance in appointing managers or in the transfer market.

We've failed to get rid of the deadwood in our squad over the last couple of seasons because of Levy's over-valuation of our players. Why are Bentley, Jenas, Gio, etc. still at the Lane despite the club having received bids (according to both the papers and some well-respected ITK on this site) for them? Why did we fail to land any of Fabiano, Llorente, Rossi, Leandro, Hazard, etc. despite having supposedly put in bids for all of them (again, according to the papers and our ITK)?

Why did Levy appoint Jacques Santini? Why did he fire Martin Jol in the manner in which he did? Why did he appoint Ramos?

Still think Levy is so brilliant?!?!

Regardless of whether you were a fan of Harry's or not, in any case, why did Levy sack Redknapp without having another manager already lined up?

Unfortunately, I think this is going to be yet another summer of empty promises and ultimately disappointment for us.

We'll probably end up with a mediocre manager, who is content to cede significant control to a Director of Football, and parting with either or both of Modric and/or Van der Vaart with lesser quality brought in as replacements.... and of course, Levy will use Harry as his scapegoat because we didn't finish top-3....

Why have we consistently finished top half since Levy took over? When he took over George Graham was our manager and Neil Sullivan was our player of the year ffs. The architect of the "one-nil to the Arse" brand of football and a Scottish goalkeeper (I love Scotland by the way).

Perhaps not "tangible evidence" but to me enough to suggest that he has done some things right. Criticism can be good, but perhaps make it more measured.
 

spursphil

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Aug 8, 2008
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I went for a job interview today but told them to stuff their job where the sun don't shine after i found out they were interviewing other people as well.:)
What a load of crap! Its standard practice to interview as many people as you can for any given post. How else do you compare candidates? The story is total bullshit in my eyes.
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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listened to a few Portugese correspondents this morning and none of them think AVB will go to Tottenham
So the portugese say AVB isn't coming to us
The French say Blanc isn't coming to us

So who is:eek:
 

Blake Griffin

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Oct 3, 2011
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I went for a job interview today but told them to stuff their job where the sun don't shine after i found out they were interviewing other people as well.:)
What a load of crap! Its standard practice to interview as many people as you can for any given post. How else do you compare candidates? The story is total bullshit in my eyes.

because whatever job you interviewed for is hardly the same as becoming manager of tottenham hotspur. i mocked liverpool for their multiple candidate interview circus, so i'm disappointed if that is what's happening here. i was sure that levy would've been talking to our to-be manager a long time before harry got the chop but as each day passes it seems more and more like we've only just started the process which is a complete joke, it's not as though we were 100% happy with harry and out of nowhere he suddenly resigned ..
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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a manager's position at this level is hardly the same thing as slinging in an application form to the ginger nut at the drive through at your local KFC.
 

SteveH

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Jul 21, 2003
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Capello, Pleat or AVB. We will know when "they" deem fit. All this whinging and whining is a wast of energy! Go for a walk or watch the T20 on telly :)
 

m*****73

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Dec 15, 2005
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Why have we consistently finished top half since Levy took over?.

Mate, if "top half" is your measure of success, then I'm sure you can say that he's done a great job. Personally, I believe we should be aiming a little higher than that...

If you look at our league positions during Levy's tenure (10th, 14th, 9th, 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th) you'll clearly see that we've done best under Jol and Redknapp. In the intervening periods, Levy's appointments of Santini and Ramos didn't exactly work out too well, did they?

All I'm saying is that I do not agree with those "in Levy we trust" posters who constantly give him the credit for everything that's gone right (i.e. his appointment of Jol and Redknapp) but ignore his mistakes - or worse, those who blame Redknapp for Levy's mistakes.

Levy takes some of the credit and some of the blame - as do the managers and the players. But I can't stand this "in Levy we trust" crap that some posters constantly resort to.

It makes no sense to me for Redknapp to be sacked without having an alternative in place. I can't imagine United or Arsenal letting Ferguson or Wenger walk away without their successors being available. Levy - by contrast - is following the Alan Sugar handbook on "How to Run a Football Club".
 

SteveH

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Jul 21, 2003
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Mate, if "top half" is your measure of success, then I'm sure you can say that he's done a great job. Personally, I believe we should be aiming a little higher than that...

