Chelsea Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

[VoteMe4Prez]

How the hell was Caulker was allowed to leave but Dawson wasn't? It's madness with a capital M

 

[sparx100]

Please tell me what manager (even The Special One) has a "plan b" to respond to:

Your left back slipping on the wet turf giving the ball away
A dubious penalty being awarded leading to your center half being sent off
An idiot fullback heading the ball back to his keeper from almost the half way line.

"His tactics worked well in the first half" because the cluster fuck of incidents did not happen until the second half. Do you seriously think that we were going to do anything other than lose once Kabul was off the pitch? The Special One has gone 74 games unbeaten at home when they have faced (mostly) sides with eleven playing let alone ten.

Once you can convince me any manager has a "plan b" for those circumstances i will phone Levy myself and ask him to fire Sherwood and hire someone who has a "plan b" for those set of circumstances. Tim's after match interview was nothing about winning the game (which he said himself was lost with the Kabul incident) but about how some the players stopped playing for the shirt, the fans, their pride and their futures.

Do you think we showed any real intent on winning the game? It was all about nullifying the Chelsea threat. Hazard was as quiet as I can remember because Tim put two right backs on the same side. Walkers pace helped Naughton. They had nothing else until they changed formation. My point is that Tim did not change anything, Mourinho made a positive change at half time and the dynamics changed. Yes there were mistakes, but that was only because the players felt the pressure

We didn't create anything because we had no creative influence with the players available, however it was pretty clear that Oscar was going to come on and change the way the game panned out. There was only ever going to be one winner of this match regardless of whether we had eleven men or ten.

 

[whitesocks]

No its unfortunate that we pissed away the best part of £100M. We've hung around 4th or 5th punching slightly above our weight over the past few years, lost one of the best players in the world, but I thought, like many others, that the £100M spent properly would get us in the top 4. Hence a lot of peoples disappointment that we appear to have gone backwards , which finishing 6th well off the pace will mean.
So I say again who is going to be held to account for wasting the money?

Baldini was brought in to advise how to spend the cash, so the buck stops there really.
Lamela is definitely one of his and whatever we think of Soldado and Chadli at least they are attempting to turn their season around. I simply do not buy that lamela is injured.
Baldini needs to get our money back in the summer to resolve this, and if he fails, then he should be held to account.

 

[Mighty Spurs]

Sherwood was correct in saying that some players lacked character not the first time. Rumour has it that Vertonghen will leave if we do not qualify for CL, well Mr Vertonghen, your error gifted them their first goal. Second goal was never a penalty or red card. Oliver got it Completely wrong. We played well first half a we had most possession, but after their illegal goal we crumbled and we all know the outcome. The only slight criticism I had of the starting eleven was Bentaleb, not experienced enough to face the top four.

 

[Gib14]

In my opinion we need a clean up. There is something known as a clean up guy - usually brought in when a company or org have shit logistics and no economic control. Now this isn't a problem, but the entire footballing side of things is a shambles. I think LVG could be the cleaner. Personally I dont want tim or any other talented manager to take over - what we need is a cleaner who knows what he is doing, a manager who is given real authority to create a footballing platform Tim or whoever can star from. ATM it's just too convoluted.

You know the wolf man from the movie pulp fiction. He's your guy

 

[scottlag10]

Baldini was brought in to advise how to spend the cash, so the buck stops there really.
Lamela is definitely one of his and whatever we think of Soldado and Chadli at least they are attempting to turn their season around. I simply do not buy that lamela is injured.
Baldini needs to get our money back in the summer to resolve this, and if he fails, then he should be held to account.

And the Chairman who brought back the position of Director of Football at the club gets away with yet another mistake?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

We will never like, but have got used to the fact that our best players over recent seasons have left for pastures new, higher wages, CL football etc. But what happened this summer has turned out to be the equivalent of selling your rolls Royce and replacing it with seven ford escorts. For not one of those signings to turn out to have a successful season is just typical Spurs.

The Ford Escort earned ten second place WC Rally places and two first place finishes. Driven by recognised World Class drivers.

Spurs have been driven by a learner and a driver who did not understand whether the vehicle was left or right hand drive. So he drove it mind boringly down the middle of road.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Do you think we showed any real intent on winning the game? It was all about nullifying the Chelsea threat. Hazard was as quiet as I can remember because Tim put two right backs on the same side. Walkers pace helped Naughton. They had nothing else until they changed formation. My point is that Tim did not change anything, Mourinho made a positive change at half time and the dynamics changed. Yes there were mistakes, but that was only because the players felt the pressure

We didn't create anything because we had no creative influence with the players available, however it was pretty clear that Oscar was going to come on and change the way the game panned out. There was only ever going to be one winner of this match regardless of whether we had eleven men or ten.

