Carrick coming back?!

[rez9000]

I don't think it's completely outside the realms of possibility. If he's third choice CM behind Hargreaves and Anderson then he may well decide that first-team football at a 'lower' club is more attractive than being a bench-warmer for the Champions (shades of Defoe in that analysis).

I don't necessarily believe that the story has any basis in fact, but I wouldn't discount the possibility. However, as stated by others, I seriously doubt that Levy would swallow the first crumb of the humble pie that would be bringing Carrick back.

ED: And 18 mil is too much, especially considering that of the 18.6 Utd paid, a proportion of that was performance and appearance based, so we would actually lose money in bringing him back at that price.

 

[joey55]

It's never going to happen. He's been injured and is just getting back to full fitness. He'll be back in the Utd team within the next couple of weeks. Hargreaves isn't going to stay in the team for long playing as he has been. The guy just isn't a 442 footballer. If Bayern played 442 they'd play him on the right. Playing in the middle at International level is different to the Prem, which is much quicker. Carrick, Scholes and Anderson all have more complete games than Hargreaves.

 

[Spurs_Q8]

I don't want him ..

1- he decided to leave us when we needed him

2- paying big money for him is a step back because he isn't that good as he was in recent two years if we compared him to the new comers and stars in EPL, so .. paying £18m for him is a huge mistake and waste of money !

3- A Carrick better passer/Positioning than we have, but he isn't toucher and better tackler than Zokora, Tainio, Huddlestone which mean weaker defending for us. Still think Paulsen is better option than Carrick for us, cheaper and better fitness !

4- I think we need to sign experienced DC instead of paying £18m for Carrick .. because we already have Kaboul for that role, who is strong, good tackler, had decent passing and shooting !

 

[joey55]

I don't want him ..

1- he decided to leave us when we needed him

2- paying big money for him is a step back because he isn't that good as he was in recent two years if we compared him to the new comers and stars in EPL, so .. paying £18m for him is a huge mistake and waste of money !

3- A Carrick better passer/Positioning than we have, but he isn't toucher and better tackler than Zokora, Tainio, Huddlestone which mean weaker defending for us. Still think Paulsen is better option than Carrick for us, cheaper and better fitness !

4- I think we need to sign experienced DC instead of paying £18m for Carrick .. because we already have Kaboul for that role, who is strong, good tackler, had decent passing and shooting !

1. Carrick did say he'd stay, but he wanted to go. So we could have kept him. Also, if you look at all our other top players, they were all offered new deals within the first 2 years of the contracts, but it appears Carrick wasn't. SO it as much the clubs fault he left as Carricks.

2. I kind of agree with your second point. I think he is still as good and still arguably the best in Europe, but in the specific role he played under Jol. From what I've seen of Seville, Ramos likes to play his 2 CMs in the same way Fergie plays his at Utd, which takes responsibility off Carrick and seriously deminishes his worth to the team. For us he played as the pivot through which everything passed, with box to box player in front of him. But at Utd they play a more flat and restrictive CM pairing.

3. Carrick is on a different planet to Poulsen. I'd take Keita in a flash who I think is superb and good enough for the top 4 sides in the Prem. Poulsen is decent, but nothing special.
In his last season with us Carrick made 135 tackles, which last season would have been the joint 4th highest in the Prem. So the fact he isn't a tough tackler doesn't matter, as he is efficient and will win the ball as much as the toughest players around.

4. Agree we desperatley need a top quality, experienced CB. Not sure about Kaboul in CM. He has some of the right attributes, but having the physical and technical attributes aren't always enough. A good football brain to read the play and position yourself correctly is key to that CM role and it's difficult to know if Kaboul has this. He might, but we don't know, so we'd have to see him play there a few times first.

 

[Gilzeanking]

See , in my humble opinion , a large part of our slump after Carrick's departure was down to David's loss of form/departure .

So its a no thanks from me .

 

[amardilo]

Having Carrick back would be fantastic..... although I don't see it happening anytime soon though as I think Carrick maybe happy to fight for his place at Man Utd.

Although having someone like Carrick back would be great for our defence and attackers (also I think JJ wouldn't mind playing alongside him again).

 

[Bobishism]

1. Carrick did say he'd stay, but he wanted to go. So we could have kept him. Also, if you look at all our other top players, they were all offered new deals within the first 2 years of the contracts, but it appears Carrick wasn't. SO it as much the clubs fault he left as Carricks.

:lol: Or perhaps he never accepted the offered contract?

 

[Jack2]

Never ever going to happen. :bs:

 

[joey55]

:lol: Or perhaps he never accepted the offered contract?

Just going on what was said in the press.

 

[joey55]

See , in my humble opinion , a large part of our slump after Carrick's departure was down to David's loss of form/departure .

So its a no thanks from me .

But we played better without Davids, or at least and most importantly we won more points. From Davids 1st game to his last he played just over half the matches. Yet we earned 0.5 pts per game more without him. At the time I was in favour of Davids, but there were alot (perhaps a majority) who saw him as a liability. At the end of the day, opinion is worth jack shit next to results, so to be fair, those who were critical of Davids were right. Also from the moment he left the club, to the end of the season, we won the 3rd highest points total in the Prem and went on a run from the bottom half to 5th.

 

[nicdic]

I still love you Michael ray:

 

[Shanks]

I'd take Carrick in exchange for Berbs.

 

[gibbs131]

He will not want to come back to us. Why should he?

 

[tRiKS]

I don't want him ..

1- he decided to leave us when we needed him

2- paying big money for him is a step back because he isn't that good as he was in recent two years if we compared him to the new comers and stars in EPL, so .. paying £18m for him is a huge mistake and waste of money !

3- A Carrick better passer/Positioning than we have, but he isn't toucher and better tackler than Zokora, Tainio, Huddlestone which mean weaker defending for us. Still think Paulsen is better option than Carrick for us, cheaper and better fitness !

4- I think we need to sign experienced DC instead of paying £18m for Carrick .. because we already have Kaboul for that role, who is strong, good tackler, had decent passing and shooting !

chirst there is so much on here factually wrong but point 4 has convinced me you're taking the piss so i won't respond with an essay.

 

[tRiKS]

:lol: Or perhaps he never accepted the offered contract?

perhaps perhaps. one thing can not be denied though. for a geordie boy brought up at Westham he was incredibly low key and dignified over leaving.

 

[Damian99]

If he`s not good enough for Man United, he`s not good enough for us :razz:

 

[Spursking]

I have to admit: I do not want us to spend £18mill on Carrick and get him back to WHL. He is a good player, but he is not worth £18mill. We can get a very good other midfielder for about £7-£10mill.

 

[joey55]

I have to admit: I do not want us to spend £18mill on Carrick and get him back to WHL. He is a good player, but he is not worth £18mill. We can get a very good other midfielder for about £7-£10mill.

Didn't we already try that?

 

[Spursking]

Didn't we already try that?

There are many good alternatives in central midfield, but why did we not sign Lassana Diarra from Chelsea??

 

[SpurSince57]

Absolutely. He's been brilliant for Arsenal this season, simply undroppable.