If you look at our league positions during Levy's tenure (10th, 14th, 9th, 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th) you'll clearly see that we've done best under Jol and Redknapp. In the intervening periods, Levy's appointments of Santini and Ramos didn't exactly work out too well, did they?

All I'm saying is that I do not agree with those "in Levy we trust" posters who constantly give him the credit for everything that's gone right (i.e. his appointment of Jol and Redknapp) but ignore his mistakes - or worse, those who blame Redknapp for Levy's mistakes.

Levy takes some of the credit and some of the blame - as do the managers and the players. But I can't stand this "in Levy we trust" crap that some posters constantly resort to.

It makes no sense to me for Redknapp to be sacked without having an alternative in place. I can't imagine United or Arsenal letting Ferguson or Wenger walk away without their successors being available. Levy - by contrast - is following the Alan Sugar handbook on "How to Run a Football Club".

Levy 'may' have already got a replacement but he cant announce it yet? We just dont know what is happening.
Why bother making things up or blaming anybody for anything. We just dont know! Frustrating yes, but fact.
 

StartingPrice

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Feb 13, 2004
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Levy 'may' have already got a replacement but he cant announce it yet? We just dont know what is happening.
Why bother making things up or blaming anybody for anything. We just dont know! Frustrating yes, but fact.

It's the Tottenham way, M8 ;)
 

spursphil

Tottenham To The Bone
Aug 8, 2008
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because whatever job you interviewed for is hardly the same as becoming manager of tottenham hotspur. i mocked liverpool for their multiple candidate interview circus, so i'm disappointed if that is what's happening here. i was sure that levy would've been talking to our to-be manager a long time before harry got the chop but as each day passes it seems more and more like we've only just started the process which is a complete joke, it's not as though we were 100% happy with harry and out of nowhere he suddenly resigned ..
I would like to think that a club the size of Tottenham would explore every avenue in finding our new manager, and if that means interviewing several candidates then so be it, how else do we find out if the new man suits the club.
Levy is a very busy man, he's had a death in the family recently, he's dealing with the new training ground and stadium, transfers and players contracts etc. We come on sites like this and expect answers to our questions almost instantly, life dosn't work like that, very rarely does it run smoothly.
Me, i don't care how long the process takes as long as we get the right man for the job.
 

Wiener

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Jun 24, 2005
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Mate, if "top half" is your measure of success, then I'm sure you can say that he's done a great job. Personally, I believe we should be aiming a little higher than that...

If you look at our league positions during Levy's tenure (10th, 14th, 9th, 5th, 5th, 11th, 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th) you'll clearly see that we've done best under Jol and Redknapp. In the intervening periods, Levy's appointments of Santini and Ramos didn't exactly work out too well, did they?

All I'm saying is that I do not agree with those "in Levy we trust" posters who constantly give him the credit for everything that's gone right (i.e. his appointment of Jol and Redknapp) but ignore his mistakes - or worse, those who blame Redknapp for Levy's mistakes.

Levy takes some of the credit and some of the blame - as do the managers and the players. But I can't stand this "in Levy we trust" crap that some posters constantly resort to.

It makes no sense to me for Redknapp to be sacked without having an alternative in place. I can't imagine United or Arsenal letting Ferguson or Wenger walk away without their successors being available. Levy - by contrast - is following the Alan Sugar handbook on "How to Run a Football Club".

On balance Levy has done a good job. You forget quite how bad it was when he took over. Turning a big and sick club like Tottenham around into a going concern (as opposed to the route used with City or the Chavs) is no mean feat. The achievements are real and look to be sustainable.

Is your problem with the "In Levy we trust" brigade or with Levy? If it's the former, you are simply on the other end of the spectrum. If it's the latter your case, as you present it that is, is weak.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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That is my concern too. I think he is acting like a kid in a sweety shop atm, he's spoilt for choice and my fear is he will end up picking a dud.

I'm begining to think that Levy is Joe Lewis's puppet and it's Lewis who is loading the gun for Levy to fire. The problem is that Lewis is trying to run things from a boat moored off the Bahamas and not from an office in N17 and is divorced from reality somewhat.
 
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