AVB v 'Journalists' Ashton & Samuels

[Bus-Conductor]

The whole point of the "we" incident was certain journos twisting exactly what was meant, trying to be as decisive as possible and making problems for AVB with his group of players.

I'm glad he called them out for the spiteful little trick it was, but he should have stopped there.

I actually think we owe Sugar plenty as a club, but he was hardly the best judge of a manager was he.

 

[CrazyHeart]

... I actually think we owe Sugar plenty as a club, but he was hardly the best judge of a manager was he.

Ancient history means little when one constantly pukes over the club he's supposed to support, under the pretext of directional disagreement. Sorry, but I'm kinda pissed at the guy right now!

 

[gio747]

Is it really twisting words though.

Brendan Rodgers after a disappointing loss, says "blame me, not the players, ultimately it is my responsibility", not passing the buck onto anybody else.
AVB says "we should be ashamed our ourselves", passing the buck onto everybody at the club including the players, as well as taking a little bit himself.
Very different approach.

I can't ever remember Ferguson saying 'blame me'. I do however recall him saying on multiple occasions 'Players out there should be ashamed of themselves'. Them players should have felt ashamed after Man City, AVB obviously got things badly wrong but 6-0 wrong? I don't think so. What fuck wit of a player could listen to that comment and think to himself 'he's undeservedly blaming us for getting beat 6-0?

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Ancient history means little when one constantly pukes over the club he's supposed to support, under the pretext of directional disagreement. Sorry, but I'm kinda pissed at the guy right now!

Sugar was bang out of order for what he said. Hardly going to help, no matter what the truth.

 

[TheSecretNonFootballer]

I can't ever remember Ferguson saying 'blame me'. I do however recall him saying on multiple occasions 'Players out there should be ashamed of themselves'. Them players should have felt ashamed after Man City, AVB obviously got things badly wrong but 6-0 wrong? I don't think so. What fuck wit of a player could listen to that comment and think to himself 'he's undeservedly blaming us for getting beat 6-0?

I think that is just how he did things at Utd. I remember when De Gea was first starting out for them and not doing so well. He'd had a bad half and at half time the host (I forget his name) said to Neville, "he'll need an arm around him". Neville immediately rejected that and said it doesn't work like that at Utd. If you're signed, you're expected to have a champion's mentality. If you don't have it, you better get one quickly. He was fairly unique in that respect but with the record he had he could pretty much demand whatever he wanted.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

In conclusion:

 

[Skye Sauces]

In conclusion:

If a picture could paint a thousand words!

The smug look on Redknapps face says it all.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Big debate about this on talksport at minute. Cundy is such a twat even west ham and arsenal fans are backing AVB up Cundys having none of it yet he wont criticise Mourinho, wanker.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Goldstein is brilliant making a complete mug out of Cundy, not one caller has agreed with him

 

[Wirral Spurs]

Big debate about this on talksport at minute. Cundy is such a twat even west ham and arsenal fans are backing AVB up Cundys having none of it yet he wont criticise Mourinho, wanker.

More totally biased punditry, ridiculous that we are subjected to it.

 

[Capocrimini]

I applaud AVB and even with our questionable form, I want him to stay, fight through this period and make these punks eat their words. The media clearly have a dislike for him that's been clear since his first day at Chelski, some of the stuff would be comparable to bullying.

 

[ShelfSide18]

It's a dangerous game he's playing here for obvious reasons, and the biggest reason of all is that he's writing their headlines for them at the moment. This is what the press do, they trade in crisis and scandals, so they create them, nurture them then move on to the next one, and the next. It sells papers, and AVB is selling papers right now and they can write whatever shit they want, because their bosses see papers sold and hits on websites.

That said, there is a part of me that admires him for sticking it to them, and that prick Sugar who should stick to hiring the biggest fuckwit he can find on the apprentice, and hopefully he can use it to create and us and them, siege mentality within Spurs as Mourinho has done with his teams in the past. I'd fucking love to see a banner in the Park Lane next week saying 'We is us'. Let's use this as motivation to go forward.

 

[spursandbarca]

Cundy is a plonker. For a man who once played for us thunk hed show a little respect.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

It's a dangerous game he's playing here for obvious reasons, and the biggest reason of all is that he's writing their headlines for them at the moment. This is what the press do, they trade in crisis and scandals, so they create them, nurture them then move on to the next one, and the next. It sells papers, and AVB is selling papers right now and they can write whatever shit they want, because their bosses see papers sold and hits on websites.

That said, there is a part of me that admires him for sticking it to them, and that prick Sugar who should stick to hiring the biggest fuckwit he can find on the apprentice, and hopefully he can use it to create and us and them, siege mentality within Spurs as Mourinho has done with his teams in the past. I'd fucking love to see a banner in the Park Lane next week saying 'We is us'. Let's use this as motivation to go forward.

Quite a few people have said this. It would be great to get this started. It would be a real fuck you to the journalists and show that we're united as a club.

 

[Kiedis]

In conclusion:

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Big debate about this on talksport at minute. Cundy is such a twat even west ham and arsenal fans are backing AVB up Cundys having none of it yet he wont criticise Mourinho, wanker.

Cundy hates Tottenham, seems very bitter about his time with us. What was he saying?

 

[CrazyHeart]

Okay, I'll take back what I said about Sam Allardyce - I think he was sticking up for managers in general against the press... sheesh - I gotta go take a chill pill, these journos and Alan Sugar just got me all fired up!

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Cundy is very very good at winding people up and getting them to call in. If people didn't call and respond to his views, Talksport would ditch him pretty quickly.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Cundy hates Tottenham, seems very bitter about his time with us. What was he saying?

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Basically that AVB was wrong and immature for calling out Ashton, Ashton was entitled to his opinion. Goldstein then pulled Cundy and said he misquoted him and AVB was right.

I only listened for 20-30 minutes but there were calls from Hammers, Gooners and Toon fans all backing AVB to the hilt which was great.

Cundy was just dead against AVB in every way, it was so obvious, as has been said above you would think with him being an ex Spur he would show a bit more respect. Cundy found it hard to criticise Mourinho even when Goldstein brought up the infamous immature 'eye-poking ' incident.

 

[sunnydelight786]

Cundy is a plonker. For a man who once played for us thunk hed show a little respect.

Tbh we have had some utter bell-ends play for us who are now making a career in the media. Jamie Redknapp anyone......