Bentley

[KeaneIsKeane]

Bentley's attitude has been shit. Him celebrating a goal and assist enthusiastically isn't going to make up for all the garbage he's done on and off the pitch. Could he really have some serious change of heart and a different attitude, sure? But he's going to have to do more to convince me and most of the fans of that.

 

[Chinaspur]

if we've got a decent war chest then we should keep him - we won't get a better backup right winger. If we need the money to fund another purchase then sell him - simples.

 

[Dr Know]

if we've got a decent war chest then we should keep him - we won't get a better backup right winger. If we need the money to fund another purchase then sell him - simples.

I think Dos Santos is already a better back up player

 

[wooderz]

I don't think he did great freekick aside, he made nine passes and only four of those got to their intended target.

Were you really counting them?? LOL, I told you you were being too harsh :up:

 

[StartingPrice]

Bentley's attitude has been shit. Him celebrating a goal and assist enthusiastically isn't going to make up for all the garbage he's done on and off the pitch. Could he really have some serious change of heart and a different attitude, sure? But he's going to have to do more to convince me and most of the fans of that.

Bentley's attitude has been shit - that is the whole point; he has admitted it was shit (as I said earlier in the thread I think, quite frankly, he was a bit of a cock). But now this is 'post-admission of having had a bad attitude time' (get it:shrug. That IS ht ewhole point of this thread.
I, myself, specifically compared the way he celebrated his goal, and other peoples in the CC, with his behaviour on Sunday - and said it was better! Are you saying it wasn't:shrug:

Is he going to have to do more to convince you and most of the fans that he has had a serious change of heart - implying that anyone who says his behaviour on Sunday was marledly better is a dupe or summit, I suppose - well, yeah, but no-one was saying he is completely rehabilitated, are they:shrug: All anyone said was his behaviour was better on Sunday. If you go back and read my post again, one of the points I specifically made was he seemed genuinely delighted FOR Kranks for that goal and slapped him on the back about ten times. That really is very different to just kinda shrugging he shoulders when HE himself scored in the CC as if to say "I am not first choice in Prem games so I really don't give a toss". It's not the same is it:shrug:

I have been very clear about this, and I don't thik anyone who has concurred that his behaviour was different on Sunday seriously disagrees with me: he behaved like a bit of a cock; AL stepped up to the plate under pressure from DB, DB should do the same; AL should still be first choice on right wing; Bentley could play in centre but he certainly isn't going to displace any of the usual suspects IMMEDIATELY; and no no-one was implying that coming on mid-sound thrashing of a mis-firing Wigan team makes him an immediate World-beater who should be rushed back into the England squad. Some of us just thought his visibly different behaviour was worthy of comment and an improvement. End of:-|

Other than that, I agree with ChinaSpur's comment - if he continues to improve his attitude and apply himself, ANDwe have a decent transfer war chest, I would like to see him stay; if, however, we are seriously strapped for cash, and need money to strengthen elsewhere (like competition for Palacios), I wouldn't actually have a problem with that - I am a realist in these matters.

Just thought he behaved better...is all:-|

 

[41john]

Although the Free kick was great, his passing was poor and even worse he seemed very lazy. It seemed like the perfect opportunity to run around like a nutter and really prove you have something to give and that you want to earn your wages. Several times I saw him standing around or jogging at half pace. If he wants a chance of more game time here or elsewhere he needs to be at least an impact sub. Statistics would make it seem like he had an amazing 10 minute cameo, but watching him he looked like the same player to me.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Yeah at 6-1 or thereabouts it's not a bad time to come on, especially with Edmun looking like he'd had a seizure and the rest of their side just wanting the final whistle to go.

Im sure Harry will be looking to do some business sooner or later with him and you cant blame him

 

[Bill_Oddie]

Sure his chances are limited this season but if we get European footy in any guise (which seems likely) we'll have about 60 games a season to play. Lennon will be lucky to make 40 of those, and asking an unproven youngster to start in 20-25 games - and probably come on in a further 10-15 - which are logically likely to include several big four games, some European and cup fixtures, is a big request.

I think he feels he has a point to prove with us (rather like that bloke who he appears to confuse himself with at times did at Real, AC, England and in the US), so he might just be happy being in the squad for now and work towards seizing his chance when it comes.

 

[SpursMad]

Kinda missing the point, really - the thread isn't about how well he played, it is about the difference in attitude he showed:-|

Jeez, just 'cos a player hasn't quite cut the mustard at the Lane, some folks just can't say anything positive at all:bang:

Actually the title of the thread is 'Bentley'. Thus a more well rounded discussion is implied. I don't like him as a player. Simple as that. Cute emoticons, btw.

 

[SpursMad]

Other than that, I agree with ChinaSpur's comment - if he continues to improve his attitude and apply himself, ANDwe have a decent transfer war chest, I would like to see him stay; if, however, we are seriously strapped for cash, and need money to strengthen elsewhere (like competition for Palacios), I wouldn't actually have a problem with that - I am a realist in these matters.

Just thought he behaved better...is all:-|

We aren't cash strapped at all. That is a fact. Sometimes you have to cut your losses and let a player go for the benefit of the club and the player. We have folks who can play on the right, in the event that Lennon can't play or is rested. One half way decent game where DB showed he "behaved better" doesn't necessarily equate to keeping a player who has been piss poor for a year and a half.

 

[Dibby]

He did very well after coming on, despite looking really disinterested while standing by the sideline waiting to come on.

Cracking free kick too. If only he'd get his head straight.

