Bale is a winger, no he is a full back etc. blah blah blah

[Kendall]

SP, you're becoming DC Boy without the

 

[StartingPrice]

You havent understood my Post/

'It's a fact that Bale is a full back (because his primary classification is full back) is a different argument to 'Bale's primary classification is full back'.

I dont think people have been arguing against the second statement. Nobody has said that Bale's primary classification is as a Winger, so I'm not sure where your claim to be educating people on fact vs opinion comes from.

The first statement (which was the original position) can be argued against. One can argue that Bale is a winger notwithstanding the fact that his primary classification is full back. You would need to be quite linear in your thinking not to see that. Again, the name on my birth certificate is Peter; everybody calls me Paul. What's my name?

On several threads over several weeks.
It is the only thing I am interested in.
I wasn't looking to get into an argument about some abstract philosophical point...that appears to be your thing:-|

 

[Coyboy]

You have made your point but what does it matter if people think otherwise and why have you taken so much time to just say the same thing.

Surely writing so much about such a non issue is a waste of your time.

 

[StartingPrice]

You have made your point but what does it matter if people think otherwise and why have you taken so much time to just say the same thing.

Surely writing so much about such a non issue is a waste of your time.

How many posts did you make, asking me things I had already answered in my original post?

Would you rather I hadn't answered your posts - to me that is ignorant, but...:shrug:

 

[Coyboy]

Ignorant, I have no idea what you are talking about- just wondering why it matters so much and why you bother writing so much

One post in here was so long, it's hilarious. Off to boozer, just don't take it so seriously pal.

 

[Raxscallion]

How many posts did you make, asking me things I had already answered in my original post?

Would you rather I hadn't answered your posts - to me that is ignorant, but...:shrug:

Ignorant?

Do you mean rude? Ignorant doesn't mean rude.

The people who think it does are ignorant.

 

[rebrab]

He's a left sided player :wink:

 

[StartingPrice]

Ignorant?

Do you mean rude? Ignorant doesn't mean rude.

The people who think it does are ignorant.

No, I mean ignorant, as in someone who ignores something. if I didn't read it, I would be ignoring it, that may be rude, it would also be ignorant. Or do you believe forming an opinion about something someone has said, without reading it, is just rude? To me anyone who demonstrates such a proclivity is actually ignorant.

He's a left sided player :wink:

Yes, yes he is...never said he wasn't. Not adding anything new :wink:

 

[tommyt]

:shrug:So, is Modric a centre midfield player or a leftsided player?

 

[rebrab]

:shrug:So, is Modric a centre midfield player or a leftsided player?

he's a midfielder :lol:

 

[StartingPrice]

:shrug:So, is Modric a centre midfield player or a leftsided player?

Think he is both.
Didn't think he could play in the middle...but delighted to be wrong.
Still slightly worried how he would perform against more 'robust' teams, so would categorise him firstly as a left-sided midfielder. But, yeah, a versatile midfielder :grin:

 

[tommyt]

Yeah, that sounds about right SP

 

[chrissivad]

Still don't understand why we need to categories players in to primary position.

 

[Paq]

On several threads over several weeks.
It is the only thing I am interested in.
I wasn't looking to get into an argument about some abstract philosophical point...that appears to be your thing:-|

Fair enough. I'm happy to stand corrected but as I said, I've been following the argument and I've not seen that. Would you mind pointing out a couple of posts where people have argued that Bale's primary classification is as a winger? Not posts arguing that he is winger but posts arguing that that is his primary classification.

I dabble in philosophy, yes. But that isn't 'my thing'. Logic is my thing.

 

[rebrab]

Still don't understand why we need to categories players in to primary position.

:clap: exactly, that is the point that i was trying to convey through sarcasm! not sure anyone got that though :razz:


:beer:

 

[soup]

Still don't understand why we need to categories players in to primary position.

Hmmm. Are you primarily a poster or a Rumour Ranger? Or maybe a SC Supporter? So confusing! :grin: :wink:

 

[StartingPrice]

Still don't understand why we need to categories players in to primary position.

Because some posters were being abusive about anyone who didn't 'understand' that Bale IS a winger. I was demonstrating that if a player has a primary position, even if they have a secondary position, it is more accurate, if you are to give them one descriptor, to use the primary one...therefore, although he can be described as a winger (as that is his secondary position...ATM), that is only a secondary position. If you were pushed, therefore, to give a simple one phrase answer to the question: "What is his position"?, it is more accurate to say 'full-back' than 'winger'. Therefore, anyone who 'doesn't understand that he IS a winger' isn't an idiot...which was actually posted.
Honestly, Chris, this is all in my original post in this thread, you are making me repeat myself.

Fair enough. I'm happy to stand corrected but as I said, I've been following the argument and I've not seen that. Would you mind pointing out a couple of posts where people have argued that Bale's primary classification is as a winger? Not posts arguing that he is winger but posts arguing that that is his primary classification.

I dabble in philosophy, yes. But that isn't 'my thing'. Logic is my thing.

I insisted on the more exact language of primary classification, for the reason give to Chris, above.
Please, try to take this on board...I answered people who said 'Bale IS a winger', 'Anyone who can't see Bale is a winger is an idiot', 'See, Bale IS a winger'. I chose to do that by demonstrating that his primary position is as a full-back. I never anywhere said anyone specifically said "Bale's primary classification is as a winger" - that is a spin you are putting on this, for your own purposes.
Your are still trying to turn a post I made to clarify that I wasn't trying to deny anyone their opinion (as to Bale's best position), into an in depth philosophical argument, where none exists.

REBRAB - sadly, I have answered Chris several times, on this...and have again, above. If you read my first post in the thread, you, too, may not feel the need to ask it.

 

[rebrab]

Because some posters were being abusive about anyone who didn't 'understand' that Bale IS a winger.

Well thats all I needed to hear tbh, it annoys me when people try to force their opinion on me :lol: so if you were countering those people its fine... but I still find it an irrelevant point, each to their own I guess :beer:

 

[StartingPrice]

Well thats all I needed to hear tbh, it annoys me when people try to force their opinion on me :lol: so if you were countering those people its fine... but I still find it an irrelevant point, each to their own I guess :beer:

I said this in my original post.
I also said (as I have done several times) that I am happy with him being classified as a left-sided player; I don't mind people saying 'I would prefer it if Bale were converted into a winger permanently'; or 'in some games BAE/Bale may be the best option'.
I have said all of this in my original post in this thread...the latter one is actually my own.

 

[chrissivad]

Because some posters were being abusive about anyone who didn't 'understand' that Bale IS a winger. I was demonstrating that if a player has a primary position, even if they have a secondary position, it is more accurate, if you are to give them one descriptor, to use the primary one...therefore, although he can be described as a winger (as that is his secondary position...ATM), that is only a secondary position. If you were pushed, therefore, to give a simple one phrase answer to the question: "What is his position"?, it is more accurate to say 'full-back' than 'winger'. Therefore, anyone who 'doesn't understand that he IS a winger' isn't an idiot...which was actually posted.
Honestly, Chris, this is all in my original post in this thread, you are making me repeat myself.

About 2 posters :-|

Im demonstrating that players dont need to have primary position

If i was to be pushed to answer "What is his position?" i would say left sided player

So anyone saying "He is a winger" is correct as is anyone saying "He is a Fullback"