Bostock & Simon Jordan

[Caco]

Not sure if anyone else maybe feels the same but I have to admit to having a certain amount of sympathy with Palace and Simon Jordan, even though he is a complete twat. I don't know much about Bostock except what has been printed in the papers about previous from Chelsea when he was only 14. If he is as good as we are led to believe I don't think that Jordans valuation of the player was that extreme.

I was always critical of the way the gooners went about getting Fabregas and a lot more of their players. I guess this puts us in the same boat!

 

[Spurs_Q8]

yes I feel sorry for them too, this player could deserve £2m with £1.5m in the future .. not £5m as he stated because Ramsey was under contract with Cardiff, can't see Dos Santos for £4.7m and Bostock for £5m ..

 

[juande.is.a.yido]

not really.

as i understand (and am probs wrong) we tried to be civil with palace over it and offer them a fee but they wouldnt have it so we went straight to the player which is perfectly legal. whereas l'arse and other teams have previously gone straight to the player showing no respect to the players club that made him.

again i say i probs am wrong.

 

[ShadyAftermath2k]

We did nothing wrong really. He was out of contract, we offered him one. Fee got decided by Tribunal, we did nothing wrong. We just got lucky, i think.

 

[juande.is.a.yido]

even if we did do anything wrong i wouldnt care as palace supporters are scum in general and Simon Jordans a prick.

 

[spurslenny]

the thing here is that spurs have done nothing wrong, palace and jordan have done nothing wrong, but the tribunal panel have got the WHOLE valuation of the player wrong. Imo.
if the kid is as good as everyone is claiming, then why don't the add-ons amount to more than half a million?
we'd be gutted if it had happened to us, with say, Ledley when he was 16 to Man u, for example.
If Bostock turns out to be the next Paul Scholes in 3/4 years, the tribunal's decision will look 10x as bad as it looks now

 

[Caco]

From what I read Palace were asking for £2m up front, £500k after signing professional contract and another £2m after making 40 first team appearances. Probably not that bad a deal considering Palace turned down £900k from Chelsea when he was 14.

 

[hodspurs]

we did nothing wrong but i totally understand jordan.alot of teams outside the prem get by on selling young players to bigger clubs.if a club has had a kid since he was 8-9 then they should be well payed for him.maybe not the 1st payment but over a number of years.so maybe we pay £700000 up frount for bostock, but if he plays a number of games and then for england we should be looking at 3-4 million not the 1.25m we are going to pay.

 

[jimmy-jojo]

we did nothing wrong but i totally understand jordan.alot of teams outside the prem get by on selling young players to bigger clubs.if a club has had a kid since he was 8-9 then they should be well payed for him.maybe not the 1st payment but over a number of years.so maybe we pay £700000 up frount for bostock, but if he plays a number of games and then for england we should be looking at 3-4 million not the 1.25m we are going to pay.

Can't agree. Given Bostock's age if he goes on to play for England we will have been equally responsible for his development as Palace.

Personally, I think Palace got a good amount for Bostock...how much did we pay for Lennon and Huddlestone?

Jordan reckons a 16 yr old who STILL needs a lot of developing is worth more than those two put togther!

 

[Tickers]

Jordan's a self-publicist and an utter ****.

He knew the risks when he took it to tribunal - which is purely designed to ascertain a player's current value.

As such, they've actually got a reasonable price for someone who's played a handful of games.

Jordan is many things, but I can't imagine - after eight years in football - he was stupid enough to expect anything different from the tribunal.

He knew the fee would be low. He also knew this would give him the opportunity to act like a prize bell-end on SSN and talkshite, an opprtunity he has grabbed with two suspiciously-orange hands.

"Bostock... has been sold for a packet of crisps."

Fuck me, Si - you buy some fancy snacks.

 

[dj_stu]

jordan's a wanker = no sympathy whatsoever

 

[VegasII]

I would feel bad but I think we've just evened up from last time when we signed Wayne Routledge.

 

[tRiKS]

i think the 700k price was shocking. Put your Jordan hates aside... it's bad for any acadamy with running cost of 2m+ a year to only get 700K for a player that they have spend years and years helping as a player and a young man.
The rules and structure of payment is terrible and needs to be changed to include further target related playments as standard. First team starts, goals, international caps, apperances in europe all achieved within a set time. For arguments sake 3 years. Anything beyond 3 years you can claim that the current teams time, coaching and effort was the main contributor to the players achievements. Anything under 3 years then the club who's acadamy he was trained at in would arguably still have been a massvie contributor to that success and should be renumerated accordingly.

In the case of bostock moving to a PL team the set structure could and should be something like this:

Intial compensation = £1m
50 first team starts = 2m
*1st un21 cap = 1m
*1st Full international = 2m

for all those achievements the 6m total outlay for a player ,who at that time would only be 20, is still amazing.

*Depends on the nation. International ranking or coefficent etc would be used to sesibly asses the ease to which it is to become an international class player for one country or another.

 

[KentuckyYid]

I don't understand this international cap add on. It doesn't benefit the buying club that the player got an international cap so why should the former club collect? And even if you all disagree with that, why aren't the F.A. paying it afterall its them who picked the player.

Surely a % of any future sale makes a lot more sense as an add on?

 

[Jody]

I reckon we should bung Jords the £5m if he promises to lose the hair. A small price to pay...

Seriously though, I can't help but think we're gonna be dealing with alot of abuse if Bostock does fulfil his potential. Which in itself isn't a bad thing, but we tend to pride ourselves on occupying the moral high ground.

 

[N17Jack]

Simon Jordan Crystal Palace fuck off

 

[cwhite02]

I think we got a great deal, which of course is great for them. I can see Palace's side though as if it happened to us, we would all be pissed off by a `bigger club`.

Not the best for lower league teams either or the development of English players if they just move in to a big clubs reserves. Lets hope he makes it and gets some first team action and turns out to be a great bargain buy!

COYS

 

[DC_Boy]

It's also worth pointing out (i got this point from an LFC supporter on another site) that lower clubs often benefit from getting bigger club academy products

marney & yeates immediately spring to mind - going back there was crouch - who was released for next to nothing - then other clubs cashed in

 

[worcestersauce]

As I've said before Bostock wasn't under contact to Palace so they have no claim. More relevant is to ask why he wasn't under contract and the answer is that he knew Palace would not develop him because their acadamy wasn't up to it so he wouldn't sign for them.
After that his choice was Spurs for football reasons or chelsea for the money, he chose Spurs which backs up his reason for leaving Palace.

Actually Palace did do something wrong they put up with a poor acadamy.

 

[fozzi44]

think palace got a really rough deal, and can understand Jordans rage. But football is a business and these things happen in business - Jordon should know this more than anyone.