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rocklink

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is nasri , silva , iniesta , ribery are they number 10 ?? No they are not and eriksen also isn't ...
 

Blake Griffin

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Eriksen is not a number 10 ...he is perfect 433 type of attacking midfielder used as a left winger or left sided midfielder ......... Eriksen is not a number 10 and he should not play there ... And the most important part is he is our most creative player and the best crosser of the ball.. playing as number 10 , he just doesn't get enough chance to show his creative side and more variation of the passes he can make playing as left sided midfielder

http://theinsidechannel.com/2014/11/28/analysis/tactics/christian-eriksen-isnt-number-10/

blimey, some of that is word for word what i said a few posts above :D
 

DaSpurs

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transfermarkt lists him as playing in a cm three for that game, i think i may have even watched it considering i was on eriksen scouting duty around that time :p and i can't recall him ever starting at 10 in any of those games. his pl record of left vs central is

left:
apps - 19
goals - 9
assists - 7
win % - 63.2
ppg - 2.05

#10:
apps - 17
goals - 3
assists - 3
win % - 35.3
ppg - 1.29

maybe it's not a big enough sample size and maybe variance/luck plays a part but i always feel he and we do better when he plays from the left. him there and lennon right seems to be a winning combo for us.

Yeah, I certainly concede it's been more productive, but a significant amount of that has been with having two strikers for him to ping and soak up defenders' attention. And again, the defensive sacrifice cannot be ignored. He's just simply not quick or tenacious enough to help out a fullback in the Premier League.
 

Blake Griffin

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Yeah, I certainly concede it's been more productive, but a significant amount of that has been with having two strikers for him to ping and soak up defenders' attention. And again, the defensive sacrifice cannot be ignored. He's just simply not quick or tenacious enough to help out a fullback in the Premier League.

well we're averaging over two points per game with him there so the defensive sacrifice doesn't seem to be hurting us much. i'm not convinced chadli is any better going back either.
 

DaSpurs

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Eriksen is not a number 10 ...he is perfect 433 type of attacking midfielder used as a left winger or left sided midfielder ......... Eriksen is not a number 10 and he should not play there ... And the most important part is he is our most creative player and the best crosser of the ball.. playing as number 10 , he just doesn't get enough chance to show his creative side and more variation of the passes he can make playing as left sided midfielder

http://theinsidechannel.com/2014/11/28/analysis/tactics/christian-eriksen-isnt-number-10/

If the whole point here is discerning the differences between a classic No 10 and a central attacking midfielder, then I think we'd be wasting as our time, unless your point is you want a formational change. Personally I wouldn't be opposed to that either, I just think it's important he remain centrally to pull the strings.

Also, I think the Ajax comparison of him playing wide is difficult to make analogous to the Prem. Ajax was able to afford their attackers far more space and freedom from defensive responsibility, which is not the case in the Prem.
 

DaSpurs

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well we're averaging over two points per game with him there so the defensive sacrifice doesn't seem to be hurting us much. i'm not convinced chadli is any better going back either.

You also have to look at the difference in competition. Most of those games were last season in which we played the 4-4-2 with Eriksen left and Lennon right against weaker competition, and then Sherwood would shift back to a three man midfield for the tougher games (except for the Anfield debacle). So there are overlying circumstances padding those statistics.

We need more pace wide, and we need as much creativity as we can get centrally. I can understand advocating Eriksen to be played left given the current squad, but ideally with a few additions he should play in the position best suited to him pulling the strings.
 

rocklink

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If the whole point here is discerning the differences between a classic No 10 and a central attacking midfielder, then I think we'd be wasting as our time, unless your point is you want a formational change. Personally I wouldn't be opposed to that either, I just think it's important he remain centrally to pull the strings.

Also, I think the Ajax comparison of him playing wide is difficult to make analogous to the Prem. Ajax was able to afford their attackers far more space and freedom from defensive responsibility, which is not the case in the Prem.

still eriksen is producing his best performances for us when playing out wide ...
 

Derp

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He only played as a winger for Ajax when he was like 17-18 years old. They moved him inside when he became a regular. just like we did with Modric. He is without a doubt in my mind best central, because he get more touches on the ball and have more options. He is also way more effective defensively when playing in a central position. I think there are clear indications that he could do like Modric and move from out wide into a central position.

Eriksen is a hybrid between Modric and VdV and it makes sense that he would be best between those two positions.
 

sim0n

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no likee stats, Eriksen is THE creative force at Spurs now -- always in the starting 11 now to be sure (y)
 

eddiev14

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Really class player we have here in Eriksen. Makes us tick and we look infinitely better when he plays.

Think he'll finish the season with 15+ Premier League goals and 10+ assists.
 

CockFlavour

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Any stats about the boy's free kicks anywhere? I wouldn't be surprised if he scores on like 30 odd percent of his free kicks within a certain area outside the box..

It bloody feels like he always at least hits the goal.
 

idontgetit

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I'd like to see Christian in a midfield 3, like the OP from months ago (1st choice/second choice):
---------------------- Lloris -----------------------

Walker --- Fazio --- Vertonghen --- Davies

------------ Bentaleb/Stambouli --------------

--- Mason/Paulinho ---- Eriksen/Dembele ---

Lamela ------------ Kane ------------- Chadli

I think playing in the 10 role for him hasn't worked out great in the past - he needs a bit of freedom, and bit of help around him. He's only 22, yes he's very experienced but he's also very lightweight. I've noticed he's at his best when he's closely supported by other players he can play one-two's with and who can support him with the physical battle.

I think him, Mason and Bentaleb in a midfield three, with Mason and Eriksen getting forward and looking to create, whilst also working to drop back and help Bentaleb, could work well. Frankly you could also bring back Hotby and put him in either of the forward positions as perfect cover as well.

That would give the likes of Lamela and Chadli more freedom to actually attack, which is what we bought them for and what they're good at, rather than saddling them with too many defensive duties as we do now. Lamela in particular isn't a right midfielder as we keep playing him, he's a wide forward who should be in and around the opposition box, not defending on the edge of ours.

Personally I think this system would play to the strengths of the players we've got, as well as being an effective system in principle anyway. Which is why I blatantly post it in every thread :playful:

I wish this would happen. I'd be so happy
 

StockSpur

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Any stats about the boy's free kicks anywhere? I wouldn't be surprised if he scores on like 30 odd percent of his free kicks within a certain area outside the box..

It bloody feels like he always at least hits the goal.


Shame he also finds the first defender on probably 80% of his corners..
 

VegasII

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Bit frightening to think where we'd be without his goals since he joined.

He's certainly been excellent value for £11m.

Still not sure about the hair transplant though. Looks a bit :poop:
 

CockFlavour

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Blake Griffin

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Enough with this thing about us being particularly poor on corners. We do as bad as everyone else. In fact, 12 teams are poorer than us.
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2014/1...third-with-struggling-liverpool-joint-last/5/ (This was from Nov 3rd - I believe we even have scored 1 or two goals since that, latest with Kane against Swansea.)

yep. we're tied for 5th with palace, arsenal and southampton, all with three goals from corners. eight teams on two goals, three on one and swansea with none. west ham and qpr have five, west brom six, chelsea seven. so all in all we're about above average.
 
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