 

[BorisTM]

He has to play in the middle of the park, he needs plenty of space and options and he knows how to use them very well, having him on the wing is wasteful he is not the Lennon type of a player. IMO he can be an excellent offensive midfielder. But he needs to get his confidence back as well.

He also assisted for the last goal with a nice pass to Krancjar.

 

[Bulletspur]

Well said mate.

I'm getting to the stage now where I just want to keep our entire squad, it's the best I've seen at WHL. Lennon and Bentley on the right, Modric and Kranky on the left. JJ, Hudd, Wilson in the middle. Lovely jubbly.

Well said. I think you have shared most people's sentiments. While I dont mind additions (that will improve) I am happy with our squad and would like all to stay. How realistic this is, is another question as there are only 11 places that can be utilized at any one time in a match.

 

[Bulletspur]

. They are specialists both who are not even that great at what they specialize in.

Wow!!

 

[StartingPrice]

Actually the title of the thread is 'Bentley'. Thus a more well rounded discussion is implied. I don't like him as a player. Simple as that. Cute emoticons, btw.

Yeah, but the title of a thread implies an intro into a more specific area of discussion - inthis case DBs attitude during the Wigan game. I would have thought, therefore, that reading the thread creators comments and those that follow wouold be axiomatic, as opposed to merely seeing the title and posting a comment based on ones general sentiments.

In this instance, Bomber was making a thread suggesting that DB showed by his behaviour on Sunday that maybe he really has begun to recify his attitude problems.

I find it strange that I specify, in both of my posts (ie the one before you posted and in my response to your post), that I have found DB to be a bit of a cock - so, now, that is three occasions. That does not in any way alter from the fact that his behaviour on Sunday that maybe he really has begun to recify his attitude problems.

I believe you will find, however, in reply to the latter of your two 'response' posts, that I never at any stage said: "it is really, really imperative that we keep DB as his performance on Sunday shows he has turned a corner, it was superb". What I, in fact, said was that his behaviour was a marked improvement - I then went on to add that if it really is an indication of a better attitude and he really applies himself he could yet turn out to be an asseet to the club. If 'Arry sells him, however, so be it - 'cos AL stepped up to the plate when faced with the competiton, and DB really should have too, he has been a big leet-down.

I really don't see why you are replying to points that haven't been made...nor do I see why you should make a post based on a generalised sentiment in reply to a very wide interpretation of what a thread may be about, without actually verifying the nature of the thread:-|

 

[SpursMad]

I really don't see why you are replying to points that haven't been made...nor do I see why you should make a post based on a generalised sentiment in reply to a very wide interpretation of what a thread may be about, without actually verifying the nature of the thread:-|

Obviously this feud, of sorts, probably shouldn't continue much beyond seeing as we have both said our points. I didn't reply to any points you didn't make. You pointed out that this thread was specifically mentioned his improvement in attitude. As is often the case with message boards on the interwebz, it took a bit of a tangent where I expressed my dislike of DB as a player despite is seemingly changed attitude. Nor was I the only one.

Essentially, what I am saying is that there was no point in singling me out for my point of view. Capice?

 

[StartingPrice]

Obviously this feud, of sorts, probably shouldn't continue much beyond seeing as we have both said our points. I didn't reply to any points you didn't make. You pointed out that this thread was specifically mentioned his improvement in attitude. As is often the case with message boards on the interwebz, it took a bit of a tangent where I expressed my dislike of DB as a player despite is seemingly changed attitude. Nor was I the only one.

Essentially, what I am saying is that there was no point in singling me out for my point of view. Capice?

No worries - the idea of the 'neutral face' emoticon was that I wasn't angry with you or anything (I can do 'angry' very well when called upon, accompanied by appropriate emoticons:grin. I just kinda think you should make a 'DB is a bit of a cock' sticky thread to abuse the guy, rather than pollute, er, posting normal threads and positive(ish) to DB. As I alluded, I actually think the man is a bit of an arse in the World, but, hey, if he is an asset to the club, I don't really care if he paints zebras pink and practices the Karma Sutra on them omg.

I'm sorry if you thought I was picking you out unfairly - maybe my memory is a bit shaky here - but I kinda work on a sliding scale. If they are several posts varying in length from "DB=cock" to a lengthy discourse on the cockishness of DB I won't reply to all of them, nor will I choose the shortest of posts. I will reply to the lengthy one on the assumption (not always correct) that it is likely to expound more fully the thesis against which I am debating. In this case I think yours was the most lengthy post. Nothing personal. Not a case of infamy:wink:

Anyway, DB is a bit of a cock (subjective statement); his attitude seemed improved (objective statement - I believe); I hope he continues with it and, who knows, proves an asset to the team, in spite of his blatant cockishness (subjective statement):grin: Wouldn't that be fine:shrug:

 

[Matthew Wyatt]

Allegedly a Spurs fan but he just doesn't feel right. I go more on intuition than hard analysis... 'cos I'm lazy. Move on, young man, and prosper.

 

[Hoowl]

He has to play in the middle of the park, he needs plenty of space and options and he knows how to use them very well, having him on the wing is wasteful he is not the Lennon type of a player. IMO he can be an excellent offensive midfielder. But he needs to get his confidence back as well.

He also assisted for the last goal with a nice pass to Krancjar.

His best attribute is his crossing and he needs to be wide to use it. I like it when he's played at RM and keeps it simple, getting the ball and crossing it rather than trying to be clever and beat players. Ramos played him as an AM at the start of last season and i don't think it worked particularly well.

 

[Kendall]

I love the technique in the way he hit that free kick.