Cain Hoy say 'No'.

[mrlilywhite]

Blue and white were the colours of the jockeys for Cain Hoy stables.

Perhaps they are just interested in us to keep their company colours in unison..

 

[sloth]

Sorry Sloth, I don't like to reveal too much private stuff about myself on these forums or on the internet.

That's alright Mullers, it's just i imagined you must be a student or something.

 

[Lilbaz]

I enjoyed all those moments but those things haven't happened recently that is the point.
As for Basle I knew it would be a hard match but a team of our standing, who aspires to be top 4 should have beaten them.

For any top 4 one trophy in 14 years isn't good enough, if we had a coach and that had won only trophy there would be outrage. People have created threads like lets laugh at Chelsea, so imagine what people would be like here if they won one trophy in 14 years.

How many trophies?

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I enjoyed all those moments but those things haven't happened recently that is the point.
As for Basle I knew it would be a hard match but a team of our standing, who aspires to be top 4 should have beaten them.

For any top 4 one trophy in 14 years isn't good enough, if we had a coach and that had won only trophy there would be outrage. People have created threads like lets laugh at Chelsea, so imagine what people would be like here if they won one trophy in 14 years.

This is where your argument fails. We were only fighting for the Top 4 from 2005-2007 and since 2009, so it's not exactly like we've been fighting for the Top 4 in the last 14 years.

 

[thfc1989]

Do Guggenheim have any links with the NFL?

 

[Mullers]

How many trophies?

How many trophies what?

 

[Mullers]

This is where your argument fails. We were only fighting for the Top 4 from 2005-2007 and since 2009, so it's not exactly like we've been fighting for the Top 4 in the last 14 years.

Thats because we weren't good enough, it doesn't mean that the aspiration or mentality wasn't there. It was there even from Sugars day.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

I enjoyed all those moments but those things haven't happened recently that is the point.
As for Basle I knew it would be a hard match but a team of our standing, who aspires to be top 4 should have beaten them.

For any top 4 one trophy in 14 years isn't good enough, if we had a coach and that had won only trophy there would be outrage. People have created threads like lets laugh at Chelsea, so imagine what people would be like here if they won one trophy in 14 years.

Mullers, do you give no credit for the fact that when Levy took over we'd become a club that had become associated with relegation battles and he's turned it into the strongest of the clubs outside the big-money brigade? And that whilst doing that he's also trying to address the financial situation so that we should actually be able to compete with those clubs too?

He could have done better, as could everyone, at every club. But he took on a very difficult situation and while vastly more money has poured into Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, competing at the top has become harder, not easier, and yet we are doing it better now than we did 14 years ago, and with a plan for the future. That's not all that bad is it?

 

[Bulletspur]

I think they will improve us no end, but they will not just invest just for the sake of it. It seems they are just a better ENIC, which is fine by me.

Nail on Head. Reading these many pages and posts from those who seem to know these matters - enter @Dirty Ewok and @davidmatzdorf - I came to the conclusion that Cain Hoy is just a an extreme upgrade to ENIC. In that case if the rumours are to be believed and there was a subsequent offer and acceptance by all parties concerned, then that can only be good for speedy progress, continuity etc.

 

[Lilbaz]

How many trophies what?

How many trophies have we won in the last 14 years?

 

[SteveH]

Nail on Head. Reading these many pages and posts from those who seem to know these matters - enter @Dirty Ewok and @davidmatzdorf - I came to the conclusion that Cain Hoy is just a an extreme upgrade to ENIC. In that case if the rumours are to be believed and there was a subsequent offer and acceptance by all parties concerned, then that can only be good for speedy progress, continuity etc.

Levy must stay IMHO. Not so bothered about the money, can take it or leave it. Other than David Deane (which is not going to happen) who for me set Arsenal up for success, I can think of nobody better suited than Daniel Levy to be our chairman.

 

[Mullers]

He could have done better, as could everyone, at every club. But he took on a very difficult situation and while vastly more money has poured into Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, competing at the top has become harder, not easier, and yet we are doing it better now than we did 14 years ago, and with a plan for the future. That's not all that bad is it?

