Neymar is a bit of a twat but still one of the world's best players. If he's happy to "drop down" to Ligue 1 then I doubt any of our players would turn their nose up, particularly for a huge salary and guaranteed medals.
Only by lazy journos? Can’t see any jumping ship. I don’t think Dele is mature enough to make it abroad.
Mate, I'm not writing a dissertation, I'm writing a casual opinion on a football forum.
I remember the runners up, a lot of people do.
Success can be measured by winning things, but if Jose wins the league cup but we end up 10th I don't think he'd be in a job. Similarly, most people would not say that George Graham and Juande Ramos were our most successful managers in recent years. Yes we didn't win something, that is something the squad should feel bad about.
We had a better team then Leicester, so did half the league. You can talk about it as if we should have won, but we shouldn't have. We came from a 5th position and a 6th position, we weren't even expected to finish in the Champions League places that season, yet alone win it. On top of that, Leicester kept on winning, it was hardly like we threw that away. The finishing 3rd in a two horse race was inexcusable.
We were not a better team than Chelsea, not significantly anyway. That Conte team had a lot of very good players. Kante, the best player in the league, Eden Hazard on form, Diego Costa, on form, and they didn't have any European football to contend with. That was also largely already a premier league winning team, as they'd won it literally two season before with largely the same squad. They won the league with 93 points the 6th highest Premier league point total of all time. This wasn't an average team.
The Leicester season we started slowly, and that cost us, but we started as expected, not as unexpected. The second season we were better and with 86 points, well, that's a very good total (I think our highest ever) and maybe a few of the early draws might have made it close, but after Chelsea posting a 13 game winning streak, closing that gap was always a big ask. I think the assumption that was a weak Chelsea is a strange one tbh.
Winning a cup doesn't make you a better manager, and has little in the way of securing your job, managers know this btw. Winning a cup can happen to any team with the right run, league form tells you more about the ability of a squad. I would love to win something, and I believe under Jose we will. I also hope Jose is a billion times more successful than Poch, it's not really relevant to what I was saying. And this is what I mean, I'm not partisan one side or another I support the team.
I didn't say we were a league 1 team, we were a europa league team, that became a champions league team. Now it might not seem a big distance, but it's the first time we've been a champions league qualifying team in my life, so it was a massive step up in my experience of supporting tottenham, living abroad, it was also nice to have regular people know who the hell tottenham are, because before that we were about as well known as Lazio are to premier league fans. I don't think anyone has ever done what Ranieri did at any club.
I can understand this idea of overachieving and underachieving, I just don't agree with it. I think all the baselines of expectations he surpassed them. The one bitter thing is him not winning something here, and that was his failing. But I don't think he underachieved at all considering the tools he had in his disposal. I don't even think the squad he inherited was that good, and no one really thought it was at the time. A lot of fans who look at those years in a bitter way sort of apply where the club is now, to where it was then and assume that getting a to b is an instant process, as well as just forgetting what the mood was at the time, no one was saying wtf how did we not win the title against Chelsea. Or even Leicester for that matter, because no one saw it as possible.
You can say that Poch left us at the right time. But financially we were the 6th biggest club (not even close to top 5 btw) and in terms of transfers even lower than that. The only way he might have underachieved, apart from not winning things (which were expectations caused by overachieving) is if you think the squad was the best in the land, and probably for about a year it was, the problem is that year also happened to be a calendar one!
Just to give you a sense of what I mean. Like season review of 15/16.
Season Review 2015/16
Best Player - Harry Kane Most improved player - Dele Alli Player who needs to pull his socks up - Kyle Walker. Defending is great but in the final 3rd he is pretty shocking IMO. Didn't want to go for a squad player as they could all improve. Walker IMO is the place where we could get an...www.spurscommunity.co.uk
Expectations of the 15/16 Season
Realistic hopes for next season
So our season is coming to a close and chances are we'll end up in the top 6 and runners up in the league cup. Results wise many would have been happy with that at the beginning of the season. But there is some disillusion among fans as our form has gone downhill at the end of the season when...
I think it'd suit him. It really doesn't take that much maturity to make it abroad. The main thing people struggle with is homesickness and not being able to adapt to cultures. I think those aren't problems Dele really has.
We beat Fiorentina 4-1, and it was one of the best nights at the Lane.