Just who would you have brought on to "change" the game, oh and in case you didn't know Chel$ea had more invested on their bench than the total we brought in the Summer. That's why The Special One can change the game if needed. We had Chadli, Townsend, Kane, and Soldado, pray tell how you'd change our "dynamics" with that lot to choose from?

 

[scissor_gang]

You couldn't see the anger?

He was seething but i don't think shouting and swearing at the interviewer would have been the right approach.

Hats off to Sherwood for throwing down the gauntlet to the quitters in the team, i think we have at least one in the club who gives a fuck, trouble is there might not be too many more.

I watched the interview after reading about it w/ headlines like "Sherwood fury..." so I thought I was going to see more emotion from him. His demeanor just wasn't exactly what I expected from reading headlines like that. I certainly didn't expect swearing and yelling at the interviewer and I don't know who would think that is a good approach, so that is a bit of a straw man argument. I happen to agree with most of what he said but I see that some who don't described him as 'dejected' so I think that interpretation of his emotion or his demeanor is subjective and has been seen both ways. On a second viewing I would say he seemed disgusted.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Do you think we showed any real intent on winning the game? It was all about nullifying the Chelsea threat. Hazard was as quiet as I can remember because Tim put two right backs on the same side. Walkers pace helped Naughton. They had nothing else until they changed formation. My point is that Tim did not change anything, Mourinho made a positive change at half time and the dynamics changed. Yes there were mistakes, but that was only because the players felt the pressure

We didn't create anything because we had no creative influence with the players available, however it was pretty clear that Oscar was going to come on and change the way the game panned out. There was only ever going to be one winner of this match regardless of whether we had eleven men or ten.

We set up for the game relying on not making any mistakes and maybe nicking a goal. Now how many of us don't know we are no good at that? Our team plays better when we play higher tempo and go out to win.

 

[LiamJM10]

The Ford Escort earned ten second place WC Rally places and two first place finishes. Driven by recognised World Class drivers.

Spurs have been driven by a learner and a driver who did not understand whether the vehicle was left or right hand drive. So he drove it mind boringly down the middle of road.

We sold a Rolls, bought a Porsche then it's two owners failed to get into 4th gear.

(good analogies these)

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

We sold a Rolls, bought a Porsche then it's two owners failed to get into 4th gear.

(good analogies these)

Tim was purring about it. Looked all revved up if you ask me.

 

[Gassin's finest]

I put off looking in Spurs Chat until now for fear of some painful reading... seems like that was a good choice!

Anyhow, my two penneth is that with AVB's departure we saw the end of false dawn #49,726. With Saturday's game we saw a team so abject, so directionless and so without passion that I claim that to be the worst I have seen us play since the days of George Graham. Dreadful beyond dreadful. I'm sticking my oar into the water now and saying that Tim Sherwood has no business running this team, and I quite literally cannot wait for the end of this season so he can be replaced. This month will see some painful and quite hard moments for this team, and it's been a long time coming with us coasting by so far (under both Sherwood and AVB) purely by the fact that many of our players are actually very good, but have been hampered all season by first over-caution, and now a lack of any clear and consistent gameplan. There are also quite clearly a number of players who are either completely losing their appetite and/or patience for this shambles, and a few others that are simply not up to scratch.

It's such a huge shame that after such a positive summer of investment in quality players, and perceived faith in the current manager incumbent, we felt like we about to push to that next level that Harry didn't quite manage. But instead we are in a complete mess and on the verge of seeing a surprisingly positive season (fighting for 4th, EL) end in a damp squib of disappointment, which will lead to sycophantic twunts like Lawrenson smirk "well, it's spurs isn't it?", and requiring us to overhaul the team and management again in the summer.

Oh well... there's always next year...

 

[Mustard]

We sold a Rolls, bought a Porsche then it's two owners failed to get into 4th gear.

(good analogies these)

We sold Elvis and bought Busted.

 

[gushayes11]

Are we appealing Kabouls red?

 

[easley91]

We sold Elvis and bought McBusted.

Fixed.

 

[spursram]

I asked yesterday what was the reason Sandro was moved to CB after Daws went off? Why not Naughton to CB and Walker to RB? Anyone got an opinion?

 

[spursram]

Are we appealing Kabouls red?

According to the 3rd last para in this, yes we are:
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...iel-levy-after-chelsea-thrashing-9181507.html

 

[spud]

Kick it out of play?

In theory, I agree. In practice, if you have just slipped over and can just about reach the ball you kick it where you can. His instinct was to keep it away from the player next to him as to leave it would have given that player a clear run on goal. As I said, it was unfortunate where it ended up and what ultimately happened.

I don't blame a player for trying to clear danger. He was averting imminent danger by getting the ball away in the only way that, in his prone position, he was able. Anybody (and I'm not accusing you of this) who blames him for his action because he should have done something else is - to say the least - being harsh in their judgement.

 

[riggi]

Still gutted I didn't go tbh.