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glacierSpurs

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Guy on twitter just summed up our window perfectly, we should be more worried about the teams behind us, Palace, Swansea, than what's ahead of us. If we finish 6th/7th and scrape Europa League it will be a good season for us, with this squad
exactly.. I am not sure if Levy even realised, teams like Watford, Stoke, Leicester etc made wonderful acquisitions way above one would normally thought possible.. there seems to be a sense of self-satisfaction from Levy and/or Poch that as long as we are better than last transfer window, be it just 10%, we are better this season.. but other teams had actually improved probably 50% that could well be better than us already by 5%..

we are improving so slowly in recent transfer windows that we are not keeping up with times IMO,, Stoke interests of those big name players, and some were signed, was the intent that we should have..clubs like them will slowly be breaking their transfer records past 20mil sooner than later.. it will be pathetic if we are still filtering on fees in around mid-10 mil, only occasionally past the 20mil mark..
 

yiddo23

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When the window shut I was dumbfounded as the rest we didn't bring in a cm and striker, but let's look at this in another light

-kept lloris
-defence is sorted
-the players we got rid of in center midfield never contributed to the team anyhow (Benji, paulinho, stambouli)
- we replaced those we never used with dier (seems to be a total footballer that learns quickly), Alli (we all seen him and know he's capable), and still rolling with mason and nabil who will push on from last year IMO. Dembele may be playing higher up but we know he is a solid cm, especially if hes next to someone like dier, and Carroll can fit in cm as well. Ya we are lacking experience in cm, but the hunger is there without a doubt.

-attacking midfield we only lost Lennon who never plays and gained Pritchard, son, n'jie, and Alli, mason, moose, and Carroll are all capable AMs

-striker, Robbie was our only other striker and got rid, but let's be real, although he was an out and out striker he contributed nil. Son, n'jie, chadli, and even lamela (not in PL as lone) can fit in, ya they aren't pure strikers, but the fact is they dont have to do much of anything to bring more to the table than bobby did. And we will be able to play a more versatile 2 up top with our new signings.

No doubt it would have been nice to add berahino, but like I said, whoever fills in for Kane when needed don't have to do much at all to improve on bobby

Yes kane getting injured would hurt, but what team wouldn't hurt with their top striker going down? United have a declining Rooney and a 19 year old new to PL who isnt really an out and out striker, along with James Wilson and fellaini...our striking core is at the very least on par with theirs and they are one of the richest clubs in the world.

Point is, its not the end of the world at all, we have improved the squad overall, let's just wait and see what happens before we lose our shit.
 
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RichieS

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Dec 23, 2004
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If proper ratings were enabled I'd give you a winner. I would like us to bring Berbatov back for the season though.
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
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When the window shut I was dumbfounded as the rest we didn't bring in a cm and striker, but let's look at this in another light

-kept lloris
-defence is sorted
-the players we got rid of in center midfield never contributed to the team anyhow (Benji, paulinho, stambouli)
- we replaced those we never used with dier (seems to be a total footballer that learns quickly), Alli (we all seen him and know he's capable), and still rolling with mason and nabil who will push on from last year IMO. Dembele may be playing higher up but we know he is a solid cm, especially if hes next to someone like dier, and Carroll can fit in cm as well. Ya we are lacking experience in cm, but the hunger is there without a doubt.

-attacking midfield we only lost Lennon who never plays and gained Pritchard, son, n'jie, and Alli, mason, moose, and Carroll are all capable AMs

-striker, Robbie was our only other striker and got rid, but let's be real, although he was an out and out striker he contributed nil. Son, n'jie, chadli, and even lamela (not in PL as lone) can fit in, ya they aren't pure strikers, but the fact is they dont have to do much of anything to bring more to the table than bobby did. And we will be able to play a more versatile 2 up top with our new signings.

