Ballotelli on Parker and Lescott on Kaboul

[jimmybob]

Is see it as delibrate act from Mario.. a few things just don't add up

1. When regaining balance you dont accelerate your foot to the floor, you look to cushion yourself if anything..

2. his momentum is taken him in the opposite direction by doing what he did would only make him further of balance..( If he was that off balance.. I dont think he is that he was before the stamp)

3. he knows parker is there as he has just accidentally stepped on his hand and parker has fallen against the back of his legs..

4. The dive at the end to try and divert attention away from what he has done

 

[RickyVilla]

There is always force when you're off balance. As RSS said earlier, if you put your foot down where you expect the ground to be but find it isn't you generally jab it down harder. Given on the video you can see balotelli jab it harder at the last minute it would suggest that perhaps that's what happened.

Regaining balance is never a natural looking movement, the fact that he had regained his balance after stepping on Parker doesn't mean that he was in control of his movements before. The dive at the end is deliberate and not all that surprising given he probably realised in that moment that he'd trodden on Parker and it didn't look good.

Are you Balotelli's agent or something?

 

[Rocksuperstar]

From my view; All Balotelli knew was that he had just swung his leg backwards intending to carry on turning, but this is where his heel first hits parker. He then changes direction as he goes off balance and his first reaction is to simply plant his foot down. He doesn't look at Parker, he doesn't play act after he tumbles either, he simply rolled over and got back up.

Remember, intentional or not, his foot didn't contact the ground, meaning he would still have been off balance as i would imagine Parkes noggin is not solid footing. To expect him to not fall when trying to take your weight off of that foot for a third time and still stay on your feet would've been nothing short of olympic.

Honestly don't think he intended any harm to Parker, it was simply an unlucky tangle.

 

[rich75]

The problem here is that momentum would have taken his right leg forward not backwards.

It would if his left leg was planted, but it wasn't. Look, I'm not saying he didn't mean to do it, just that from the footage there is an element of doubt about it.

 

[rich75]

Is see it as delibrate act from Mario.. a few things just don't add up

1. When regaining balance you dont accelerate your foot to the floor, you look to cushion yourself if anything..

That's simply not true, if you put your foot down where you think it's solid only to find it's not you tend to jab it down harder

2. his momentum is taken him in the opposite direction by doing what he did would only make him further of balance..( If he was that off balance.. I dont think he is that he was before the stamp)

If his left leg was planted I'd agree as his momentum would pivot him on that leg, but it wasn't , he'd hit Parker with his calf/shin and trodden on his hand, then jumped. Both legs are off the ground so his momentum is no longer as defined in terms of direction.

3. he knows parker is there as he has just accidentally stepped on his hand and parker has fallen against the back of his legs..

Yes he does, whether he can do anything about it in a split second whilst jumping in the air is another matter

4. The dive at the end to try and divert attention away from what he has done

Agree, though I don't think that makes what he did deliberate.

 

[AngerManagement]

I actually like Balotteli

I think he is a genius and an enigma in the Eric Cantona mould

There is no real argument to suggest what he did did not warrant a red card though, it was clear and obvious for all to see.

Even if we assume he was off balance and falling over, there is no explaination for his stamping motion back where he knew the player was (following the contact made with his lead foot) it was also a very unnatural motion and against the way his momentium and gravity would have taken him had his actions being the result of lack of balance.

It was a stamp, it was a red card nothing more and nothing less.

A moment of madness by Mario B and one in which he should clearly have been sent off for, Howard Webb got it wrong simple as that.

I don't want to demonise the player though because he is a wonderful player, a personality and the PL is a richer place for his involvement (the good and the bads)

It just so happens that yesterday was bad and we were on the receiving end of it.

I am far more annoyed with Webb for being too weak to punish him than I am for the actual action, because although it was nasty it wasn't an attempt to do serious damage as such, more a foolish at petulant moment of madness....but none the less one that was a clear Red card offence.

 

[jimmybob]

There is always force when you're off balance. As RSS said earlier, if you put your foot down where you expect the ground to be but find it isn't you generally jab it down harder. Given on the video you can see balotelli jab it harder at the last minute it would suggest that perhaps that's what happened.

Why did ballotelli expect gorund to be there. Did he suddenly think the ground had suddenly raised 12 inches on that section and was shocked when he did not feel the turf..

