Player Cameron Carter-Vickers

[KeithStone]

He’s a real rolls roy… 2CV of a defender.

In all seriousness, if he’s one of the ones Big Ange wants, then let’s bring him in.

 

[mil1lion]

We need clear improvements in defence and I don't see him being that

 

[Russ1201]

He’s a real rolls roy… 2CV of a defender.

In all seriousness, if he’s one of the ones Big Ange wants, then let’s bring him in.

I'm sure Levy would be all four backing Big Ange with CCV a nice cheap defender
But i see your point need to finally start trusting manager picks couldn't be any worse than Levy's.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

We need clear improvements in defence and I don't see him being that

Knows the club, know Ange's style of football, good in a high line, homegrown.. would be a good squad player to come in for Romero. Then we sign Lenglet and Adarabioyo and Laporte and that would be our CB’s sorted for ages altho with no europe mabye 5 CB’s is overkill

 

[Misfit]

As long as the manager wants him here...he's the one whose job depends on the form and finish of the players.

He'll be held to that standard whether he has a squad full of players he's happy with or not so might as well give him a fair shake.

(FML though)

 

[mil1lion]

Knows the club, know Ange's style of football, good in a high line, homegrown.. would be a good squad player to come in for Romero. Then we sign Lenglet and Adarabioyo and Laporte and that would be our CB’s sorted for ages altho with no europe mabye 5 CB’s is overkill

Like hell we're signing that many CBs
We don't need another 'good squad player'

 

[ARMASPUR]

I swear, Levy has worn some of us down over the years to the point we would dress anything up. CCV is not good enough, definitely not the type of player we should be looking at. More deadwood to shift after already shifting him

 

[chas vs dave]

I swear, Levy has worn some of us down over the years to the point we would dress anything up. CCV is not good enough, definitely not the type of player we should be looking at. More deadwood to shift after already shifting him

Why does this have anything to do with Levy? If he comes, it would be off the back of Ange wanting him.

Isn't that the purpose of backing your manager?

 

[C0YS]

Thoughts go back to how Neil Ruddock left the club and then returned after a few years when he reached his mid 20s.

To be honest, I think both him and Juan Foyth have been very unlucky with their Spurs careers. Having managers that stick to players with name and status, never prepared to put faith in them. CCV was mostly out on loan, came back for summer pre season - was always the best performing player paired with Sanchez etc. Then no chance given when season kicked off. 5 games, no league games, over 6 years. At Celtic they compare him with van Dijk's performances for them. I wouldn't mind getting him back, and sending Tanganga or Rodon there in a deal.

You cant compare foyth and CCV tbh. Foyth was quite clearly supremely talented and a first team player but extremely error prone. He was already being converted to full back and I fully believe if Potch stayed thats where he would have played. But Mourinho comes in, foyth has a shocker at CB in his one game under him and Jose chooses to ship off a player that if he'd stayed would have solved our right back problems long term. Hes now recognised as possibly the best right back in la liga and is likely off to Barcelona.

CCV is a player who rarely played and did okay in a few championship loans and it appeared his level. He went to celtic, a team which are frankly equivalent ability wise to a championship team and preformed very well.

Now, it might well be that he has developed a lot and is ready for the PL, but I'm a little bit cautious. Ange has no experience managing a team of our quality and may not truly know the gulf in ability between the SPL and PL. So, he needs guidance here. If our experienced scouts think CCV has gone up a gear and is ready to play for us than great. It might help with the transition. If not then no.

 

[ARMASPUR]

Why does this have anything to do with Levy? If he comes, it would be off the back of Ange wanting him.

Isn't that the purpose of backing your manager?

Because in my opinion Levy has set this mentality at the Club whereby some of our fans accept mediocrity in every aspect and are willing to make excuses for it. Sorry, but no team with top 4 aspirations would make this signing. If that’s backing the manager then I would worry about that appointment of Ange, which also leads back to Levy. That’s just how I feel and of course I’m happy to be proven wrong.