No doubt it would have been nice to add berahino, but like I said, whoever fills in for Kane when needed don't have to do much at all to improve on bobby

Yes kane getting injured would hurt, but what team wouldn't hurt with their top striker going down? United have a declining Rooney and a 19 year old who isnt really an out and out striker, along with James Wilson and fellaini...our striking core is at the very least on par with theirs and they are one of the richest clubs in the world.

Point is, its not the end of the world at all, we have improved the squad overall, let's just wait and see what happens before we lose our shit.
It's nice to see a positive post. I have to say that the Berahino saga does baffle me though. I can't see why we pursued him for so long without having a plan B. I can only assume that DL expected West Brom to cave in but the only outcome is a seriously pissed off player. It seems on the face of it strange that JP wasn't given an ultimatum of take it or leave it a few weeks back.
 

fortworthspur

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we will find out how bad it is in the coming months. personally I think the midfield is a bigger problem. at least we have Ade to do the job Bera was supposed to do, for better or worse. A couple of injuries in the midfield and we have nothing but academy players.
 

yiddo23

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we will find out how bad it is in the coming months. personally I think the midfield is a bigger problem. at least we have Ade to do the job Bera was supposed to do, for better or worse. A couple of injuries in the midfield and we have nothing but academy players.
Ya but a couple injuries in any teams midfield will see them struggle, just football. Don't think Ade will see the pitch
 

alexis

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Sep 1, 2012
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my immediate thing is to temper my response to this as i know that you are putting a positive front on this. i will respond but not right now as i feel i may seriously lose the plot but my immediate gut is that this is going to be the worst season for some time.
 

jurgen

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Jul 5, 2008
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my immediate thing is to temper my response to this as i know that you are putting a positive front on this. i will respond but not right now as i feel i may seriously lose the plot but my immediate gut is that this is going to be the worst season for some time.

I think you are right, but remember - and trust that you will repeatedly be told this - it was worse in the 90's!
 

13VanDerBale13

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Jul 12, 2011
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it does kinda make me laugh that we still got son and n'jie, the only thing i worry about is poch not using them as much now in the prem because he wants them as options on bench instead of kane :|
 

matthew.absurdum

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Aug 31, 2012
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Actually I think this window is better than every summer transfer window after the one we buy VDV.
As I don't fancy Berahino that much, I guess if we sign Berbatov to be the cover of Kane then I think this window is very, very good
 

CowInAComa

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Aug 31, 2012
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Berahino seems like a massive overrated ****. Not in the slightest bit bothered about missing out.

Good window on the whole. Should have held back son or Njie announcements until today to appease the needy
 

Lou3000

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It's a bit of this and a bit of that. On one hand, this was the most focused transfer strategy I've ever seen from Spurs. While we bitch about the fact that there was no back up plan, we should all be happy that there was no back up plan.

We have one of the most well rounded defenses in the premier league and are top 10 quality 2 deep at every defensive position. The defense being sorted was a huge positive.

I don't see as much doom and gloom in the midfield as others do. In our double pivot, Dier and Mason have been outstanding thus far. And the pairing could easily be Dier-Bentaleb or Bentaleb-Mason based on form or tactics.

Behind Kane, the attacking options improved. Eriksen wasn't sold, so that's a positive. Son is a huge signing, and paired with Chadli I feel better about our wing options that I did last season. N'Jie and Pritchard have to prove themselves, but they could be great backups.

The biggest issue is Kane. Form, fitness, etc. could all take a dip and we will have to totally change our attack to cater to Son or N'Jie in the CF role. I think without Kane we will almost have to change to a false 9 or a 4-4-2. It might work, but it's a risk.
 

JerryGarcia

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May 18, 2006
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I'm not really bothered about Berahinho, if we really bid 26m for him at the last minute that's crazy money, even with the Young English player tax. There must be a better striker out there for that kind of money, I just hope we can make it through to January without ruining Kane.