I agree when walking upstairs in the dark you can do this but not on an immaculate football pitch

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

There's a blog on the bbc about ballotelli's stamp, the messages after are quite an embarrassment, plenty of city on there saying there's no way it was intentional. Very sad IMO, when zokora dived against Pompey for example, I don't remember seeing anyone defend him, he was criticized by spurs fans. If your player does something wrong just admit it, stop making up bullshit excuses and embarrassing yourselves!!!

 

[mil1lion]

I've fallen over plenty of times and can honestly say i've never used a stamping action to try and stay upright. I might have used my face to catch my a fall a few times though.

He didn't need to look down at Parker to know he was there. It was another moment of red mist that he has been known for. He has that aggressive streak in him and intentially kicked out at Parker.

Lescott surprised me because I didn't think he was that way icnlined, but it was a definite intentional forerarm to Kaboul. Not a million miles from the Thatcher forearm to Mendes. Just without the running momentum behind it.

City tried to bully us in the 2nd half and I wouldn't be surprised if it was encouraged by Mancini at half time.

 

[mil1lion]

There's a blog on the bbc about ballotelli's stamp, the messages after are quite an embarrassment, plenty of city on there saying there's no way it was intentional. Very sad IMO, when zokora dived against Pompey for example, I don't remember seeing anyone defend him, he was criticized by spurs fans. If your player does something wrong just admit it, stop making up bullshit excuses and embarrassing yourselves!!!

I remember that as well. The same happened when Huddlestone dived once and VDV even did early on in his Spurs career. It only took that one moment for them to realise what this club is about.

No matter if City win the League or not at least we're by far the classier team out of the 2.

 

[guiltyparty]

Balotelli has been charged

 

[nailsy]

Balotelli has been charged

Good.

 

[striebs]

There's a blog on the bbc about ballotelli's stamp, the messages after are quite an embarrassment, plenty of city on there saying there's no way it was intentional.

I've noticed Man City fans metamorphosing into everything they used to hate about Man Utd fans .

Makes me worry that we might turn into gooners !

....Lescott surprised me because I didn't think he was that way icnlined, but it was a definite intentional forerarm to Kaboul. Not a million miles from the Thatcher forearm to Mendes.

No , two million at least .

Lescott was just being very competitive . Risking a card but not trying to hurt someone .

Thatchers was outright assault and could have ended in a tragedy .

 

[sim0n]

it's funny how quiet Mancini has become,... even dodged the post match interview when they won. he's spent a lot of time and energy defending balotelli, but it looks like he's bailed out and laying low :grin:

 

[nidge]

Interesting that Ballotelli being from Italy gets charged but Lescott the Englishman doesn't. :think:

 

[gilzeantheking]

Interesting that Ballotelli being from Italy gets charged but Lescott the Englishman doesn't. :think:

I was thinking about this last night, there to seem to be a suspiciously high number of recent cases eg Rooney's elbow McCarthy last year, fat Frank's horrific tackle in the Wolves game this year and Glenn Johnson's two footer in the Man City game a few weeks ago, where seasoned England internationals appear to be getting away with it. Yet the foreign players seem to get done.

I'm not condoning Balotelli in any shape or form but I cannot understand why Lescott wasn't charged. Maybe if the FA said why they thought Lescott's challenge was not violent conduct we would all understand the difference.

 

[Reado]

With Fat Frank's tackle, the ref saw it and gave him a yellow card so he couldn't be punished further, but I know what you mean regards the Rooney elbow and Johnson's tackle.

 

[nidge]

With Fat Frank's tackle, the ref saw it and gave him a yellow card so he couldn't be punished further, but I know what you mean regards the Rooney elbow and Johnson's tackle.

The point is The FA hide behind a lie that FIFA don't allow them to change a decision made by a ref on the field of play.

Having looked myself I haven't been able to find any directive from FIFA telling football associations that they are not allowed to change a decision that a ref got wrong.

If there is a directive maybe someone else could find it.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

But thats the gripe, Nidge - the FA can investigate any incident they want to and have over-ruled referees in the past (They charged Ben Thatcher when he Tekkened the shit out of Mendes, despite the ref booking him), but they jump behind this rule every single time, unless there is an obvious public outcry at the time of the event.

Just another example of the inconsistency that drives us mental.

 

[mil1lion]

Lescott was just being very competitive . Risking a card but not trying to hurt someone .

Thatchers was outright assault and could have ended in a tragedy .

Bollocks was he just being competitive. He intentially threw his forearm into Kabouls face. There was no reason to throw the arm out like that other than to hurt the opponent.