Cengiz Under
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Snarfalicious
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So, looking at this realistically, Under looks to primarily plays as a LW (from my lengthy research that started today, he can also play on the right and is strongest on his left foot). Sessegnon would likely play as a LW initially. Lemar (dream signing) is best on the left (but can also play on the right).
I think most would agree the Back 3 is likely here to stay. Unless we are selling Sissoko, Nkoudou and maybe even Lamela (hope not), that's a super crowded attacking midfield group. That being said, we have seen Pochettino revert to the 4-2-3-1 and if he had this sort of talent to choose from, you could see him opt for that more often, just to get them on the pitch.
I think most would agree the Back 3 is likely here to stay. Unless we are selling Sissoko, Nkoudou and maybe even Lamela (hope not), that's a super crowded attacking midfield group. That being said, we have seen Pochettino revert to the 4-2-3-1 and if he had this sort of talent to choose from, you could see him opt for that more often, just to get them on the pitch.
spursfan77
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How many Turkish players have done well in England?
We keep on wasting money on players like this, njie and nkoudou. £30 million there that could have been spent on one proper player.
Edit: I just thought of one who did well. Tugay at Blackburn. Classy midfielder.
We keep on wasting money on players like this, njie and nkoudou. £30 million there that could have been spent on one proper player.
Edit: I just thought of one who did well. Tugay at Blackburn. Classy midfielder.
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Luka Van der Bale
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The massive assumption here is that this transfer wouldn't work out. If we do sign him, maybe give him a chance before assuming it wouldn't work based on his nationality?
From the video, he looks a very similar type of player to Marcus Edwards, tight close control primarily on his left foot, always looking to cut inside and run at defenders.
Not sure if I think signing a young player from overseas - who would need time to adjust both to the Premier League and Poch's methods - to play in the same position as one of the very best prospects in our Academy is a great idea.
Not sure if I think signing a young player from overseas - who would need time to adjust both to the Premier League and Poch's methods - to play in the same position as one of the very best prospects in our Academy is a great idea.
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I'm not saying he's not going to work out but just pointing out that Turkish players haven't thrived here. I don't know why.
I know we've been fed the line we can't compete for the top players which I understand but we keep going for unknowns not the obvious up and coming players.
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The same was said to me about Korean players when we signed Sonny.
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Probably one of the things that irk me most is when people say a player will fail because of where they come from. Just don't understand how people can paint in broad strokes like that. Should operate under the assumption there can be exceptions to the rule, not generalize. You trust your scouting department, and you don't rule out a player simply because of where they come from.
spursfan77
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But Park and Lee had done well here. Son was the best Asian player in europe not an unknown kid. I'd always liked Son so was a bit biased when we signed him.
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agree with the bolded part. we need to stop these blind gambling and spend more wisely
Luka Van der Bale
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I don't see the problem though. Look through our team - Walker, Rose, Davies, Dier, Alli, Huddlestone, Bale, Dawson, Lennon, Eriksen... We've had a lot of success with this type of signing. Cheap gambles on young talent. Signing this guy won't be the reason we don't land a Lemar or a Costa. He's not an alternative. This is how the likes of Dortmund and Atleti keep coming back year on year, and is exactly the type of signing we need to keep making, hopefully in addition to the Lemars we all want to see Spurs start competing for. But we shouldn't lose sight of what got us here.
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son scored 10+ goals in 3 consecutive seasons in Bundesliga which is a much better league than the Turkish league before he joined us
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Every transfer is a gamble.
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our position has changed. if new players do not have the impact as dele or dier fans would want them sold. can we provide them sufficient game time to develop and fulfill their potential? i doubt that
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the odds can be different. i prefer a transfer with lower risk
Luka Van der Bale
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What do you suggest?
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I'm not comparing this guy with Son. I was responding to a generic point that players of a certain nationality won't be successful in the PL.
Each signing or potential signing has to be judged on it's own merits and if we are, consistent with Poch's plan, looking to purchase young talent across Europe then I welcome it.
We have got to where we are through buying and developing young players and if we add one or two established stars as well then great.
We are the envy of a lot of teams because of what we paid for Bale, Rose, Walker, Dier, Dele etc. when they were all just potential. Not one of them worth under £40 mill now.
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http://www.ajansspor.com/futbol/haber/29-05-17/151570/gumusdagdan-cengiz-under-aciklamasi
Medipol Basaksehir President Göksel Gümüşdağ clarified the allegations that Cengiz Ünder was transferred to Tottenham.
Speaking to Radyospor, Gümüşdağ did not interpret the claims that Genghis Under was transferred to Tottenham, he used the expression "There is no such thing at present".
Medipol Basaksehir President Göksel Gümüşdağ clarified the allegations that Cengiz Ünder was transferred to Tottenham.
Speaking to Radyospor, Gümüşdağ did not interpret the claims that Genghis Under was transferred to Tottenham, he used the expression "There is no such thing at present".
spursfan77
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I wanted us to sign Lemar 2 seasons ago when he was a better player than the 2 we picked up from France and wouldn't have costed much more at the time. That was just bad scouting on the club's part.
The majority of the players you mention were well known promising youngsters though so it was good transfer business going for them. I don't believe anyone on SC had heard of this guy, njie and nkoudou before we were linked with and signed them. That's what I'm trying to get at. They weren't stand out youngsters. Players like Lennon, Alli, Huddlestone, Bale and Walker, for example were. Eriksen was young but an exceptionally talented and experienced for his age player when we got him so doesn't really fit the same mould.
