Cain Hoy say 'No'.

[CosmicHotspur]

We do need a change that will take us into a top four position on a regular basis, competing with the big boys. If it means new ownership, so be it.

I certainly agree that the club has to approach a change in ownership with real caution. We've seen some of the mistakes other clubs have made.

 

[TheAmerican]

http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+...s+Announces+Launch+of+Operations/9826651.html

Cain Hoy was launched with the support of—and a minority investment from—Guggenheim Capital, the parent company of Guggenheim Partners, the global investment and securities firm. Founders include Todd Boehly, who is President of Guggenheim Capital, Henry Silverman and Jonathan Goldstein. Messrs. Silverman and Goldstein previously were executives at Guggenheim.....

"We are excited to announce the launch of Cain Hoy Enterprises," said Mr. Silverman. "At Cain Hoy, we bring dedicated funding and financial expertise to the goal of creating value over the long term."

Mr. Goldstein added, "Cain Hoy is permanently financed and we are patient investors. This gives us greater flexibility to pursue significant opportunities that need to mature and to develop over time."

 

[TheAmerican]

We do need a change that will take us into a top four position on a regular basis, competing with the big boys. If it means new ownership, so be it.

I certainly agree that the club has to approach a change in ownership with real caution. We've seen some of the mistakes other clubs have made.

It is scary to think about being purchased by an investment group, though. There isn't much money to be made in the first run of things with a team. I would rather be someone's play toy than another's investment, imo.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

What are people so afraid of? Tottenham is not Blackburn, Leeds or any of these other examples. It won't go to the wall. And anyone persuading Levy/Lewis to sell aren't going to be amateurs. If people are happy to drift just above mediocrity then fine, but this idea that most candidates to take over are a huge risk is utter nonsense.

Exactly. You get people on here defending Levy on absolutely everything but it seems some of the BSoDL don't trust him to find a suitable buyer in the best interests of the club. I mean, surely a man of such genie-eye, a man who can do no wrong, a man who as well as running the club is a fan to boot…surely such a tricky, swervy and cunning man would at least make sure of it.

Funny that.

The indignant flim-flam rebuttal is due shortly

PS: I don't believe the article for one minute.

 

[MattPhilpott]

The majority of me has always love the way that we have found reasonable amounts of success as of late without needing to be owned by Arabian super-billionaires, and for that I would like us to stay how we are.

The only problem is is that if we stay how we are, we are only ever going to be a Europa league team who will push 5th or 6th, and at the rate the other teams around us are improving (Everton, Liverpool, even Man Utd eventually) that position will become even harder to achieve.

If we want to step it up and challenge the top teams, as much as it pains me to say it, we need to try and attract big players with lots of money and be able to offer them bigger wages, and a takeover would be a good place to start...

 

[llamafarmer]

Presumably FFP is going to really restrict the chances of anyone doing a Man City again, so the biggest sugar daddy investment you can really hope for is someone who comes along and stumps up the cash for the new stadium leaving the club to take the big increase in revenue without the debt.

ENIC aren't perfect, but the grass isn't always greener.

 

[Mullers]

ENIC have taken us as far as they can, we need substantial investment if want to win things and be in the CL on a regular basis.

Thanks for the one trophy win and one champions league run in 14 years though.

 

[parklane1]

More bullshit from the press if you ask me, so all the "Levy Out" disciples should keep the bunting in the shed for now.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Cain Hoy Finance Limited/Cain Hoy Enterprises Ltd were incorporated in the UK in March/Feb 2014.

Reg Office

33 Davies St, London, W1


Shareholder:

Ace Holdco, LLC
330 Madison Ave, NY


Directors:

Henry Silverman
330 Madison Ave, NY

Andrew Rosenfield
227 W Monroe St, Chicago



Henry Guggenheim's stables were called Cain Hoy.

Pretty sure if there's anything in this, it's Guggenheim related.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

ENIC have taken us as far as they can, we need substantial investment if want to win things and be in the CL on a regular basis.

Thanks for the one trophy win and one champions league run in 14 years though.

Thing is though Mullers, with the bullshit FFP in place, Levy's approach and methodology has probably never been more relevant or appropriate.

 

[Mullers]

More bullshit from the press if you ask me, so all the "Levy Out" disciples should keep the bunting in the shed for now.

You're right, if we put the bunting out that will give our location away to the BSoDL.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Exactly. You get people on here defending Levy on absolutely everything but it seems some of the BSoDL don't trust him to find a suitable buyer in the best interests of the club. I mean, surely a man of such genie-eye, a man who can do no wrong, a man who as well as running the club is a fan to boot…surely such a tricky, swervy and cunning man would at least make sure of it.

Funny that.

The indignant flim-flam rebuttal is due shortly

PS: I don't believe the article for one minute.

But at the end of the day, if the fans don't want him and he wants to sell then why bother getting the best for the Club, he's not appreciated by a huge section of fans-in my opinion he'd be within his rights to just sell to the highest bidder. Which could be disastrous.

Personally I don't think he'd go that way, but it's certainly a possibility.

 

[Mullers]

Thing is though Mullers, with the bullshit FFP in place, Levy's approach and methodology has probably never been more relevant or appropriate.

His approach and methodology isn't bringing results, so something has to change,

 

[Mullers]

But at the end of the day, if the fans don't want him and he wants to sell then why bother getting the best for the Club, he's not appreciated by a huge section of fans-in my opinion he'd be within his rights to just sell to the highest bidder. Which could be disastrous.

Personally I don't think he'd go that way, but it's certainly a possibility.

Are you kidding me???
Thousands of people love this guy off!!!

 

[Francis Gibbs]

But at the end of the day, if the fans don't want him and he wants to sell then why bother getting the best for the Club, he's not appreciated by a huge section of fans-in my opinion he'd be within his rights to just sell to the highest bidder. Which could be disastrous.

Personally I don't think he'd go that way, but it's certainly a possibility.

all about legacy for Levy, for all my dislike of certain elements as to how he runs the club he wont in a fit of pique screw the club and his legacy.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Are you kidding me???
Thousands of people love this guy off!!!

And as many blindly dislike his control and show no understanding or appreciation of many positives. Certainly the more vocal of the two groups are those that would prefer to be sold. In my opinion.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

all about legacy for Levy, for all my dislike of certain elements as to how he runs the club he wont in a fit of pique screw the club and his legacy.

Personally I agree, but there is no 'guarantee' of this. Especially as all those against the Lewis/Levy ownership keep proclaiming they are only about making money from the Club which is only an investment for them.....

 

[Bus-Conductor]

His approach and methodology isn't bringing results, so something has to change,

You don't think two top four finishes, 4 top 5 finishes, a League Cup, a league cup final, some semis, and European football for umpteen seasons running on the 6th biggest wage bill, outperforming similar or bigger clubs regularly in a market with at least 5 substantially wealthier clubs, whilst breaking even or making very small profit is getting results ?

Mullers, I'm not saying he gets everything right, but "not getting results" is a pretty bazaar statement to make.

 

[Mullers]

And as many blindly dislike his control and show no understanding or appreciation of many positives. Certainly the more vocal of the two groups are those that would prefer to be sold. In my opinion.

I sure as hell haven't seen that and definitely not on here.

 

[danielneeds]

ENIC have taken us as far as they can, we need substantial investment if want to win things and be in the CL on a regular basis.

Thanks for the one trophy win and one champions league run in 14 years though.

You don't think that finishing the stadium project is another level they can take us to?