#AvbIn!!

[idontgetit]

Agreed... but there was no hindsight on my part with Sherwood - I, along with many others here totally saw this coming. It was sad that a lot of people were blindsided by the steamrolling of lesser teams by Sherwood, capitalising on the work AVB did... but ah well... Gunners next...

The big hope I had for Sherwood was that due to him coming through the club he wouldn't shake everything up like a new manager would. Keep AVB's well drilled cohesiveness but put creative players in to it. Fuck me we can't have nice things though can we

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

So you'd rather have no European football and still do fuck all in the league, league cup and FA cup?
The Europa League could be our only chance of Champions League qualification

I also think fans underestimate how highly the Europa league is regarded among foreign players. If we don't qualify for it then it might influence some players decision to ask for a move or our attractiveness to potential signings.

 

[dudu]

I also think fans underestimate how highly the Europa league is regarded among foreign players. If we don't qualify for it then it might influence some players decision to ask for a move or our attractiveness to potential signings.

Especially as it will be a route into the CL next year.

 

[Shadydan]

So you'd rather have no European football and still do fuck all in the league, league cup and FA cup?
The Europa League could be our only chance of Champions League qualification

Could be, but we have to win the competition which is not an easy feat at all.

I somehow think attaining one of the top four spots in the league is an easier task of qualifying for Europe especially as we're talking about missing out on qualifying for the Europa League, at least then you'll have no distractions apart from domestic cups.

 

[FinnYid]

Already feel sorry for any club and their fans taking him on board.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Already feel sorry for any club and their fans taking him on board.

Zenit are apparently

At least he will have Hulk to save his anus every match

 

[FinnYid]

AVB had a system, had a purpose...if he was given the players he really wanted, i really believe we would be further up the table.

Given Messi and C.Ronaldo he might have gotten us 5th. Seriously "he had a system, he had purpose", even saying that aloud should be punished by making you watch our autumn games again. But guess it would be seen as torture and would be against international agreements.

Shit and dysfunctional system and hanging your neck around it is worse than having no manager and no system at all.

 

[FinnYid]

How cute, the fans who were so desperate for Tim to validate their urge to get AVB sacked at such stupid time of the season now are playing the "just because Tim is crap doesn't mean AVB wasn't crap as well" card.

It's actually AVB was crapper card and it's as valid as they come - as can be seen by the results at PL. And if results aren't enough, go and watch that shite again.

 

[CrazyHeart]

Even the Daily Mail acknowledge that Sherwood isn't even in the same class as AVB, and they hate AVB's guts...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...n-scored-fewer-goals-leakier-defence-AVB.html

Yes, it's the Daily Mail, but they're dead accurate with the stats on this one.

 

[FinnYid]

Even the Daily Mail acknowledge that Sherwood isn't even in the same class as AVB, and they hate AVB's guts...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...n-scored-fewer-goals-leakier-defence-AVB.html

Yes, it's the Daily Mail, but they're dead accurate with the stats on this one.

Dead accurate bullshit stats - you've every right to compare Tbilisi, Hull reserves, Tromsö, Sheriff and Anzhi to whatever you like. But if you want bit like for like comparisons, then look at the PL with:

AVB 16 games, on average 0,9375 goals (20% out of easy penalties), conceded 1,3125 on average, points per game 1,69, winning percentage 50%, losing percentage 31,25%.

Sherwood: 13 games, 1,69 goals on average, 1,23 conceded on average, points per game 2, winning percentage 61,5% and losing percentage 23%.

So find all the comfort in the world of AVBs all conquering efforts against relegated Norwegian sides or Georgian sides. Just don't expect the rest of us to fall into that trap.

 

[scat1620]

CrazyHeart's boner for AVB is starting to rival The Shard.

 

[Buggsy61]

Righto

Lol so is that it then?. Lets get this right - so Levy is a chairman employed by a sports and media group but he pays no attention to the media - marvellous!. How do you know that - did you ring him up and ask him.

 

[walton]

I am one of those who was very excited by AVB at the start. I became disenchanted with him, and was ultimately ambivalent toward his sacking, although I harboured a deep suspicion that maybe, just maybe, there was a grand project within him which he had not had time to bring together either at the Chavs or with us.

The main thing i did not like about his sacking was the mid season nature of it. I would have much preferred, and was vocal at the time about it, that he be given the season at least and things be sorted out in the summer break one way or the other.

The way things have gone now, i see no improvement whatsoever. We should have stuck with AVB through the season. It couldn't really have gone worse than it's going right now anyway.

