Club or Country?

[Wig]

I feel totally deflated this morning, a similar feeling as after the CL final two years ago. But with the pain of England last night so raw, I can't wait for the new league season to start so I can refocus my mind on a new chapter for Spurs. Would help if Spurs can quickly sign up a couple new players to help build that excitement of looking forward

 

[shelfboy68]

Very disappointing really wanted to see this country finally deliver at a tournament but again no.
I think I got over this quicker than many because being a spurs fan these levels of disappointment are commonplace.
The England team and spurs do have similarities in that they both have that occasional exciting moment, but in the end the same inevitable ending of nearly but not quite.
Time to move on and see how the team fares this season along with who the club brings in

 

[Cochise]

Still hurts today so id say its about the same. Felt this bad after the UCL final loss.

 

[alfie103]

Country over club for me. I would much prefer England win something than Tottenham.

 

[Atarrier]

Being a Spurs, England and Labour supporter means I get to perpetually taste gut wrenching defeat.... which is nice.

 

[Atarrier]

I have to say though, the past 2 years I was becoming increasingly apathetic to all things football. The unceremonious sacking of Poch, the Mourinho appointment. The subsequent turgid football that followed, the attempted furloughing of staff, then the Super Leage debacle and firing off Mourinho just before a cup final AND then the shambles of a manager hunt had me pretty close to giving football a break. I’d made the decision that if we hired Gattuso, I would have no interaction with football until he was gone.
So watching the England team, who seem to be sincerely nice people, led by a genuinely good person, has been really refreshing and has certainly restocked my passion for the game.
So for me, club or country don’t have to be separate.

 

[tototoner]

It doesn't happen often but going abroad to a major tournament with other Irish fans when we do qualify is some craic, been to Euro 2012 in Poland and Euro 2016 in France.

BUT.. I don't spend 3 hours+ a day on an Irish Supporters forum

 

[wizgell]

100% club for me (and even that's thinning at the moment)

Think the World Cup in 2006 was when I stopped caring about England, for too long it was all about the individuals in the team as opposed to the squad. That is one thing I have enjoyed about the Southgate era is the way he has ALMOST eradicated that feeling that the national squad is nothing more than a platform for boosting individuals marketability (Beckham, Rooney, Gerrard v Lampard etc).

My mates struggle to understand why I care so little about England and regularly give me stick if I comment on an England performance but I just don't feel anything for it. I bloody hate Spurs at the moment, but at least they still get my blood boiling. For too long I watched an England side be ALL about the likes of Terry and Lampard who I hate, meant I couldn't switch off my club allegiances for them.

We took the kids up to The Grove yesterday to see the team off (as its just up the road from me) and they loved it, and whilst I loved being a part of it with the kids I was looking around at the thousands who were there with their faces painted, flags and kit on and I just couldn't get into it. Fellow Watford residents screaming for Grealish, Foden, Sterling etc despite not supporting the clubs they play for- I just can't do it.

My mother in law was perplexed that I don't have an England shirt and I actually don't think I have bought one since '06 and even then I only got it because I got Lennon 19 on the back in the hope that was his breakthrough tournament.

I'd love to get as excited for England games as some of my mates and family do, but one thing I have noticed is probably bar one mate who travels the country with Colchester United, the rest are armchair club supporters and perhaps as a result haven't exposed themselves fully to the emotional turmoil club football provides and therefore have more energy to give to the national side?

 

[Metalhead]

Supporting Spurs is tribal but we've got fans from all over the world. The type of patriotism that is exhibited by the moronic element of England fans embarrasses the f*ck out of me.

 

[sundanceyid10]

Club and it’s not even a contest for me.

 

[Goobers]

If anything was to rouse the excitement in international football in me - it was this tournament. Wonderful festival of football. Fantastic. This England team, and I am an Irish fan, have almost put right what almost 20 years of everything that is wrong with modern football in this country all the wrongs of previous squads and regimes for England.
My daughters are 1/4 English and born in this country and, although very young, I would love to tell them how proud of this group of young men they should be. They entertained us, played with bravery, fight, desire and off the pitch are a wonderful example to all of us, not just young people. For many reasons. I thoroughly enjoyed cheering them on with my wife. It really has made me fall in love with International football again.
Having said that I love my Spurs and have done all my life. They are in my bones. I think that's the best way to explain my relationship with Tottenham Hotspur. It is not a choice and never will be.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

Club club club…….a million times over England.

I will be delighted if England win this but I will be over it very very quickly if they lose, but 2 years on I am still traumatised by that night in Madrid and I don’t think i will ever get over it

Isn't funny how things are. I never thought we'd win in Madrid and was pretty much over it straight away. Ajax always stands out for me and still enjoy that night. Now 1987 is a different matter I'm still not over that. Losing the league Cup final in 1982 still wrankles with me.

Pretty much over last night now.

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

Both for me, partly due to this current England team embodying my personal values so well. If it was a team full of players I don't care about I'd still support obviously - but would be nowhere near as emotionally invested as I am in the current team.

 

[Ray_Evans]

Club over country, all day long.

 

[SpringHeeledJim]

I think about Spurs (rightly or wrongly) every day of my life. I think about England for 4 weeks (max) once every two years

 

[topper]

I have to say though, the past 2 years I was becoming increasingly apathetic to all things football. The unceremonious sacking of Poch, the Mourinho appointment. The subsequent turgid football that followed, the attempted furloughing of staff, then the Super Leage debacle and firing off Mourinho just before a cup final AND then the shambles of a manager hunt had me pretty close to giving football a break. I’d made the decision that if we hired Gattuso, I would have no interaction with football until he was gone.
So watching the England team, who seem to be sincerely nice people, led by a genuinely good person, has been really refreshing and has certainly restocked my passion for the game.
So for me, club or country don’t have to be separate.

This for me - but it helps when there are Spurs players in the England side!

 

[Spurs_1981]

Both for me but with one huge caveat. When England fail to qualify or inevitibly go home I will typically put my support behind one of the teams with Spurs players in it, I would never support another English club team just because it had England players in it.

 

[Roy1983]

Not to say international football means nothing to me but Tottenham is my life and I dont get the same buzz that I do with THFC.

 

[ohtottenham!]

Isn't funny how things are. I never thought we'd win in Madrid and was pretty much over it straight away. Ajax always stands out for me and still enjoy that night. Now 1987 is a different matter I'm still not over that. Losing the league Cup final in 1982 still wrankles with me.

Pretty much over last night now.

Wembley was like our second home in 1982. I went to all four of those games - League Cup final, FA Cup final and replay and the Charity Shield game where we lost again to Liverpool. There was some bad blood in that last game. Happened right in front of us. Hoddle flying into tackle Souness. Souness stamping on him. Crooks then losing it and giving Souness a smack and putting his head in his face. Souness didn't want any part of Crooks. All three would have been sent off in the modern game.

 

[isaac94]

Would have a carabao cup over a Euros, not that I don't love these tournaments, just my love for Spurs is so much deeper. When watching England you see so many armchair supporters, people having an excuse to be a thug, kind of takes the shine off it, as well as various other low points from England supporters doesn't make me feel an identity with the national team. Not that spurs don't have some idiot fans (we do!), but some of the Neanderthals that follow England are a different breed, that and so many reasons is why the world wanted Italy.