Boxing thread?

[NickHSpurs]

Yep much better from AJ, front footed and aggressive!

These Saudi events are soulless though, all that money and fuck all atmosphere.

 

[jackson]

Yep much better from AJ, front footed and aggressive!

These Saudi events are soulless though, all that money and fuck all atmosphere.

Yeah dead event, really kills the spectacle of a big fight night.

 

[jackson]

Atmosphere picked up when the audio dropped for three rounds...

 

[markt]

Yes best I’ve seen from AJ for years

Yeah definitely it was fun to watch

Let his hands go, but also backed up with accuracy and speed.

 

[McFlash]

Yep much better from AJ, front footed and aggressive!

These Saudi events are soulless though, all that money and fuck all atmosphere.

Yeah, I was about to say the same.
The crowd seems to be mostly rich Arabs who are only there for the status, and have no passion for the sport.
They just sit there, glum as fuck.

When all the ringside seats are taken up by people who may as well be watching the opera, it's all a little demeaning for the two fighters.

Tonight made me feel that boxing is just becoming rich men watching two "animals" attacking each other, for none of the right reasons.

Boxing should never take place in such places, give me York Hall any day of the week.

 

[dontcallme]

While it's true the atmosphere wasn't great, this was the first big fight night in ages.

If this is the way to get the big fights to actually happen, I'm fine with it.

 

[McFlash]

While it's true the atmosphere wasn't great, this was the first big fight night in ages.

If this is the way to get the big fights to actually happen, I'm fine with it.

Not for me.
I'd rather keep boxing where it belongs, in the countries that appreciate it, rather than see it turn into some kind of Hunger Games entertainment for the Uber rich and passionless.
This is sports washing at its worst for me.

 

[NickHSpurs]

While it's true the atmosphere wasn't great, this was the first big fight night in ages.

If this is the way to get the big fights to actually happen, I'm fine with it.

No-one of note in boxing will dare call it for what it is, they’re just making very rich men richer.

Spectacle is being completely ruined. Great card today yes but feels completely soulless.

 

[dontcallme]

Not for me.
I'd rather keep boxing where it belongs, in the countries that appreciate it, rather than see it turn into some kind of Hunger Games entertainment for the Uber rich and passionless.
This is sports washing at its worst for me.

So you want to continue without big fights happening?

This was the first good card in God knows how many years.

 

[Locotoro]

Yep much better from AJ, front footed and aggressive!

These Saudi events are soulless though, all that money and fuck all atmosphere.

My stream was so quiet I could hear the neighbours fart over it

 

[McFlash]

So you want to continue without big fights happening?

This was the first good card in God knows how many years.

I didn't even think it was that great of a card, to be honest.
Wilder is a washed up, one trick pony and AJ just doesn't have the spirit to be a good fighter.
The reason that there haven't been any decent fights for a while is because the heavyweight division has been terrible for ages.
The better boxing is in the lower weight classes and the heavyweights have just become a circus act, a freak show of two big lumps trying (badly) to knock each other out.

I could live without "big fight nights" if this is what they involve.
Give me a full card of hungry, talented boxers any day of the week.

 

[Locotoro]

Not for me.
I'd rather keep boxing where it belongs, in the countries that appreciate it, rather than see it turn into some kind of Hunger Games entertainment for the Uber rich and passionless.
This is sports washing at its worst for me.

I agree with the criticism of the atmosphere but not with the "keep it in the countries that appreciate it". By taking big events to different countries you grow the sport.
If we only ever boxed in US and UK venues we wouldn't have had such legendary fights as Rumble in the Jungle and thriller in Manila. These events also help to export the sport to bigger markets.

Also agree that the current lot and the best of a bad bunch and the only interesting thing is the contrast in styles

 

[McFlash]

I agree with the criticism of the atmosphere but not with the "keep it in the countries that appreciate it". By taking big events to different countries you grow the sport.
If we only ever boxed in US and UK venues we wouldn't have had such legendary fights as Rumble in the Jungle and thriller in Manila. These events also help to export the sport to bigger markets

Oh yeah, I get that, I just don't agree that middle-eastern countries trying to buy it as a status symbol is healthy for the sport.
I don't disagree with boxing taking place in different countries, as long as it's for the right reasons and I don't think this is that.
Comparing tonight to two fights way back in the day, in completely different times and for completely different reasons is disingenuous imo.

 

[dontcallme]

Oh yeah, I get that, I just don't agree that middle-eastern countries trying to buy it as a status symbol is healthy for the sport.
I don't disagree with boxing taking place in different countries, as long as it's for the right reasons and I don't think this is that.
Comparing tonight to two fights way back in the day, in completely different times and for completely different reasons is disingenuous imo.

Fair points but the Rumble in the Jungle definitely was bought as a status symbol by a very corrupt leader. Huge money to the participants making the fight happen.

The parallels are there.

 

[McFlash]

Fair points but the Rumble in the Jungle definitely was bought as a status symbol by a very corrupt leader. Huge money to the participants making the fight happen.

The parallels are there.

Yeah, that's true but at least it was a massive occasion, with a passionate crowd.
Most of the audience today looked like they either didn't care, or didn't really know what was going on.
I've never seen the first few rows of the ringside seats at a big fight look as disinterested as they did tonight and for me, that's a terrible shame and not good for the sport.

 

[McFlash]

Although this has made me chuckle...

We've all been sat in a pub situation like Ronaldo here.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

One step at a time for Joshua but in the highlights he looked a hundred times better prepared than he has in the last couple of years, but what's going on with Wilder? Did they swap him out for a ringer after the 2nd round or something? Parker definitely looked focused. Wilder surely hangs up his gloves after this?

 

[markt]

One step at a time for Joshua but in the highlights he looked a hundred times better prepared than he has in the last couple of years, but what's going on with Wilder? Did they swap him out for a ringer after the 2nd round or something? Parker definitely looked focused. Wilder surely hangs up his gloves after this?

To be fair Wilder had looked like that a few times. 2nd fight against Fury and both times against Ortiz (even against Molina first half)

It's just usually he does find his range and connect. Avoid the right hand which he does choreograph way to much, better boxers will beat him

 

[Locotoro]

One step at a time for Joshua but in the highlights he looked a hundred times better prepared than he has in the last couple of years, but what's going on with Wilder? Did they swap him out for a ringer after the 2nd round or something? Parker definitely looked focused. Wilder surely hangs up his gloves after this?

He barely laid a finger on Parker the whole fight and was going for the KO from the first bell. I hate watching Wilder. He's not a boxer and now he's getting older he's losing the one asset he had.

Joshua has looked serious. He knew if he didn't win convincingly that his career was over. But now with Wilder out the way I think he needs to fight Fury. Fury can beat Usyk and AJ can beat Fury. But I don't think AJ has the mental fortitude to beat Usyk after the last two fights

 

[jackson]

He barely laid a finger on Parker the whole fight and was going for the KO from the first bell. I hate watching Wilder. He's not a boxer and now he's getting older he's losing the one asset he had.

Joshua has looked serious. He knew if he didn't win convincingly that his career was over. But now with Wilder out the way I think he needs to fight Fury. Fury can beat Usyk and AJ can beat Fury. But I don't think AJ has the mental fortitude to beat Usyk after the last two fights

Thing is with Wilder he's not even 'going for the KO' he's waiting, waiting, waiting for the opportunity for a counter punch KO, he's got heart and a big punch but nothing else and doesn't like it when someone puts it on him. He's used to smashing tin cans, and it's obviously a get out of jail card he's got but very limited boxing ability.