 

[chas vs dave]

Because in my opinion Levy has set this mentality at the Club whereby some of our fans accept mediocrity in every aspect and are willing to make excuses for it. Sorry, but no team with top 4 aspirations would make this signing. If that’s backing the manager then I would worry about that appointment of Ange, which also leads back to Levy. That’s just how I feel and of course I’m happy to be proven wrong.

What mentality? I don't think anyone accepts mediocrity, it seems a lot of our fans seem to be bereft of any form of pragmatic thinking.

In turn, we don't have some god given right to expect anything.

We don't have endless pots of money and a lot to do, if ange wants him, and trusts him then that's all that matters.

 

[ARMASPUR]

What mentality? I don't think anyone accepts mediocrity, it seems a lot of our fans seem to be bereft of any form of pragmatic thinking.

In turn, we don't have some god given right to expect anything.

We don't have endless pots of money and a lot to do, if ange wants him, and trusts him then that's all that matters.

I think it’s been well covered previously, we do have a right to have exceptions. We pay the highest ticket prices, damn right I have expectations what’s the point otherwise. Not having an endless pot of money doesn’t mean we need to go back on for CCV who was at our club already for many years. From what I’ve seen of him I don’t rate him . I said it years ago on here as well and got slated for it and I’ve seen nothing to change my mind. Anyway, we see it differently so no point going round in circles on it .

 

[Kirito]

 

[Japhet]

Maybe CCV would be a preferable squad option to some of the others, but we need to be making a big, big upgrade at starting CBs. I don't know why he'd come back to sit on the bench again though. We probably have a sell on % on CCV as well which makes him extra cheap so that will get Levy's pecker twitching.

 

[Powder Keg]

It took us about 5 years to get rid of him. We should not be bringing him back.

 

[Cel]

As long as we get another quality starting CB in to replace Lenglet, it's a Home Grown, Club trained, likely upgrade on Sanchez for the 4th CB spot -, that Ange has worked with recently so will 100% know if he;s progressed..

Looks a sensible squad building move to me.

Can't afford to buy a squad of superstars, especially a 4th choice CB. The more of those 'useful' players that are HG the better.

If it's the primary option to play with Romero, I would be underwhelmed though.

 

[coy-spurs1882]

seems meaningless to spend money to replace Tanganga as we may just use Abbott/Paskotsi/Dorrington etc, they won't play anyway
if he is considered as a starting CB to be signed, then we are fucked

 

[Cel]

seems meaningless to spend money to replace Tanganga as we may just use Abbott/Paskotsi/Dorrington etc, they won't play anyway
if he is considered as a starting CB to be signed, then we are fucked

IMO - I want someone who has games and experience under thier belts to come in if needed. The youngsters need loans, not to sit on our bench, or they wont develop, we don't have enough games next year. I'd see it as

1st Romero
2nd NEW Starting CB (Lenglet)
3rd Dier (I think the end of his contract is lined up with dorrington breaking though, if he's going to) or a Loan for the same reason if he's sold.
4th CCV (Sanchez)
5th Davies/academy as emergency 5th choice whilst being back up LB.

Tanganga just isn't good enough and should be sold - perfect example of why I'd prefer the kids to be loaned, as he's never had enough game time to develop his game properly.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

We need clear improvements in defence and I don't see him being that

IMO he's a clear improvement on Dier and Sanchez as 4th choice / RCB in a high press possession system.

Thought spot to fill with no Europe to offer.

Who wants to be 4th choice in a 38 game (+ Cups) season?

I imagine our thinking is to go big on a 1st XI LCB, then add a 2nd CB who would be 3rd choice for injuries / rotation for either Romero or the LCB.

Maybe Lenglet or my preference would be Ibanez.

Making the 3rd CB a more attractive role to get a better player and justify better wages if they're covering / competing with both CBs.

Then add a homegrown 4th CB only IF we move on Dier and Sanchez.

On this basis it's a sensible move, and gives us the flexibility to develop and loan out Dorrington and see where he gets to in 2-3 years.

 

[Ginola+Tonic]

I refuse to believe this is a real link.
I’d be very surprised if he was under consideration