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DiscoD1882

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This is why other supporters call us all kinds of names and there is no defense.

Sixth place and the quarter finals of the Champions League. During the run in the latter, we were the toast of Europe.

Has there been some lows? Yes. It hasn't always been brilliant, but for a long while it was superb. It can't have been amazing for long stretches and then awful as an aggregate.

The last month or so has been awful, but the season has been great. And we can look back on our form against the bottom half and wonder "what if". But if this is awful, then you will never be happy. Never. We'll win the league one day and you'll be some ridiculous Real Madrid supporter saying we should have scored 3 in every game and call for the head of the manager.


To be fair, some of you aren't here for the game. You're here to moan. That's the only thing that football gives you. I feel sorry for you. Because you missed out on a fun season.
Beautiful post DP:clap: I have enjoyed the highs and the lows. because that is what football is about. We could win the league next year or we could be relegated. Who knows?? that is why some of us love football. I wouldnt be a fan if i wasnt disappointed. but I am so glad i am not one of you glum moaning mother Fuckers, who if they were given gold would toss it back and ask for Platimum. that it isnt ambition. Dont kid yourself that it is. If you want instant success you really chose the wrong team because with the exception of a couple of moments in our history that stand out we havent really had that much. I have been on this site for years but this year has bought a real scuzzy element to the site. Probably the success thing? I rarely post anymore because it is pointless arguing with the glory hounds who only want success. Sack the manager sell the players get better ones. you are the problem. Expect better by all means but dont moan if we dont always get it. im sure Leeds or Newcastle would love to be back where we are now. making the desicions our board made rather than the ones theirs did.
 

Batspur

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Wait, so you are saying that in 30 years of watching Spurs a bad season or a relegation fight is not relevant to the question of what makes a season awful?

Are you from another dimensional plain or something?




I dont think I said that all.

I said this season has been awful. You really do only read what you want to read dont you.

You are a Stockport level WUM. Sorry to any Stockport fans.
 

gregga

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I think overall the domestic season as been highly disappointing (note, not 'awful' - look at Villa for an example of how badly things can go wrong) for several reasons:

- Our expectations were high, and legitimately so - the sqaud was stronger for the emergence of Bale and the signing of VdV and the squad was generally injury free.

- This season was a real turning point in terms of whether we could cement top 4 at the expense of City (in light of the forthcoming FFP rules) and Liverpool.

- We have only turned in a handful of truly good PL performances over 90 minuntes - City and Blackburn at home and Villa away. That is literally it (and one of those was 0-0 draw ffs).

No matter how much Harry says it, a very good run in the CL does not on its own make a great season.
 

Spurs_Bear

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This is the best squad any manager has had at his disposal for nearly 20 years . Those teams consisted on players like Dozzell , Sinton , Doherty etc . This is a class squad that should be doing better .

Cos we played the div one donkeys years ago , we should just be happy to be in the PL .

Shit season , infact apart from the CL run , one of the worst for many a year .

Oh do stop it you dirtbag for goodness sake.
 

Jay The Yid

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Thank god others agree with me.
I though I was on my own for a minute.

When we get beat tonight and Livepool absolutley hammer us at the weekend, I wonder how many more of you will be agreeing with me?!
 

nightgoat

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I seem to remember at the start of the season there was a poll of fans expectations, and an awful lot of you 'expected' a top five finish and to make it out of the group stages of the Champions League...

Well, we did better than just making it out of the group stage of the Champions League and we can still finish in the top five of the league...
 

Azrael

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I dont think I said that all.

I said this season has been awful. You really do only read what you want to read dont you.

You are a Stockport level WUM. Sorry to any Stockport fans.
So, of thirty seasons of supporting Spurs, where would you rank this season?
 

Azrael

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When we get beat tonight and Livepool absolutley hammer us at the weekend, I wonder how many more of you will be agreeing with me?!
Mate fuck off with that shit, ok?

A match is not decided until it's been played. We dropped some bad points at the end of last season and then went on to beat the scum, Chavski and City. I'm not saying we are in for a repeat, but to get depressed about a result before it has even happened is criminal IMO. The likes of you said we'd lose to Inter & Milan as well.
 

mike_l

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So, of thirty seasons of supporting Spurs, where would you rank this season?

Once again I would like to pose the question of how that is in any way relevant to an assessment of this season as good, bad or awful?

The OP never states this is the worst season he has seen, so dredging up bad memories from the Francis, Gross, Graham, Hoddle regimes is a bit of a moot point, as is comparing us to Plymouth or any other lower league teams struggling to survive as has also been mentioned in this thread.
 

Azrael

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Once again I would like to pose the question of how that is in any way relevant to an assessment of this season as good, bad or awful?
Context my dear boy, context. For Liverpool or Chelsea it's an awful season because normally they are top four mainstays. We have managed only 4 top six finishes since the PL began (and that's including this season).

Can you not see the difference?
 

Azrael

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The OP never states this is the worst season he has seen, so dredging up bad memories from the Francis, Gross, Graham, Hoddle regimes is a bit of a moot point, as is comparing us to Plymouth or any other lower league teams struggling to survive as has also been mentioned in this thread.
But that comment wasn't in response to the OP, it was in response to batspur who says he has been a fan for over 30 years.
 

mike_l

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But that comment wasn't in response to the OP, it was in response to batspur who says he has been a fan for over 30 years.