I don't have a problem with giving Levy credit I have done on many occasions but hardcore BSoDL members pretend I havent.

The problem is many people just want to hear the good stuff, they don't want him to be criticised. That's why when someone starts a topic criticising him, they get abused and neg repped to death unless the poster says something good about Levy first. They don't treat players and coaching staff in the same manner when a coach criticises Levy,it's always the coach that is wrong, it's always the coach who is the liar.
If it's a coach like Redknapp or Sherwood saying it, they will dismiss immediately without thinking about it.

He could have done better, as could everyone, at every club. But he took on a very difficult situation and while vastly more money has poured into Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, competing at the top has become harder, not easier, and yet we are doing it better now than we did 14 years ago, and with a plan for the future. That's not all that bad is it?

I've heard this excuse time and time again mate. No one says when Lennon does a bad cross, well he should have done better but every winger at every club fucks up a cross, its difficult playing in the premier league. There was no sympathy shown to Bent when he was here, same with Dempsey. Ghaly threw down his shirt and was hounded out the club.

Levy sets high standards for his coaches, he expects them to get a champions league place. He held Comolli accountable for Ramos's failure because he chose him and got rid of him.

Why should I be sympathetic to him, when he hasn't shown the same attitude to his coaches? He should be judged by the standards he sets other.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

And why do you think Levy deserves more time? Why don't you judge him in the same way you judge Jol and Redknapp and Dawson?

I do Mullers, I just seem to evaluate his performance as a chairman a lot higher than you.

But just like those others you mention, if I thought there was a better option available than Levy, I'd happily take it and say thanks and goodbye.

Before FFP I always said I'd happily take a sugar daddy. I have no moral qualms with that.

I just think now with FFP Levy's stewardship is a damn good fit.

 

[Mullers]

How many trophies have we won in the last 14 years?

One.

 

[Trebmint2013]

Lets not forget that they are an investor in real estate, and Spurs aren't currently just a football club, but a club that own a large amount of land with planning for several hundred flats in one of the property growth hot spots in the world

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I don't have a problem with giving Levy credit I have done on many occasions but hardcore BSoDL members pretend I havent.

The problem is many people just want to hear the good stuff, they don't want him to be criticised. That's why when someone starts a topic criticising him, they get abused and neg repped to death unless the poster says something good about Levy first. They don't treat players and coaching staff in the same manner when a coach criticises Levy,it's always the coach that is wrong, it's always the coach who is the liar.
If it's a coach like Redknapp or Sherwood saying it, they will dismiss immediately without thinking about it.


I've heard this excuse time and time again mate. No one says when Lennon does a bad cross, well he should have done better but every winger at every club fucks up a cross, its difficult playing in the premier league. There was no sympathy shown to Bent when he was here, same with Dempsey. Ghaly threw down his shirt and was hounded out the club.

Levy sets high standards for his coaches, he expects them to get a champions league place. He held Comolli accountable for Ramos's failure because he chose him and got rid of him.

Why should I be sympathetic to him, when he hasn't shown the same attitude to his coaches? He should be judged by the standards he sets other.

We kept AVB when we finished 5th.

 

[Colonel Dax]

Levy must stay IMHO. Not so bothered about the money, can take it or leave it. Other than David Deane (which is not going to happen) who for me set Arsenal up for success, I can think of nobody better suited than Daniel Levy to be our chairman.

I'd rather he went. Done well, but time to move on IMO. Even with barrels of cash at his disposal he still wouldn't be to resist making bids for players at 10pm on transfer deadline day. He just loves it.

 

[Lilbaz]

One.

Wow. And why is this fact being brought up so many times in the Cain Hoy thread?

 

[Mullers]

I don't really know the truth about his sacking, but you would always hope it could be conducted with some dignity.

I would think the few million quid he received from spurs possibly softened the blow though.

Personally I didn't think he deserved more time. I think he'd had plenty. And I didn't think he was


I do Mullers, I just seem to evaluate his performance as a chairman a lot higher than you.

But you don't lay into him for the mistakes he made. Do you think he has made any mistakes? If so what?

 

[Mullers]

Wow. And why is this fact being brought up so many times in the Cain Hoy thread?

Because it's true.