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Charitable Foundation to help buy Adebayor

thekneaf

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Just had an idea, may be wrong headed, but it was a bit of Friday morning dreaming. Now we know that Ade wont take a pay cut for the duration of his contract at Man City (how long does that have left to run?). Why should he, they were fools enough to offer it to him.

Taking this into account we can't match that wage. Even buying him on the cheap and paying him a signing on fee would be expensive, incurring a large sum of tax.

Ade has also expressed that he wants his high wage because he uses it to help people in his homeland. What if he was to set up a Charity and we donated the difference in earnings to that Charity in a non tax deductible way. Done badly this would be tax evasion, but done properly could this work? So long as Ade doesn't use the money to buy Jaguars and private jets or whatever you spend money on if the price of beer hasn't cleaned you out.
 

#1 Spur

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Is there a difference between doing this badly and properly?

For one, is it even legal? Wouldn't more footballers be doing it?
 

BringBack_leGin

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When I saw the title I thought you were going to suggest that every Spurs fan who has a season ticket put £5/week towards Adebayors wages. £5!!! There are what, 20,000 ST holders? So we'd pay £100k/week and the club pay the other £80k/week.
 

CosmicHotspur

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?
 

Real_madyidd

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?

It's not just you. I honestly think that although he is very good, he isn't as good as some other members of our squad and certainly is not worthy of higher wages.
 

tototoner

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If he doesn't want to accept our wage structure then we should not buy him
 

dav3j

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?

I see what you mean, but I think he holds the ball up pretty well and has got a fantastic first touch. What was the game where he kept the ball at his feet while he was being crowded out by defenders before setting up a goal? That was top notch. He needs to time his runs better but I think the more he gets used to playing with the team the better this will get.
 

tototoner

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?

I never wanted him but I do admit he has done very well for us , but I wouldn't lose any sleep over it if we didn't sign him personally

Harry needs to bring someone in in January to give him decent compeition ( because Pav isn't ), maybe then he wouldn't smile so much when catch offside for the 10th time in a game or when shooting wide again
 

akie

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Ade has been good, but normally wherever he goes he has a good start and falls away, he has been good linking with defoe/vdv
 

JerryGarcia

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Come on now, there's so much more to his game than scoring goals, as long as he keeps setting them up then we're going to win games more often than not. Didn't things go wrong for him at Arsenal because the fans started getting on his back? If we support him, he will score.
 

SubZero

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?
No, it's not just you. While no one can deny his obvious skill, he looks like he has a comfort zone the size of Sweden. I can appreciate him being happy at Spurs, but I'd rather see him hungry and sharp than happy. And he doesn't seem hungry to me at all. Yes, he runs around a bit and link up well at times, but his finishing is not good enough for a striker of his calibre, his reaction time is sometimes Crouch-like, his vision/decision making is shaky, and his overall play nowhere near constitutes a wage double that of Luka's.

It should be noted that it's all seen in context relative to this fact, he is still a very good player indeed. But Ade himself has stated that he's not willing to take a pay cut, and regardless of what charity he sets up or what cause it funds, doesn't make it easier for the club to pay it. So then he bloody well better start earning it, do it for the children, Ade! :)

His first three games were magnificent, so it's not a question about ability. He's clearly content at the club and smiles about it, so it's probably not a confidence issue either. Every game just looks like a training session to him. As I've said before: Ade is exactly what we need, but he is not good enough at being exactly what we need. In other words, we should try to keep him, but we should not go overboard to do so. Ade should in no way be our first full £100k+/w earner.

All in my humble opinion, of course.
 

Rout-Ledge

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He does everything except score goals very well, and he still manages to net a fair few regardless
 

wadewill

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If he doesn't want to accept our wage structure then we should not buy him

Agreed.

If he was Ronaldo maybe, but that he certainly aint.