Ok I lost track of who exactly was talking to who and responded to the conversation in general.

You say it's all about context, well I disagree on that front as I'm sure you must have picked up on already. I don't see why our previous finishes should affect our current performance, in fact it's exactly that kind of mentality which will prevent us from ever truely challenging at the very top if it is shared by the players and management.

Hypothetically speaking, Man Utd could go into administration during the summer and sell all of their decent players, we could go out and sign the best keeper and best striker in the world, as well as keeping hold of our best players. Next season then, a decimated United squad do the double over us, would that not be an awful set of results, based on the context of United always having a good record against us?

I should also mention that in this hypothetical season Man Utd finish bottom of the league with a record for lowest points in a season and only 2 wins, those being against us.
 

T-51

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No Mike L . cos we have been average for the last 20 years , we must accept second rate shit that red serves up .
 

Azrael

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Ok I lost track of who exactly was talking to who and responded to the conversation in general.

You say it's all about context, well I disagree on that front as I'm sure you must have picked up on already. I don't see why our previous finishes should affect our current performance, in fact it's exactly that kind of mentality which will prevent us from ever truely challenging at the very top if it is shared by the players and management.

Hypothetically speaking, Man Utd could go into administration during the summer and sell all of their decent players, we could go out and sign the best keeper and best striker in the world, as well as keeping hold of our best players. Next season then, a decimated United squad do the double over us, would that not be an awful set of results, based on the context of United always having a good record against us?

I should also mention that in this hypothetical season Man Utd finish bottom of the league with a record for lowest points in a season and only 2 wins, those being against us.
Do you think we have a squad as good as the other top four sides, or the contenders (such as Pool)?

Our strikers are the poorest out of the challengers. We fucked up badly by not getting someone in. Say what you want about Suarez, when not scoring he has been creating for Pool.

Our defenders are shakey (Disco Benny aside) and make mistakes. Dawson is good, but is error prone. King and Woodgate, the two best defenders in the country, never play. They make Gomes's job twice as hard.

All our best players sit in midfield.

So, do you think a top class midfielder is enough for us to all harbour an expectation that we have top class finishes because our squad is supposedly miles better than before?

In contrast, during the season mentioned already we have players like Ginola, Anderton, Ferdinand, Klinsmann and Carr (who back then was half decent). Are these players who couldn't get anywhere near our side today?
 

Azrael

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No Mike L . cos we have been average for the last 20 years , we must accept second rate shit that red serves up .
Sorry, but last 8 of the Champions League and a top 6 finish is "second rate shit"?

The responses in this thread are incredulous.
 

Batspur

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But that comment wasn't in response to the OP, it was in response to batspur who says he has been a fan for over 30 years.


But where is that in context to my post? I am not going to put in order my ratings of Spurs' success for the last 30 years, life is too short for 1 and I'm not JH for 2.

Tell you what, you put yours in order and I will mark it for you.

Dealing with the present season and with the supposed riches at reds disposal plus the expectations that should be built from last year. Note LAST year, not 23 years ago. It is natural to have hoped for an improvement. We have gone backwards. Apart from maybe 4 games it has been sterile stuff. Yes, beating the scum was amazing, yes tonking the cl champions was great, but what has it delivered? This has been one of the most average leagues in my memory and I was kind of hoping for a tilt at the league title. Instead we are on relegation form. What happens if this carries on next season a la Ramos? Will you still say it was better than 1997 and be thankful?

I really do not get your argument. If in fact you have one.
 

Azrael

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But where is that in context to my post? I am not going to put in order my ratings of Spurs' success for the last 30 years,.
Well, how convenient it is that when someone asks you to support your claims with a ranking your conwardly back on on the basis that " life is too short".

It's funny how life wasn't too short for your reply, or, for that matter, all of your ranting posts in this thread.
 

T-51

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Sorry, but last 8 of the Champions League and a top 6 finish is "second rate shit"?

The responses in this thread are incredulous.

look how good our squad is . didnt red rate it as the best ?
Been served up tripe , considering how good that squad is . fucking tripe .
Ive been to every fucking home game this year and the standard of football dished up in the PL has been pony
 

DiscoD1882

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But where is that in context to my post? I am not going to put in order my ratings of Spurs' success for the last 30 years, life is too short for 1 and I'm not JH for 2.

Tell you what, you put yours in order and I will mark it for you.

Dealing with the present season and with the supposed riches at reds disposal plus the expectations that should be built from last year. Note LAST year, not 23 years ago. It is natural to have hoped for an improvement. We have gone backwards. Apart from maybe 4 games it has been sterile stuff. Yes, beating the scum was amazing, yes tonking the cl champions was great, but what has it delivered? This has been one of the most average leagues in my memory and I was kind of hoping for a tilt at the league title. Instead we are on relegation form. What happens if this carries on next season a la Ramos? Will you still say it was better than 1997 and be thankful?

I really do not get your argument. If in fact you have one.
There in lies your problem. Expectation.
 
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