Definitely.

One of the most galling aspects of the AVB fallout is how we can no longer lay claim to be trying to 'do things right'. We have gone down the Chelsea route (literally in the AVB case), and have nothing to show for it.

 

[ralvy]

It's actually AVB was crapper card and it's as valid as they come - as can be seen by the results at PL. And if results aren't enough, go and watch that shite again.

Seriously mate, how do you expect me or anyone else to take you seriously when you keep spouting this kind of nonsense?

Yes, under AVB the football was dry and boring, but we at least were a proper team. Most people could actually see we were a work in progress. Under Sherwood we have become nothing but a gigantic fucking mess! No one can say we work as a team anymore, we're going nowhere and we have become the laughing stock of the league. Sherwood (or should I say, Levy and the board?) has effectively killed our season two months too soon.

So if you really are of the opinion that AVB was way worse than Sherwood, then I have nothing to do but pray for your soul, as you're already a lost cause.

 

[FinnYid]

Seriously mate, how do you expect me or anyone else to take you seriously when you keep spouting this kind of nonsense?

Yes, under AVB the football was dry and boring, but we at least were a proper team. Most people could actually see we were a work in progress.

Oh yeah, work in progress - without any progress at all.

Under Sherwood we have become nothing but a gigantic fucking mess!

And yet results in PL are vastly better than with AVB - how do you explain that? Well natural explanation is that AVB had vast negative influence on team and his "proper team" was worse than some novice fielding a gigantic fucking mess. Reason enough to sack him.

No one can say we work as a team anymore, we're going nowhere and we have become the laughing stock of the league.

We were laughing stock under AVB. Scoring 0,75 goals per game on open game, getting our asses spanked every now and then just like now and getting worse results than now.

Sherwood (or should I say, Levy and the board?) has effectively killed our season two months too soon.

Really, the clueless one had killed it effectively by mid-december.

So if you really are of the opinion that AVB was way worse than Sherwood, then I have nothing to do but pray for your soul, as you're already a lost cause.

Then how the fuck are his stats in PL so much worse? Has Tim been helped by some divine intervention? No, AVB was just plain tripe.

 

[RJ1882]

So you'd rather have no European football and still do fuck all in the league, league cup and FA cup?
The Europa League could be our only chance of Champions League qualification

Not this season it ain't. I think we'd have more chance of 4th next season than winning Europa if we have the right man in charge. A year out would be good for us, IMHO.

 

[ralvy]

Oh yeah, work in progress - without any progress at all.

Or more like sacked while progress was finally happening?

Just go watch again the games against Sunderland and Anzhi. We were finally beginning to look like a team who could move the ball around while creating plenty of score chances (while retaining our defensive solidity). Then came Liverpool and we got back to our old habits which caused everything to go wrong in that match, but it was understandable as Liverpool were the most in form team of the league back then.

But its undeniable from watching the games before that one that we were finally seeing some progress in our attacking front.

And yet results in PL are vastly better than with AVB - how do you explain that? Well natural explanation is that AVB had vast negative influence on team and his "proper team" was worse than some novice fielding a gigantic fucking mess. Reason enough to sack him.

I don't think the word vastly means what you think it does.

We were laughing stock under AVB. Scoring 0,75 goals per game on open game, getting our asses spanked every now and then just like now and getting worse results than now.

No, we weren't. We were keeping pace with the top four, and we were a difficult team to break down (though not impossible, as Liverpool and City proved).

Really, the clueless one had killed it effectively by mid-december.

You're an idiot if you think that. We were only 4 points away from top four and still alive in all competitions.

Then how the fuck are his stats in PL so much worse? Has Tim been helped by some divine intervention? No, AVB was just plain tripe.

Again, I don't think much worse means what you think it does.


FinnYid, this last post of yours is borderline trollish and I don't think I can take you seriously anymore. You're being beyond delusional and I actually feel sorry for you.

 

[nightgoat]

league closer after 16 games than it is after 29 shocker.

Doesn't make your original statement any less incorrect.

 

[nightgoat]

FinnYid, this last post of yours is borderline trollish and I don't think I can take you seriously anymore. You're being beyond delusional and I actually feel sorry for you.

I just skip past any of his posts in any AVB-related thread. It's like asking a scouser for a balanced opinion on Margaret Thatcher.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Doesn't make your original statement any less incorrect.

you do know that whoever the spurs manager is, he doesn't have any control over how the other teams do, right?