He isnt as good as the like of Modric, Parker, Bale etc... so why should he command more wages than them?
 

vegassd

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There is already a way that fans can contribute money to have good players at the club - ticket sales and merchandise.
 

kaz Hirai

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:lol: no chance! no chance at all, he gets paid enough to play a game of football if the stupidly huge sum of money that our top earners get isnt enough then too bad

he's a big improvement on crouch, but he isnt even one of our top 5 players imo. we could find better, cheaper strikers in the summer with a couple of clever purchases
 

Rout-Ledge

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:lol: no chance! no chance at all, he gets paid enough to play a game of football if the stupidly huge sum of money that our top earners get isnt enough then too bad

he's a big improvement on crouch, but he isnt even one of our top 5 players imo. we could find better, cheaper strikers in the summer with a couple of clever purchases

I agree with your first paragraph and disagree with your second.

He probably is in our top 5 players but more importantly he's probably, as it stands, the most important player in our side. We don't have anyone else who can link the attack and the midfield like he does and, for my money, is the reason we are able to break teams down unlike last season.
 

Dubwise

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i think he has been the difference for us this season, i would prefer him upfront playing his normal game on a goal scoring drought than Defoe playing and scoring every week.

I was crying out for a clinical striker in the off season, Adebayor is not clinical but he brings out the best in the players around him

He is a big lad, how many times do you see us lump the long ball up to him to try and head down to VDV like we did with crouch? Not very often which says a lot when you think of his size, people always said it was not Crouchs fault we played long ball to him, it was the players for just seeing a tall guy and thinking long ball

Well with Ade we have a player who looks to receieve it at his feet, with the players surrounding him that is invaluable, eventhough he is not clinical we are not having problems scoring and i think its because of Ade being able to let players like Bale give and receive, the guy has a footballing brain and he might miss 5 sitters a game but i would prefer that then Defoe who maybe gets one chance and puts it away. If you missing 5 chances your getting into 5 good positions and the goals eventually come

If Adebayor leaves and we retain Modric and Bale in off season, we need an Ade type replacement, if modric and or bale or vdv leave then maybe someone who is a pure finisher and a different style can be adapted
 

stemark44

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I fully expect to be criticised for this but I don't rate him as highly as some of our supporters seem to.

No denying that he does have his good flashes and scores some great goals but his reactions during a game often seem slow to me and I find myself groaning and muttering, "Not again!" when he doesn't get into position quickly enough to receive a pass and that does seem to happen fairly often.

Is it just me who doesn't rate him quite as highly as other players in our squad?

Absolutely not.
I am not a huge fan of him and I would have preferred other strikers who we actually could have bought and not just got in on loan.

The guy is putting in decent shifts but most of his best work is done on the touch line and not in the box.You can't score goals from there.

I want my striker busting a gut to get into the box and getting ahead of defenders to bang in shots and get in headers.

Obviously when we compare him with some of our recent strikers like Defoe,Keane,Crouch and Pav then he looks the business but in my opinion they are some of the laziest strikers in World football.

Although Berbatov was also a lazy sod he is on a different level when it comes to technique and ability and Adebayor isn't in the same league as him.
 

JerryGarcia

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i think he has been the difference for us this season, i would prefer him upfront playing his normal game on a goal scoring drought than Defoe playing and scoring every week.

I was crying out for a clinical striker in the off season, Adebayor is not clinical but he brings out the best in the players around him

He is a big lad, how many times do you see us lump the long ball up to him to try and head down to VDV like we did with crouch? Not very often which says a lot when you think of his size, people always said it was not Crouchs fault we played long ball to him, it was the players for just seeing a tall guy and thinking long ball

Well with Ade we have a player who looks to receieve it at his feet, with the players surrounding him that is invaluable, eventhough he is not clinical we are not having problems scoring and i think its because of Ade being able to let players like Bale give and receive, the guy has a footballing brain and he might miss 5 sitters a game but i would prefer that then Defoe who maybe gets one chance and puts it away. If you missing 5 chances your getting into 5 good positions and the goals eventually come

If Adebayor leaves and we retain Modric and Bale in off season, we need an Ade type replacement, if modric and or bale or vdv leave then maybe someone who is a pure finisher and a different style can be adapted


Great post and let's not forget his passing is also brilliant. I've lost count of how many little through balls he's played to the rest of the team in the box. I have a feeling that a lot of people will only realise what they're missing when he's gone, much like Carrick.
 
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