Overall this has to be one of our best windows, I never thought we'd sign Son and I can't wait to see what the pace of him and N'Jie can do for our attacking play. I'm happy with Alderweireld and Trippier looks like a bargain, we still have our best players and the youngsters have signed new long term contracts. It's a shame we couldn't shift Ade but if he won't move then it's out of our hands, he'll be gone by this time next year anyway.
 

mrlilywhite

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Sep 1, 2008
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we will find out how bad it is in the coming months. personally I think the midfield is a bigger problem. at least we have Ade to do the job Bera was supposed to do, for better or worse. A couple of injuries in the midfield and we have nothing but academy players.

You believe Ade wants to do a job for us?
 

talkshowhost86

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Oct 2, 2004
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A window that started well but really fizzled out.

Trippier, Toby, N'Jie and Son are all excellent signings and we got decent money for a few players who we need to get rid of.

But we're left with Adebayor and Townsend/Lamela who we needed to leave and most worryingly we are a Harry Kane injury/loss of form away from a striker crisis and are still without a decent defensive midfielder.

The latter in particular means we have big problems in midfield and for that I don't think we can say it's been anything other than a disappointing window.

I don't think any of us know who for sure is to blame but we need to sort it out as I think we are now being drawn into the club's below us rather than chasing the ones above.
 

Spurger King

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Jul 22, 2008
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When the window shut I was dumbfounded as the rest we didn't bring in a cm and striker, but let's look at this in another light

-kept lloris
-defence is sorted
-the players we got rid of in center midfield never contributed to the team anyhow (Benji, paulinho, stambouli)
- we replaced those we never used with dier (seems to be a total footballer that learns quickly), Alli (we all seen him and know he's capable), and still rolling with mason and nabil who will push on from last year IMO. Dembele may be playing higher up but we know he is a solid cm, especially if hes next to someone like dier, and Carroll can fit in cm as well. Ya we are lacking experience in cm, but the hunger is there without a doubt.

-attacking midfield we only lost Lennon who never plays and gained Pritchard, son, n'jie, and Alli, mason, moose, and Carroll are all capable AMs

-striker, Robbie was our only other striker and got rid, but let's be real, although he was an out and out striker he contributed nil. Son, n'jie, chadli, and even lamela (not in PL as lone) can fit in, ya they aren't pure strikers, but the fact is they dont have to do much of anything to bring more to the table than bobby did. And we will be able to play a more versatile 2 up top with our new signings.

No doubt it would have been nice to add berahino, but like I said, whoever fills in for Kane when needed don't have to do much at all to improve on bobby

Yes kane getting injured would hurt, but what team wouldn't hurt with their top striker going down? United have a declining Rooney and a 19 year old new to PL who isnt really an out and out striker, along with James Wilson and fellaini...our striking core is at the very least on par with theirs and they are one of the richest clubs in the world.

Point is, its not the end of the world at all, we have improved the squad overall, let's just wait and see what happens before we lose our shit.

I'll be very surprised if this squad finishes 6th or higher. Other teams have improved. We've strengthened at the back and in attacking midfield, but it's criminal to have to rely on only one recognised striker. Criminal and amateurish.

Central midfield is the one that really bothers me though. Bentaleb and Mason are hit and miss (and got overrun several times last season). Dembele shows up for one in five games. Alli is promising but could sink or swim. And Dier looked good against Everton but that hardly makes him our answer to the DM role. His passing is very poor at times, and his positional sense needs to improve a lot.

Where's the experience? Where's the midfielder at the heart of the team that has the know-how and motivational abilities to drive the team forward when heads drop?

It's not that we haven't done good things in this window, because clearly we have (still can't believe we got Son). But we're paper-thin, unbalanced, and inexperienced. This window will prove to be at fault when the crowd turn on the team and Pochettino either walks or gets the boot. Even if Kane stays fit for the entire season without tiring, that midfield is seriously brittle.

Should have gone all in for Cabaye instead of chasing after pipe-dreams.
 
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