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Rupstoh

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It's pronounced 'ordair es fack-ai-ray'.

My latin teacher (24 years ago) told me that the actual meaning of 'Audere est facere' is 'Dare is doing' which is roughly the same I suppose.

If you look at the words that English and other languages have adopted, they are similar to a degree:

Audere = audacious (extremely bold or daring, fearless)

Est = French for 'is'

Facere = facer (a person or thing that doe something and faces towards) or 'to have face' (to stand up and show boldness in performance).

Latin is the basis of most languages. That's why, if you learn Latin, not only are you a clever solicitor, you can pretty much decifer most languages. :beer:
 

KentuckyYid

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See I remember being told by an old scholar who spoke Latin that Tottenham's motto meant 'Do well, fear not'.
 

Krafty

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Audere est Facere for me - nothing like an old school motto to show we actually have history, unlike a lot of clubs these days who would rather hide it behind a load of foreign money.
 

Mr-T

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It was audere est facere for 122 years or thereabouts - then we change it to a cheap comedy translation throwing away all that tradition for the sake of a few quid.

The latin mottos seem to be disappearing rapidly, the scum got rid of their 'victoria concordia crescit' (no idea what it means) and I dunno if everton still have 'nil satis nil optimum'.

We should go back to latin and put the english translation down to a small blip in the clubs history - a bit like when we wore red shirts or when man in a raincoat was manager.
 

cheeseman

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It's pronounced 'ordair es fack-ai-ray'.

My latin teacher (24 years ago) told me that the actual meaning of 'Audere est facere' is 'Dare is doing' which is roughly the same I suppose.

If you look at the words that English and other languages have adopted, they are similar to a degree:

Audere = audacious (extremely bold or daring, fearless)

Est = French for 'is'

Facere = facer (a person or thing that doe something and faces towards) or 'to have face' (to stand up and show boldness in performance).

Latin is the basis of most languages. That's why, if you learn Latin, not only are you a clever solicitor, you can pretty much decifer most languages. :beer:

...but you have to pronounce the "t" in "est". It's not silent.

Plus, on the site I linked to above, it says "au is pronounced as the ow in the English 'how'".

So I reckon your teacher was incompetent, or you've forgotten over the years. You've been playing Chinese whispers with yourself or something. :grin:
 

si_yidarmy

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omg guys, get with the times, you all sound like old people. To Dare is to do sounds more appealing, more meaning, slightly on the mentality side. Something that can be fed into the minds of spurs players.

It should be upon the tunnel exit onto the pitch and touched by every player who passes it. To Dare Is To Do LETS GO BOYS
 

cheeseman

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omg guys, get with the times, you all sound like old people. To Dare is to do sounds more appealing, more meaning, slightly on the mentality side. Something that can be fed into the minds of spurs players.

It should be upon the tunnel exit onto the pitch and touched by every player who passes it. To Dare Is To Do LETS GO BOYS

1. Yeah, let's copy off Liverpool (I'm being sarcastic).

2. We are old people.
 

Rupstoh

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...but you have to pronounce the "t" in "est". It's not silent.

Plus, on the site I linked to above, it says "au is pronounced as the ow in the English 'how'".

So I reckon your teacher was incompetent, or you've forgotten over the years. You've been playing Chinese whispers with yourself or something. :grin:

Oh, but it is pronounced as 'es' and has been misused for many a year before. The letter 's' derived from the romanic calendar and the alphabet in english was born, hence the latter translation of 'est' which the french now use.

Come to my lovely little practice and we can discuss it over a coffee and a lovely liitle credit card machine. :grin:
 

Defsta

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omg guys, get with the times, you all sound like old people. To Dare is to do sounds more appealing, more meaning, slightly on the mentality side. Something that can be fed into the minds of spurs players.

It should be upon the tunnel exit onto the pitch and touched by every player who passes it. To Dare Is To Do LETS GO BOYS



For fuck sake Eek
 

Mr-T

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Jan 24, 2006
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omg guys, get with the times, you all sound like old people. To Dare is to do sounds more appealing, more meaning, slightly on the mentality side. Something that can be fed into the minds of spurs players.

It should be upon the tunnel exit onto the pitch and touched by every player who passes it. To Dare Is To Do LETS GO BOYS
Nah, I reckon given his native tongue, Juande's Latin would sound far more impressive than his English.
 

Rupstoh

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si_yidarmy

go back and look at the heritage of the club....

And have some negative rep for even daring to do this thread.
 

juande.is.a.yido

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omg guys, get with the times, you all sound like old people. To Dare is to do sounds more appealing, more meaning, slightly on the mentality side. Something that can be fed into the minds of spurs players.

It should be upon the tunnel exit onto the pitch and touched by every player who passes it. To Dare Is To Do LETS GO BOYS

i went through the tunnel on the midnight kit lauch and as the players come out of the home dressing room, whats on the wall, 4 foot navy blue letters reading: TO DARE IS TO DO.
 

juande.is.a.yido

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this is more like it ......

dont know how to get it big sorry...
 

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